Charger Inverter


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Mine is also an inverter/charger, Francisco.  I don't know if it was a factory installation, or if the previous owners put it in.  I leave it off except when I am using it...Charging with the generator, or inverting 24vDC-220vAC to use small appliances or microwave.  When on shore power, I can use it as well, but prefer to use my auxillary 60v 220-24v charger from Charles (93-IMC60-A).  It has 4 outputs which can be individually programmed.  I use one output to keep the 24V houseband charged, and one to keep the 12V starting battery charged.  Prior to adding the Charles IMC, I had no way to charge the starting battery except the alternators on the Yanmar and on the Onan.  When on shore power for long periods, there was nothing keeping the start battery charged.  I do occasionally run the Charles with the generator, and the Freedom with shore power, just to make sure they all work and I have a back up in case one of them fails.
KRISTY is also set up to receive 110v shore power.  It goes through a 110v-220v converter, then to the normal 220 circuitry.  When on 60Hz shore power (110 or 220v) my boat (and all Amels, I think) doesn't convert the frequency of AC power to 50 Hz.  I don't use the dishwasher, washer/dryer, microwave, or coffee pot when on 60Hz shore power.  I do run the A/C, however.  Some people say that might wear out the A/C a bit faster, but after 13 years of occasional 60Hz A/C use, I have had to replace only the water pump and one capacitor.  I haven't figured out any other way to run the A/C's when at the dock, except to run the generator which produces 50Hz power.  If I'm on 60 Hz shore power and need to use the microwave briefly, I turn off the main 220 breaker in the cabinet above the sink and use the inverter to produce 50Hz 220 AC from the house baatteries.  If I want to use the microwave for a prolonged period or the washer/dryer, I disconnect
from shore power and run the generator.
I also added an AC monitor a couple of years ago which tells me what the power coming into the boat is like...Voltage, Amperage used, and Frequency.  It's a good way to confirm what you are getting from the dock and that the generator is doing what it's supposed to, as well as monitoring amperage used.  There is an automatic switch that chooses generator over shore power when you are hooked up to shore power and turn on the generator.  The AC monitor shows that it still works as advertised, but I usually disconnect from shore power anyway when running the generator.
Hope this helps.
1999 SM 243
Currently Brunswick, GA, USA

From: svperegrinus <>
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Service on East Coast of US


