Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Salinity Sensor is Not Hooked up to Anything
Ian Shepherd <ocean53@...>
Hi Gary,toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Your latest findings make further disturbing reading. Crusader went back in
the water a few days ago, and as promised, I have repeated the tests that
you did on your Dessalator water maker. I have a 160 l/h unit which is now 3
I removed the salinity tester from the output stage and plugged the hole
with a cork. I started the water maker, got the green 'good quality' light,
then immersed the salinity probe in a cup of seawater. NOTHING HAPPENED. The
water maker continued to fill my freshwater tank.
I then shut the unit down and restarted it with the probe still immersed in
seawater. THE GREEN LIGHT CAME ON AFTER ABOUT 55 SECONDS AND WATER WAS
DIVERTED INTO MY TANK.
So you are absolutely right. The safety feature on our water makers is a
complete sham. I find it quite amazing that any reputable manufacturer could
sell/install what is a life saving piece of equipment for those of us on
long voyages with such a potentially dangerous fault. Every other
manufacturer of desalination equipment that I have inspected has a similar
shutdown feature, that I assume, works? Why does it not on a Dessalator
Amel say in their manual that there is bad water protection, so why has it
been disabled? If Amel are aware that Pin11 is open circuit, then I consider
them to be highly irresponsible in leading their customers to believe that
the system that they chose, sold and installed does have a reliable
diversion system in the event of bad water being produced. This is
especially true on a yacht where there is only one fresh water tank. Pollute
that tank and you have nothing good left.
I shall write to M. Lemonnier and ask what solution Amel propose to assure
their customers that they have a safe water making system on board. I would
urge everyone else to do the same. The Dessalator system would, I think, not
comply with the Trades Description Act.
Thank you Gary for all your hard detective work. I am sure it is appreciated
by many of us.
Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader
Date: 06/11/06 05:35:27
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Salinity Sensor is Not Hooked up to
I have spent more than 40 hours drawing complete schematics and logic
diagrams for the
Dessalator water maker Control Board on my Amel SM 2000 , Hull # 335. I have
that the salinity sensor is wired to the circuit board on pin 11 and pin 12
of plug # 2 (see
the photo section for a component labeled photo of this board).
I HAVE VERIFIED THAT PIN 11 OF THIS BOARD IS NOT CONNECTED TO ANYTHING. PIN
GOES TO GROUND BUT THE SALINITY SENSOR THUS CONNECTED IS AN INCOMPLETE
CIRCUIT AND IS NOT FUNCTIONAL. FURTHERMORE, AS CURRENTLY CONFIGURED I CAN
NOT DETERMINE ANY WAY TO MAKE THE SALINITY SENSOR SYSTEM FUNCTIONAL. I CAN
ONLY CONCLUDE THAT THE SALINITY SENSOR ON MY WATERMAKER IS A SHAM
I URGE EVERY AMEL OWNER TO INSPECT THEIR DESSALATOR WATERMAKER CIRCUIT
BOARD. IF YOUR CIRCUIT BOARD IS THE SAME ONE AS DEPICTED IN THE PHOTO
AND THE SALINITY SENSOR IS WIRED TO PLUG 2, PINS 11 AND 12 THEN YOU CAN BE
ASSURED THAT THE SALINITY SENSOR IS NOT FUNCTIONAL IN ANY WAY.
Another way to determine if your salinity sensor is functional is to see if
changes to "good quality" and green LED light at the 55 second to 65 second
mark. If it
does then the salinity sensor is NOT functional. The timing function of the
determines the start up sequence and does function for high pressure
down of the system. No other sensing inputs to the board are functional. It
takes about 3
to 4 minutes for the TDS creep to come down to good quality water after
system start up.
This brief period of bad water production is of no consequence when compared
major volume of water production that follows.
I urge all owners to install a continuous EC (electrical conductivity)
monitor with alarm
funciton on the product water line of their water maker. If you do this you
will soon find
that the high EC alarm will sound for the first 3 - 4 minutes after startup
I have installed a
mute switch in the alarm relay line so that I can monitor the start up
sequence with the the
alarm muted and when the EC drops to 450 microSiemens/cm (about 500 ppm TDS)
"arm" the alarm by throwing the switch to allow the alarm to sound the
second EC goes
over 500 mSiemens/cm.
Dessalator and the Dessalator UK rep have intimated that Amel made this type
installation. But since the wiring inside the electrical box was undoubtedly
Dessalator and not Amel, and Amel has represented all along that the
system was functional, I believe this sham installation was unknown to Amel.
integrity with which Amel has always conducted itself leads me to believe
that this fraud
was NOT perpetrated by Amel. I don't fault Rod Boreham, the UK
Dessalator, as he was just passing along what Dessalator was telling him.
You now know the truth about the salinity sensor on our Dessalator water
Your opposing opinions are welcome. I would like nothing more than to be
on this issue.
Regards, Gary Silver s/v Liahona (currently on the hard in Jolly Harbor