Re: [Amel] Autoprop recall --prop numbers
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Hello Eric,
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I ask the diver to let me know the number, he couldn't find it. BUT, that now you tell me what to look for, so I see on the previous owner's note and finf my number is: AP3281 (Left Hand turn) - AND it has been recall and rebuilt in December 2002!!! Thanks so much for this little piece of information that answer a large question!!! Now I can order the rebuilt kits from the place Bill mentionned and so on!!! Also from "islandbwoy4434" (Dena and ?) it definitely confirms Kent's (SM #243) information. Thank you so much every one on the forum! Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Wed, 8/21/13, Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel] Autoprop recall --prop numbers To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 3:55 PM Alexandre, I also have a h6 prop it is number 5164. If your prop is between number ap2902 and ap5299, it should have been recalled and rebuilt for free by autoprop. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:15 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel] prop rebuild,.. Hello Eric, I tested all the Air conditionning Capacitor (and changed some) a few months ago, so am familiar with this process. I just check the bill from Amel (last November), they greased the prop. I am sure if they had seen it needed new bearing they would have mentionned something... Which prop do you have? I have the Auto Prop H6. Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/21/13, Sailorman <kimberlite@... <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote: Subject: [Amel] prop rebuild,.. To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 2:42 PM The prop rebuild is a time consuming project and is best done on a workbench with a vise. I bought the parts from AB marine for about $900- they rented me the tools (cost $350- for 50 dollars-upon return of the tools) I think it will take one person a day plus to do it. The hardest part is to remove the ball bearing race as it is held in by grease and the tolerances are very tight. It takes a lot of time and solvent to remove them. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:44 AM To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Turbo desapointment... Good morning Gary, If the Marina was cleaner, I would dive myself, but it is so dirty... Not much clean water in "Clear Lake", but I think I should make an effort and dive far in the bay. The propeler was lubed last November. I don't know about the last time the bearing or blade seals were changed. I was planning on disassembling it in Nov before my trip, may be I should do it before. I recently changed both Engine fuel filter and (single) Racor fuel filter. I don't think, but don't know if I have restriction. I will check the valve. I don't have suction gauge, any recommendation? Manufacturer? I am not familiar with that... Are they permanently mount? Thanks for the compliment in cleaning the turbo... I wish I could brag about 2800 rpm!!! I will looked at the "Mouse Milk" you mentionned! Thanks again for your email, let me know about these suction gauge... Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/21/13, amelliahona <no_reply@... <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Subject: [Amel] Re: Turbo desapointment... To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 3:10 AM Alexander: A couple of thoughts: Find some clear water, dive on your prop and visually and tactilely verify for yourself that the prop is bristol clean!. I hired a diver once to clean mine due to the nasty water in the marina, and after he said it was clean, I subsequently inspected it myself and found it was anything but clean. I find that even minimal incrustation on the prop takes me at least 30 minutes of scuba/snuba time to clean properly. Heavier growth can easily consume an hour. Use a putty knife and some 3M scotch bright or equivalent to get it completely smooth, including the hub area. While you are down there verify that your prop bearings are good. This requires a bit of a fine touch. Just slowly rotate each blade, one at a time, manually and see if there is any binding, gritty feeling, or roughness as they rotate around. This obviously is easier done when hauled out but can be done underwater. What you are looking (feeling) for is any sign that the bearings in the blades are gone. They should be silky smooth as they rotate and should certainly move freely. On that note, when was the last time the prop was lubed, when was the last time the bearings were changed, and when was the last time the blade seals where changed? A prop blade with bad bearings can give strange vibrations while powering. I do not allow any pressure washing of my prop when hauled as the high pressure can easily blow past the blade lip seals and water contaminate the bearings. When you lube your prop if you have water exit the vent hole then you should consider disassembling the prop for bearing inspection. Are you absolutely certain that you don't have a fuel filter (there are two) restriction or fuel line restriction such as a bad fuel tank shut off valve? Verify that the fuel tank shut off valve is properly rigged and fully open. Have you put a suction gauge on your fuel filter to see if the filter is restrictive to flow? Just a couple of cheap and easy things to check. Good work on cleaning and verifying the turbo spun freely. There is a product called Mouse Milk (that you can get from AircraftSpruce.com) that we use on the waste gate actuators on aircraft engines to keep them limber. Cheap and easy. Sincerely, Gary Silver This evaluation won't cost you much in time or money and --- In amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Alex" <uster@...> wrote: > > Last week, cleant exhaust elbow, heat exchanger and turbo, I was able to make it spin using a compressed air bottle. http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22_turbo.html > > Had a diver scrubbing the prop, said it felt good. > > At the dock reach 2500 rpm (did not try higher). > > Saturday in the bay, could not exceed 2200 rpm... Very desapointed. > I could feel some vibrations or wabbling. Any idea? > Could that be the prop not unfolding totally? > > > Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre > SM2K #289 NIKIMAT > Seabrook, Texas, USA > _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . SPAMfighter has removed 1893 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? <http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen> Try a free scan! 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