Hello Kent, Thanks for your comment. Do you know if the Freedom was installed by Amel, or is it an after-market installation? Do you turn it on just for specific use or do you tend to leave it powered? On the Xantrex website, I cannot seem to find a Freedom that is an inverter only. It appears the current versions of the product are all inverter/chargers. Is this how yours is set up? Bill from s/v BeBe has most kindly explained to us his factory install. His Statpower PROsine (now Xantrex PROsine) is inverter-only, no battery charger feature included. Best, --- In, karkauai@... wrote: > > Hi Francisco abd Odette. I own SM 243 which has a Freedom 80A Charger/Inverter that provides 220v to microwave and receptacles from 24v battery bank. Also has an equalize feature to keep batteries from over-sulfating. Nice system. > Kent > SM 243 > Kristy > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Alltel > >
-----Original Message----- > From: svperegrinus <> > Sender: > Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:29:25 > To: <> > Reply-To: > Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Service on East Coast of US > > > Hello Bill, > > We have some 230v audio equipment for which the manufacturer makes no version other than 230v and 110v. We would therefore like to have 230v available throughout the boat at all times (subject to flipping a switch or two, of course), without necessarily having to turn on the generator or plugging into shore power. > > I will reach out to you to you via your e-mail to see what the "factory original" 230v inverter installation option looks like. I'd like to have it duplicated on our boat. > > Thanks in advance, > > Francisco + Odette > sv Peregrinus > SM2K #350 (Nov. 2001) > Miami > > > > --- In, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@> wrote: > > > > Richard, Duncan, et al, > > > > I am not sold on the 110v conversion. You should check the number of the places in the world that provide 110v 60htz. You will find that the US and a few other places are the only places that have this voltage, while the rest of the world is 230v 50htz. Rather than doing this 110v 60htz inverter, think seriously about adding a 24 to 230v 50htz inverter assuming that you do not already have an Amel-installed 230v 50htz inverter. Then when in St. Martin, Martinique and many other Caribbean islands buy all of the 230v appliances that you need. Also, you will find that almost all of your electronic gear will accept 110 - 240 volts AC 50-60 hertz...all you need to use these is a plug adapter. > > > > If you follow the above suggestion, your Amel will be equipped for worldwide cruising. Also, remember, if worldwide
cruising is not in your plans, it will likely be in the plans of a significant number of people who may want to buy your Amel when you are ready to sell her. Be careful not to do something now that you will regret then. > > > > Amel wires the inverter in a separate circuit outside of the AC panel, with no connection between the inverter and the panel. The inverter does not go through the same breakers...there are a number of benefits with this...if you do not know, ask an experienced marine electrician. If you want to know more about the wiring scheme and location of the 230v receptacles done by Amel on a Super Maramu, write me at bill"at" > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Bill > > BeBe, SM2k, #387 > > Currently N. Cyprus > > > > --- In, Richard03801 <richard03801@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Duncan we removed the entire Amel charging system and installed a 100 dolphin smart charger. You can get
them from Budget the in Jolly Harbor or shipped in from the imported in Florida or from Defender in Ct. We then installer a 24 to 110 inverter hard wired to a breaker panel from it we ran 110 (600 volt wire) to ground fault plugs all over the boat using the standard Amel wireways. We can now plug in to most any dock in the world and charge the batteries. Then use your USA stuff at will. Your 220 stuff will generally work so long as there are no timers like the washers and dryer they tend to dislike 60 cycle. Give me a call if you have questions. The above system has work without issue on both my AMELs and a few I've worked on. Smart chargers are the way to go in today's world. > > > > > > Regards SM 209 in Annapolis for sale > > > > > > Richard Piller > > > > > > Cell 603 767 5330 > > > > > > On Nov 10, 2011, at 13:20, Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@> wrote: > > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > > > You suggested that I convert my electrical system
to a broad range (?80-280?) charger. The boat is in the process of being checked by an electrical service company in Antigua and this would be a good time to address the issue. Can you suggest a manufacturer, etc.? > > > > > > > > Duncan > > > > On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Richard Piller wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi Kent, Epic Yachting has also been in contact with Amel to provide service for the boats. They have a deep water marina in Gloucester, VA that is fully capable of Amel service. It is a very short run from Norfolk to Severn River Marine Service. There is also Amel service available at their docks in Annapolis and in Newport RI from May to November. They are a mast cap to keel stem to stern service firm. > > > >> Richard SM 209 in Annapolis For Sale > > > >> > > > >> ________________________________ > > > >> From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@> > > > >> To: ""
<> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:11 PM > > > >> Subject: [Amel] Amel Service on East Coast of US > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I was sad to hear of Ray's passing, he was a real peach of a guy. He worked on Kristy right after I bought her and sailed across the Gulf from Galveston to Key West and Ft. Lauderdale. > > > >> > > > >> I had a lot of quality work done on KRISTY over the last few years at Deltaville Marina on the Chesapeake. Keith, the owner, said he'd worked on several Amels in the past and is enthralled with the way they are built and their systems are laid out. He contacted Amel to see about becoming an Amel service center but got no reply. We need somewhere like that where we can get Amel-specific help on the Eastern Seaboard. I'd like to start a campaign to ask Amel to find a good yard and get them trained to work on our boats. I'd recommend Deltaville Boatyard but any good yard
would be better than having to go to Martinique or deal with folks who just don't get the Amel systems. > > > >> > > > >> Any thoughts? > > > >> Kent > > > >> SM243 > > > >> Kristy > > > >> > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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