Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Installation problem for stainless steel cast mixing elbow for YANMAR engine 4JH3


James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

As Mike suggested I will pass on the nitty-gritty details (both the findings and my rationale for buying new) once I get my new engine installed and operational. I will also post photos of the salt and corrosion in the cylinder head. There were a number of factors that drove my final decision.

Delivery, unfortunately, is not until mid May. Volvo Penta builds these engines one at a time (unless you are a mass orderer like Amel). I decided to go with a more powerful but same footprint D3-150. It was actually a few hundred dollars less than the original D3-110 - why not?

Vladimir, looking forward to your "return."

Until then,
Jamie Wendell
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54


On Monday, March 7, 2016 6:30 PM, "'Hanspeter.baettig' hanspeter.baettig@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Good Day Jamie
Only as i'm wondering? You install a new engine in your amel 54?
What was your decision to do this investment? Saltwater intrusion ? And then you change the hole engine? Was it easy in terms of alignement we spoke a lot of in this forum ? 
Fair winds
Hanspeter
SM/ Tamango 2

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Am 07.03.2016 um 19:01 schrieb James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 
Hey Vladimir, hope life is good on "Life is Good?" I am sure you are having a good time down in Guadeloupe. I was there last year about this time, right before we met at the St. James Club in Antigua. Sure wish I was there again now.

I am up here still in Annapolis on the hard waiting for my new engine. I pulled out the original and it had extensive saltwater intrusion in the exhaust manifold and inside the head. I am installing a new D3-150, which should be here in mid May. In the meantime I am wrapping up a lot of upgrades to the boat.

Take care and hope to see you sometime soon. What are your plans for the summer? What ever happened to White Star?

Thanks,
Jamie Wendell
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54


On Sunday, March 6, 2016 4:07 PM, "Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Good that the pins were long to accommodate the flange. 
On Mar 6, 2016 2:57 PM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Mine was cast stainless steel. I did not bother to measure it since it was a perfect fit.
However from memory (I am not on the boat) it wasn’t 12 mm thick.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 2:55 PM
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Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Installation problem for stainless steel cast mixing elbow for YANMAR engine 4JH3
 
 
That is good.
Did you get cast steel elbow with 12 mm thick flange?
Vladimir
SM 345 "Life is Good"
On Mar 6, 2016 3:17 PM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Vladimir,
The elbow I received from an eBay supplier was a perfect fit. I did not need to use and gasket sealer.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 7:07 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Installation problem for stainless steel cast mixing elbow for YANMAR engine 4JH3
 
 
Hi Eric,
You are correct. That is also a solution. I will try to do that on Monday.
I wrote my original email as a warning to those who has this cast elbow. It is not just simple replacement.
Did anybody use liquid gasket in addition to a metal one for installation of new mixing elbow?
Vladimir
SM 345 "Life is Good"
On Mar 5, 2016 8:33 PM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Why don’t you take the elbow to a machine ship and have them mill off 6 mm of the flange?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Installation problem for stainless steel cast mixing elbow for YANMAR engine 4JH3
 
 
This is additional information on the thread related to cast stainless steel mixing elbow.
Cast stainless mixing elbow is much better part at very good price. I was very happy when I bought one. But today I tried to install it and I couldn't. Cast part has much  thicker mounting flange. YANMAR mixing elbow has 6 mm thick flange. Cast elbow flange is 12 mm thick. In some cases effective pin length is too short to accomodate thick flange. Pin replacement is risky because corroded pin can easily break.
On my engine the elbow was leaking and one pin corroded so bad that the threads which  protruded from the nut are no longer usful.  I can install fabricated flange without a  problem, but I can't  use cast elbow with thick flange.  I am in Guadeloupe now and I have to fix my engine ASAP.  I have to evaluate my option now. I can grind off part of the flange to 6 mm thick. Or I can buy fabricated elbow that has 6 mm thick flange.  Pin replacement is not an option for me now. Most likely pin beaks if I try to remove it.
I have a question. Should I use liquid gasket in addition to the steel gasket that is normally used for this application? I believe that liquid high temperature gasket should improve sealing.




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