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OK, one more piece of information. We have an American regulator. We have
bought Liquified Petroleum Gas (LPG) from the Caribbean westbound to Greece
visiting a total of 50 countries. Some of the places we have bought LPG
gave us unidentified LPG, and some were butane, some were propane and some
were GAZ.

We did not change the regulator for any of these. The only (small) problem
we had is that some of the LPG did not burn as hot as others which caused
our oven to NOT get as HOT as we wanted it.

I cannot attest to safety, etc., but I can tell you it works. So far
everywhere we have been we have been able to fill aluminum American 10# and
20# tanks, except for Greece. In Greece I bought a EU type GAZ container
and made up a hose connector from the EU tank to the American aluminum
tank...turned the EU tank upside down and in 4 hours I emptied the EU tank
into the American tank. I have seen adapters for sale on Defender that do
this, but I had enough parts to make one. The EU tank, unlike the American
tank, will feed/flow upside down. BTW, someone (an "expert") saw what I was
doing and said, "that will never work." It worked.

Sometimes, in some countries, you have to deal with what you have and they
have.

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387


--- In amelyachtowners@..., Lior <lior246@...> wrote:

joel,
thanks a lot for the information.
actually how can i know what gas was really inside the bottle? on the

bottle it is written propane and the regulator that installed now is 30
mbar. do you know what regulator pressure is needed for what gas?

thanks
lior


×`-24 ×`× ×¤×¨ 2013, ×`שע×" 20:28, "Joel F Potter" <jfpottercys@...>

כת×`/×":

In Europe and many other parts of the world, butane is the fuel of

choice

and easier to obtain. When boats arrive in the USA and I am preparing

them

for resale, I often have converted them to use propane instead of

butane

which is nearly impossible to find here. On the Eno stoves and on
domestically produced replacements I have installed, you need not

rejet the

stove or make any other changes to the stove itself. The stove ops

manual

used to suggest closing up the igniter distance from the burner but I

found

this was not needed. Propane and butane, while very similar, vaporize

from

liquid to gas at different pressures so, absolutely for sure, you must
change the pressure regulator when switching between the two fuels.

That's

all. Most cruisers carry both regulators after visiting North America

and

switch as need demands.

All the best,

Joel

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: jfpottercys@...

www.yachtworld.com/jfpottercys

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Dave_Benjamin
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:52 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: propane/butan

Why butane instead of propane?
Seems like you would need to alter size of jets in similar fashion to
converting from LPG to CNG. Best to consult with ENO or whatever

company

manufactured stove.

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Lior <lior246@> wrote:

hi everybody

does anyone know if it is possible to use butan and propane on amel

54 nr

18.

i am not on the boat now and i also do not have the manuel of the

oven.

i had until now propane with regulator of 30 mb. do i need other

presure

for butan?

thanks for your help.

lior