Ann-Sophie and Jonas,
When you bought my SM you have probably found on board (in the plastic drawer cabinet located, then, in the large cockpit locker) a brass fitting with two different threaded ends. You may have been baffled by this piece of gear and thrown it overboard. Actually I had it made to screw your original French gas regulator onto just about any other type of gas bottle. If you still have it on board keep it, it may prove useful someday and save you the hassle of emptying one bottle into another.
Hope you’re still enjoying your/my boat (say hello to her!).
formerly SM 232
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ann-Sofie Svanberg
Sent: jeudi 25 avril 2013 07:25
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: propane/butan
In Sweden we only use Propane or a mix of Propane and Butane due to the outside temperature. Propane is better when it is cold outside.
Sailing in the Med fnow for three years, we have not changed any regulators when the gas changed to Butane.
I can confirm what Bill wrote, the only thing I notice it on is the heat, especially when the bottles are almost empty.
So my advice, do nothing. It will work anyhow.
S/Y Lady Annila
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25 apr 2013 kl. 02:57 skrev "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@... <mailto:yahoogroups%40svbebe.com> >:
OK, one more piece of information. We have an American regulator. We have bought Liquified Petroleum Gas (LPG) from the Caribbean westbound to Greece visiting a total of 50 countries. Some of the places we have bought LPG gave us unidentified LPG, and some were butane, some were propane and some were GAZ.
We did not change the regulator for any of these. The only (small) problem we had is that some of the LPG did not burn as hot as others which caused our oven to NOT get as HOT as we wanted it.
I cannot attest to safety, etc., but I can tell you it works. So far everywhere we have been we have been able to fill aluminum American 10# and 20# tanks, except for Greece. In Greece I bought a EU type GAZ container and made up a hose connector from the EU tank to the American aluminum tank...turned the EU tank upside down and in 4 hours I emptied the EU tank into the American tank. I have seen adapters for sale on Defender that do this, but I had enough parts to make one. The EU tank, unlike the American tank, will feed/flow upside down. BTW, someone (an "expert") saw what I was doing and said, "that will never work." It worked.
Sometimes, in some countries, you have to deal with what you have and they have.
Hope this helps.
BeBe, SM2k, #387
--- In <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> amelyachtowners@..., Lior < <mailto:lior246@...> lior246@...> wrote:
thanks a lot for the information.
actually how can i know what gas was really inside the bottle? on the bottle it is written propane and the regulator that installed now is 30 mbar. do you know what regulator pressure is needed for what gas?
×`-24 ×`××¤×¨ 2013, ×`×©×¢×" 20:28, "Joel F Potter" < <mailto:jfpottercys@...> jfpottercys@...> ×›×ª×`/×":
In Europe and many other parts of the world, butane is the fuel of choice
and easier to obtain. When boats arrive in the USA and I am preparing them
for resale, I often have converted them to use propane instead of butane
which is nearly impossible to find here. On the Eno stoves and on
domestically produced replacements I have installed, you need not rejet the
stove or make any other changes to the stove itself. The stove ops manual
used to suggest closing up the igniter distance from the burner but I found
this was not needed. Propane and butane, while very similar, vaporize from
liquid to gas at different pressures so, absolutely for sure, you must
change the pressure regulator when switching between the two fuels. That's
all. Most cruisers carry both regulators after visiting North America and
switch as need demands.
All the best,
Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485
From: <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> amelyachtowners@...
[mailto: <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Dave_Benjamin
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:52 PM
To: <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: propane/butan
Why butane instead of propane?
Seems like you would need to alter size of jets in similar fashion to
converting from LPG to CNG. Best to consult with ENO or whatever company
--- In <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> amelyachtowners@...
< <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Lior <lior246@> wrote:
does anyone know if it is possible to use butan and propane on amel 54 nr
i am not on the boat now and i also do not have the manuel of the oven.for butan?
i had until now propane with regulator of 30 mb. do i need other presure
thanks for your help.
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