I've been on the amel site and we have owned ocean pearl since 2008.
It has been immensely valuable to me.
I would like to make two points.
First tech savvy people can do things on the Internet I can't begin to understand and no doubt that is why they find the yahoo site frustrating. BUT. In my non tech way I find my way around and get all I need and I suspect many many others are the same.
Second point and most importantly the value of the site is unquestionably the quality of the advice freely given. Go look at the cruisers forum if you want to see what I mean. Lose the hugely experienced and generous contributers and no matter how fancy
or technical the site, it will die.
I AM HUGELY gratefull to the likes of bill from bebe and others who have given us so much of their time and knowledge. Thank you guys. Please please keep doing what you do so well. I won't name any more in case I leave one out.
That's my lot
Danny 299 Ocean pearl
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Date:21/02/2016 14:19 (GMT+12:00)
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Facebook Group
Hi, Ladies and Gentlemen.
Too bad this has turned into name-calling.
I'm no techie, but I do LOVE this forum. I'd hate for it to be lost because of stuff like this.
I can live with Yahoo, but it can be cumbersome when doing searches, especially in the photos section. That could probably be corrected by shuffling photos and comments into folders set up in an organized fashion.
Of more concern is the worry that several techie types have that Yahoo will quit supporting Groups.
I thought we were on the road to fixing that with all Gary's hard work. I have to admit that I haven't been visiting the new site much, but early reports are that it is very good.
The Facebook group already existing sounds like it has found its niche in more social endeavors. I quit FB a few years ago and only share grand baby pics with my family. (I only have a few "friends" and don't want any more). If
the group wanted to switch there I would be willing to try it again, but I'm not a fan.
Jay, you sound like someone who knows his way around the Internet. I'd be interested to know if you've visited Gary's new site, and what you think about his approach. Have you contacted him with offers to help him with it, suggestions
about how to make it better, etc?
Given Gary's expertise and hard work, I'd like to know if you think Facebook would be better and why.
Please keep your answers in a language us non-techies can understand.
Steady as she goes.
Member going on 8 years
I get the sense that you are inclined not to listen when people don't agree with you. Why not go back and read this thread again, because I think you may have missed a few key points - especially related to the search function. In fact, you were the one
that suggested closing the forum in a previous post. I understand this forum means a lot to you. Change can be hard - especially as we grow older.
I will also add that the decision to move from Yahoo forums to another platform will eventually be made for you when this gets shut down. Facebook is just one platform. Google groups is another great option.
I had mentioned in a previous post that it is presumptuous to try and spur a change based upon my limited time here. I now recognize that me innocently trying to help people move forward, by suggesting a modernized platform, was actually entry into the
crooked social structure led by "12 angry men." "It's always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. And wherever you run into it, prejudice always obscures the truth. I don't really know what the truth is."
In the past day I have received numerous private emails thanking me for suggesting a change and offering constructive feedback. I will go back to joining that silent majority. Eventually you will be forced to move to a platform quickly and likely lose
the member base you have here.
All of that being said, the limited connectivity and bandwidth issue is a real concern. My only suggestion is hit a wifi connection like the thousands of people living in the country you are visiting. Offshore, SSB email to select group members would probably
Yahoo Groups are searchable from within each group.
Within the Amel Yacht Owners Group on Yahoo, you can search Conversations, Files and Photos for key words. It works. I use it all the time.
You have owned an Amel for months, not years. You have been a member of this group for I suspect months, not years. Obviously, you do not understand the features of the Yahoo Group, while insisting that Facebook is what we need.
I apologize if the following statement is offensive to anyone...BUT when a new member and someone who is new to Amel...AND someone who has not taken the time to understand what we have in this Yahoo Group, starts preaching to me and this group about what
is good for us; I am inclined to not listen.
Additionally, it is not my decision or yours. If we were to successfully move to a new platform without losing members and value, the one person who MUST be "on board" is the owner of the Yahoo Group. I am not him, but if I were, I would be opposed.