Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Change forestay on Santorin

antonio scipioni

Hi Craig,
Thank you for your help, in the picture you can see the turnbuckle on the forestay BUT only because I reinstall after trying to remove the forestay. 
When I tried to remove I removed turnbuckle rivets and all stop the way.

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Il giorno 23/mag/2016, alle ore 14:24, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:


Hi Antonio (PS added to my original reply),
Your pictures show that you have not removed the turnbuckle from the stay. 
I think the Italian word is tenditore. 
When you remove that the stay will slide out easily. 

Your original understanding that you only had to remove the rivets and three bolts was wrong. You also had to remove the tenditore (turnbuckle).
Good luck, 
PS - I do see that the extrusion is only a few cm out of the socket.  Once you remove the turnbuckle that should come out totally and the bushing will come out with the stay. You may have to apply some lubricant to the socket and a lot of turning back and forth to get the extrusion out all the way.

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi Craig,
Today I upload some pics.s for your help.
SN108 Vagabundo - Roma

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Il giorno 21/mag/2016, alle ore 22:15, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:


Hi Antonio,

Sorry to hear this is not working for you. 
After you drilled out all eight rivets, could you then pull the furling extrusion totally out of the socket it was in? 
These should separate by a few centimeters and you will be able to see the wire stay inside.
Let us know.
You do not have to remove the three bolts or the motor.
Perhaps if you could post the pictures you mentioned in your earlier message it would be more clear.

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Thanks Olivier and Craig,
I tryed yesterday to remove the old forestay but I can't, I understand I have only remove the rivets and the three bolts but the furler goes down only four cm.
My forestay is in land now, I don't know why happens this but I am thinking to cut the old forestay in the head (cause I have just the new one) and remove the engine to understand.
I have fear that the old cable may have opened up to the sealing.
Advice ? Opinion ?
SN108 Vagabundo - Rome

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Il giorno 20/mag/2016, alle ore 08:22, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:


Hi Antonio,

sorry that I could not reply earlier. What Craig writes is right.
The furler should go down and pass the swage. You need to shake the thread-swage while you try to move the furler (or while you push the cable upwards, as your forestay/furler assembly is lying).
You don't need to remove the black disk at the bottom of the furler (it would not bring anything more).

Bon courage.


On Thursday, May 19, 2016 2:25 PM, "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello Antonio,
After you removed the rivets were you able to lift the extrusion out of its socket a few centimeters? That is where you will see the bushing - be careful not to drop it.
Did you remove the turnbuckle bottle screw so that the only thing on the end of the stay is the swaged stud bolt? If so then there should be nothing preventing the head stay from sliding out. 
Are you doing this with the mast up, or is it off the boat? If it is still up you must move the motor/gearbox assembly so you can slide the stay out.  And just to be clear, there is only one bushing but it is split in half and, no, you do not have to remove the black plastic cover.
Also, you'll need to post your photos in the photo section - they do not come through in the message text.
Cheers, Craig, SN#68 Sangaris

---In amelyachtowners@..., <stilemare@...> wrote :

Hi Olivier,
Thanks for your answer, I remember you sayd me in Canet to check the tension and the forestay, now I am reinstall all the new acmo rig and I don't understand how take out the old. I saw the delos video about and I understand I have to remove the furler (engine and gear) but how I can ?
I take out the rivets and the allens but the furler goes down some centimeters only and after he stop. The cable don't go up, I understand there are two bushing, but how I can remove ? In the furler down there is a plastic black cover, have I remove this ?
I send you some pics.

Il giorno 18/mag/2016, alle ore 15:53, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

Hello Antonio,

as I've seen your mast lying, I suppose your genoa furler with tube and forestay are lying too.
Once you have removed the turnbuckle, you have noticed that the forestay cannot go towards the top of the tube. This is because of a nylon bushing that is installed between the furler and the tube/pulley, around the forestay, just above the swage.
This bushing is made of two half-cylinders. To release this bushing, you need to remove the furler from the tube.
Then you have two solutions:
-undo the bolts at the base of the pulley (but very likely, the aluminum  pulley is seized on the furler's stainless steel hub)
-or remove the rivets that hold the pulley onto the tube
Then, you will get access to the famous bushing, remove it and move the forestay all the way to the top of the tube.

Feel free to ask if this is not clear.


On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:34 PM, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi owners,
I am changing the forestay but I can't understand how remove the old cable.
Is necessary remove the engine and the gearbox ?
Where I can find the instruction?
SN108 Vagabungo

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