Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance - single handed


Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

All,

From what I have seen over the years, I have to assume that one Pantaenius region or office has little to do with another region or office. I imagine it is possible to be very satisfied with one regional office, then have an issue with another.

I also believe that insurance discussions should include regions. As an example, we had "Jackline" insurance written in the US by Al Golden. The policy looked good to us when we bought it, but It seemed that every new part of the world we visited required that we pay some sort of surcharge that was never discussed in the beginning, even though Mr. Golden knew our situation. 

After 4 years and while we were in New Zealand, we had a chance to buy a Pantaenius policy from a local agent. It was a good policy and about 1/3rd less than what we had been paying Al Golden. A year later when we were to renew, they informed us that they would not insure us at all in a major portion of the Indian Ocean. We had to change again and to do it we had to get a new survey because our survey was over 5 years old.

This is when we met Françoise GODINEAU assurances-delassee.com>. The policy is very good and even covers repatriation if you become very ill. The policy states that they will ship you repair parts at your next port if something fails while at sea. There are many other details that are beneficial like the absence of a hurricane box. In their "Europe" zone, we pay about half of what insurance written in the US would cost us. The downside to us as Americans is that they will not insure us in US waters and they will not insure a boat with a homeport in US waters. Our homeport is St. Thomas and we are US Documented with a US address on the Documentation.

If you are not in US waters, or plan to leave US waters and you do not have a US homeport (which you can change if you do), I would write and ask for a quote like BeBe has and a sample of the policy in your language. I know they have English.

I hope this helps and clears a few things up.

Bill
BeBe 387


On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
 

Veit,

 

Here you go: Scott Stusek (Pantaenius) <SStusek(at)pantaenius(dot)com

 

I believe Scott is in Baltimore. Scott did the policy on Cream Puff

 

Best regards,

 

Mark

 

SM2K #275

www.creampuff.us

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Veit Mueller
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:33 PM


To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance - single handed

 

 

Hello Pat: can you please send me info on the local brocker? We live in Baltimore.

Cheers,

Veit

ATMAN SM215

Sent from my vm iPad


On May 7, 2014, at 2:19 PM, sailw32@... wrote:

 

I just got a quote from the local Pantentaenius broker , summers on the Chesapeake,  Nov.- April in the Caribbean , for $ 3070. for $280,000 face value. Summer season covers area from Jacksonville to Newfoundland and out to east of Bermuda. No deductible for lighting strikes, etc. I will be sending in my application this week unless someone knows something I don't. 

                                                                                                  Pat

                                                                                             SM Shenanigans

 

In a message dated 5/7/2014 3:54:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mcerdos@... writes:

 

I disagree with the Pantaenius statement below.

I have been with Pantaenius and maintain Cream Puff inside the hurricane zone. Florida can be a very difficult place to obtain good boat insurance at a reasonable price and Pantaenius meets the mark. They are priced in the market at slightly above average, the customer service is exceptional and they offer fixed value coverage (no depreciation factor as a vessel ages) all around the globe.

Unless someone has a factual claim to support a negative review on a company, please refrain from broad trash statements.

Best regards,

Mark

SM2K #275

www.creampuff.us

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Rainer Huthmacher
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 1:32 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance - single handed

 

Don't go to Pantaenius insurance!! I was with them 4 years and are now with Bavaria.... Basically the same but a lot cheaper...

Good luck

Rainer Huthmacher

SM#69 Yin Yang

Currently in Almerimar



On 07.05.2014, at 18:04, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Bill - I had a feeling that the weather was not being too kind. We have a wedding for our daughter this weekend then we will be out moving in your footsteps from Gocek to Corfu via the Corinth canal.

Best of luck

Peter

Peter Forbes

Carango Sailing Ketch

On 7 May 2014, at 16:54, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:




Peter,

The Agean has been lively for a week and will continue through this week...3 meter seas and 20-35kts. We are in Naxos until things calm down. We are going to take a ferry to Santorini and stay overnight in a hotel on Saturday when the weather has calmed. In 2011 we took BeBe to Santorini and anchored in the caldera...amazing.

We have had insurance with Assurances Maritimes de Lassée in France for about 4 years. We have no complaints...but, of course, we have not had a claim. Others in the Amel Group have recommended them.

Bill

BeBe 387

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

Bill,

Thank you I will give it a go.

How are you getting on in Greece?

Peter

Peter Forbes

Carango Sailing Ketch

On 7 May 2014, at 16:36, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:




Peter,

Contact: 

Françoise GODINEAU assurances-delassee.com>

Assurances Maritimes de Lassée in France

Tel : 05 46 45 46 45

Fax : 05 46 44 11 26

Tell her that you want a quote on a policy like BeBe has. Also get her to email you a quote and a copy of their policy in English. They specialize in Amels.

I think you will be happy with the policy and quote.

Bill

BeBe 387

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

Can anyone advise me of a reputable insurance company prepared to insure for single handed sailing on an Amel 54?

Thank you in advance.

Peter Forbes
ppsforbes@...
Carango Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Gocek Turkey


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