Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fore and aft loading a SM


Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Richard, thanks for this. You and Eric must have misunderstood me. When Alexandre mentioned trimming the bow down and that he was concerned that this put the bow thruster too low to the water I responded that the seals were what mattered as in a seaway the thruster was often well underwater. I have had good life from my seals changing them on the bi annual haul out and occasionally the lip seal between if I see any seepage. I agree with your suggestions. I am concerned that some think that leakage is to be expected and have water alarms or extra bilge pumps. If the boat is at anchor or on a mooring for long periods the bobbing up and down in a chop would be enough to cause water entry if the seals were not effective.
regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
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On Mon, 8/9/14, Richard03801 richard03801@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fore and aft loading a SM
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Monday, 8 September, 2014, 4:09 AM


 









Hi Danny. We have gotten good life out of
are bow thruster seals by one bring up the drive and PINNING
it every time as soon as we care the dock or
mooring. Two we used a water proof grease on the
housing surface and outer shaft/tube before before we
reinstalled the thruster. Then lightly greased the tube once
installed. This did two things one allowed the tube to slip
freely passed the lip seal as well as to form a sealing
assist to the entire system. It worked well eight years.
With changes every two years. Good luck 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To
All
Capt
Richard RP Yacht
BrokerageNewport
RI We list sell and service fine
yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767
5330
On Sep 6,
2014, at 22:27, "eric kimberlite@optonline.net
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






 Danny,My
seals last at least a year. It is very important to lift the
bow thruster as soon as you are finished with. If you forget
it down and motor or sail with it down you will take on
water.Fair winds,Ericsm 376
kimberlite  On Sat, Sep 06,
2014 at 07:01 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]
wrote:  
 









Hello Danny,



Totally agree that there is considerable water pressure
while sailing.



I was referring when servicing the bow thruster and even
just sitting with the bow too bow heavy, where water could
keep coming in.



The seals last only 9 months since changed by both Amel then
second time myself, I am a little desapointed with that.

I usually go sailing twice a month, not sure this mater so
much.



So last year, I installed a high water alarm in the forward
bilge as well as a bilge pump, etc.

http://nikimat.com/bilge_pump_high_water_alarm_bow_thruster.html



Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 9/6/14, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@xtra.co.nz
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fore and aft loading a SM

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, September 6, 2014, 2:42 PM





 



















Hi Alexandre,



You make a good point. However when we are sailing with
the

bow regularly plunging into the sea the bow thruster is
not

only well below the water there is considerable pressure

applied to the seals by that plunging especially when
going

to windward in a significant sea when the water will
often

be to top the top of the bow. So we need good attention
to

both the lip seal and the foam seals.



Cheers



Danny



SM 299 Ocean Pearl



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On Sun, 7/9/14, Alexandre Uster von Baar

uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:







Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] What is the total weight
of

your Super Maramu 2000?



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Received: Sunday, 7 September, 2014, 1:03 AM











 







































Good morning,















Sorry forgot the link:



http://www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_repair_issue.html















A word of caution loading too much, or too much on the

bow



your vessel.







Last year, when I slowly moved in I tried to balance
the



water line loading more toward the bow.







I also like better how she sailed (more weather helm).
















BUT, when I serviced the Bow Thruster in the water, I

noted



the water was dangerous closed to the top of the cavity



where the bow thruster retract.







As you can see on the 5th picture. (Disregards the

comments



on the page, these are old)







An inch more and water would have come into the vessel.










So after that I got ride of a lost of thing and

rebalanced



evrything and now have over 3 inches space.















Sincerely, Alexandre







SM2K #289 NIKIMAT







Bay Street Marina, Nassau, Bahamas















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On Sat, 9/6/14, divanz620@yahoo.fr
[amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] What is the total
weight

of



your Super Maramu 2000?







To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com







Date: Saturday, September 6, 2014, 3:37 AM























 















































































And you know it because the frequency of the
need







to get in the water and scrub around the waterline



increases







!







AND every SM that I







see is like ours...high in the bow and low in the







stern...too much weight aft...but why are they all
like



that







?...i think its because Amel never changed the

waterline







even though in the Maramu development they added a lot



more







weight aft of the centre of buoyancy







EG the drawings shown the rudder







stern gland above the waterline, but when we replaced



our







packing recently it wasn't, the water was flooding







in....it doesn't now thank goodness !







CheersAlanSV







Elyse SM437Natadola Bay, Fiji







































































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