Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ONAN Spare Parts


karkauai
 

Hi Alex. Mine is MDKAL/ 11604A
I don't see anything about B specs
Kent

On Jun 7, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hello Kent, I think I can build a new boat !!!

Looks like we have the same genset or I am mistaking?
I have the MDKAL (B Specs) as well
http://nikimat.com/onan_mdkal_b_specs_12_volt_kubota_d1105.html

Alexandre

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On Tue, 6/7/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ONAN Spare Parts
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2016, 9:29 AM












Wow! I knew you had a lot of spares,
Alex...didn't realize you could build a whole new
genset!
Thanks.
My ONAN is a 6.5 kW
MDKAL/11604A
I'll have to see
how many parts are interchangeable.
KentSM243Kristy
On Jun 7,
2016, at 10:09 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:























I would like to hear on the forum, how many of us
had to change it.



Is this the same control on the newer genset (MDKAV?) like
on BeBe?



Kent, here is currently my list of spare parts for the
Genset:

http://nikimat.com/spare_parts_ONAN_MDKAL_B_Specs_12_volt.html



I just need to change to current inventory the exhaust
mixing elbow, exhaust gasket, etc. that are at the
bottom.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



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On Tue, 6/7/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] ONAN Spare Parts

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2016, 8:34 AM

























Wow, what a pain! Glad it's all back

in working order, Alex. Maybe a few of us should order

those control cards as a group if they have to
manufacture

them???. That could take months!I guess I'll go

ahead and order a spare voltage regulator. Any other

spares that anyone keeps for the ONAN? I have filters,

impellers, water pump, shut off solenoid, fuel lift
pump,

relays, and exhaust elbow, all of which have failed on

Kristy in the past.

I took the liberty to

change the subject.

Thanks for the update

and info, Alex!

KentSM 243KristyCurrently Bonaire



Sent from my

iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 9:22

AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:















































Generator back working !!!







May 19, I had an Onan technicien looking at the genset
and

he said it was the Control Board Part number 0305-0896



May 20 I went to Onan San Juan, the “last” control card


(cost $976) is in Belgium and won’t arrive until May 26.






Checking on progress, there actually was no card left,
so

Onan had to manufacturer one… schedule to arrive Jun
9.





Checking on progresse now Onan says they can’t find a

manufacturer for the card… but they found one in Maine…


(why didn’t they see it earlier…)



The card arrived yesterday (june 6), I put it back and
it

worked.







Note: on Feb 28, 2015, Jean-Pierre Germain of SY
Eleuthera,

SM 007 wrote me: “as per Onan recommendation, I am

ordering the Automatic Voltage Regulator. Part number

0305-0896 apparently, they fail far more regularly.”
he

was right.







I am considering ordering a spare (just wish it was

cheaper), as without that card the genset is useless:
there

was 2 power failure at the marina, once had to use the

engine to recharge the batteries, not to mention
wasn’t

able to exercise the scuba compressor, etc.







Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico







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On Tue, 5/10/16, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@rocketmail.com>

wrote:







Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Generator failure
(Field

Breaker) won’t start



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 3:03 PM







Hello Mark,







I start it and it shuts down right away.



There is no load on it yet (I switch off all my 220
Volt



devices Off before I start the genset).



As Bill suggested I tried to start it with the 30 Amp



breaker off and it did not help, which means the cause

is



“before” the courant leaves the genset.







The fuse that goes out is the “Field Breaker (check



generator)” which means something wrong with the



generator.



You could say it is the “Field Breaker (check



generator)” popping that causes the engine to switch



off.



I think would be more accurate to say a “module” or



something inside the generator is faulty which causes

the



breaker to pop up.







I called the Onan mechanic that checked and service my



genset last year (in Florida) he is actually from
Puerto



Rico and will recommend me someone.



I have zero knowledge in electronics, so even if I open

it



and look at the module I doubt I will see anything that



makes sense to me…







I will keep the forum posted!







Sincerely, Alexandre















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On Tue, 5/10/16, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@gmail.com



[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



wrote:







Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Generator failure

(Field



Breaker) won’t start



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 1:55 PM



















































Hi Alexandre,



I need to better



understand,



Does the generator start, run for a



little and then shut down? If so, how long does it



run?Is the “Fault Breaker (check



Generator)” that is popping to cause the



shutdown?Is this happening with no



load? With best regards, Mark



SkipperSailing Yacht: Cream



Puff www.creampuff.us



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]







Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:19 PM



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners]



Generator failure (Field Breaker) won’t



start Good afternoon Mark,



I also think the big wave and the generator



failure are not connected (unless a module or
something



inside it got loose/disconnected).



But I



think if it was something “engine” related like
the



electric pump, sensor, etc. the “Fault Breaker
(Check



Engine)” switch would pop up, in my case it is the



“Field Breaker (check generator)” which makes me

think



about an issue on the “generator” side.



But I will be investigating.



Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre







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On Tue, 5/10/16, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@gmail.com



[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



wrote:







Subject: RE: [Amel



Yacht Owners] Generator failure (Field Breaker)
won’t



start



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 11:25 AM



















































Alexandre,



A couple of



thoughts: the fact the



generator runs, or



briefly runs would indicate nothing



mechanical is wrong. If it were me, I would



operate on the



assumption the big wave and



the generator failure were not



connected. Is



it possible that you have a clogged fuel line



and is the electric fuel pump working



correctly? Is the



exhaust clear of any



blockage? Is the airflow into the



engine



obstructed? You can loosen a fuel line at the



injector to check for fuel flow. You should



see fuel



leaking out when the engine is



cranked. Also, could it be a



faulty sensor



(heat or oil)? But I think either of these



would shut the generator off but they would pop



the fault



thingamajig.







With best



regards, Mark Super



Maramu



2000Hull



#275www.creampuff.usCurrently



cruising: Cambridge Cay –



Exuma Land and Sea Park - Bahamas



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]







Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 10:23 AM



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]



Generator failure (Field Breaker) won’t



start Good morning Bill,







During the trip I tried to



start with the 30 Amp 230 Volt OFF, since I was



pretty tired



I just tried again same



result… shuts down right away…







I am afraid, like you wrote that it is



internal and will be looking for an Onan



authorized dealer



(well good I am in Puerto



Rico and not in Dominican Republic



anymore!)







As always thanks very much for



your help.



I will keep the



forum updates on



what failed, possibly the



cause, etc.







Sincerely,



Alexandre



SM2K #289



NIKIMAT



Club Nautico de San



Juan, Puerto



Rico







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On Mon, 5/9/16, 'Bill & Judy



Rouse'



yahoogroups@svbebe.com



[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



wrote:







Subject: Re: [Amel



Yacht



Owners] Generator failure (Field Breaker) won’t



start



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Date: Monday, May 9, 2016, 3:30 PM



















































OK. I understand the model you



have. I think it is better than mine because



it



is



simpler.



Try this: Turn



OFF the 30 Amp



230VAC breaker on



the side.



Try to start. Does it start and run OK? If



it



does, the short is external of the



generator



and your guess



is



as good as mine, but I



would start with the



shore



power/generator



solenoid box.



If you have the



same results



as before, the



short is internal...if so,



find



an authorized Onan



dealer/mechanic.



Bill Rouse







BeBe Amel 53 #387







Sent from my tablet







+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail



On May 9, 2016 4:15



PM,



"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com



[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



wrote:







































































































Good



afternoon Bill,















Regarding the



“Field



Breaker” (check generator) I put



a



link to



the pictures of my



genset:







http://nikimat.com/onan_mdkal_b_specs_12_volt_kubota_d1105.html















For limited bandwidth, here is the pictures



of



my front



panel







http://nikimat.com/onan_mdkal_b_specs_12_volt_kubota_d1105/onan_mdkal_b_specs_12_volt_kubota_d1105_1.jpg















I also have the DC Circuit Breakers on top



of



my Emergency



Stop and the



30 Amp 230 VAC



switch on the left side as



well.



















As of now, when I start the



generator, the



“Field



Breaker” (check generator) will



pop and shut down right



away



the genset.







I also suspect



an electrical



short somewhere… just not



sure where to



start…















Thanks in advance, sincerely,



Alexandre















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On Mon, 5/9/16, 'Bill



& Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@svbebe.com



[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



wrote:















Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht



Owners] Generator failure (Field



Breaker)



won’t start







To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com







Date: Monday, May 9, 2016,



2:54 PM







































































































Alex,







I am not sure what you mean



by



"field







breaker."



Could you



explain that further. My Onan



has







an



Emergency



Stop switch (breaker), a DC Breaker, and a







230VAC 30 Amp breaker. This



30



Amp breaker is on the



left







side of



the generator, the



other two are on the



main







generator control



panel. Mine will not start



with either



the







Emergency



or the DC set to OFF. It will start



with



those



two







ON and the 30 Amp OFF.







Also, am I correct that you generator will







start and run, but shuts



down



when something...possibly



what







you refer



to as field breaker,



is turned ON? That



sounds



to







me a an electrical short.







I know we have different



models, but they







aren't



that different.







Let me



know.











Bill Rouse















BeBe Amel 53 #387















Sent from



my



tablet















+1832-380-4970 USA Voice



Mail







On May



9,



2016 3:08 PM,







"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com







[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>







wrote:































































































































































































































Good afternoon,































The passage from Samana (Dominican Republic)



to



San Juan







(Puerto Rico) was



rough (as the



waive were in the nose,



so







lots of pounding.































As usual I started the



genset



to recharge the batteries,



2







or 3 minutes



later was a big



waive/pounding and it



stopped.



























The “Field



breaker” pop.































I switch off



all the 220 volt



device, press the “Field







breaker” back, started then



shut down instantly, I



tried







starting with the DC



breaker



off, etc. same it shuts



down







instantly.















I don’t



even know where to start to find the



problem.



































I own the ONAN MDKAL B Specs















http://nikimat.com/onan_mdkal_b_specs_12_volt_kubota_d1105.html















Unless I am mistaking there is no code to



see



(unlike



the







more recent genset).































Prior that I only used the



genset lasts week



for 18



minutes







all



was ok. Before that was a month before for



1.4 hour



to







exercise all the systems and all was ok.































Thanks in advance for your



help…































Sincerely,



Alexandre















SM2K #289 NIKIMAT















Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico




























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