Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Bill,
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I now understand what you mean by the 10 mm thickness!!! Around the R8.0 !!! I no longer have the previous gas strut (which I don’t know if the were original), but on them was written: RIVEN 588539.00 213601.00004 F1=400N 299/99 I don’t know what it means (except for the 400 newton), I sent it at the time to Bansbach. As always thanks for the help, precision on understanding the specs! Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 6/21/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2016, 7:37 AM Alex, If you look at the drawing you posted you omitted the end piece specifications which is R8.0 thickness 10 for each end, diameter of the hole in the end which is 8.2mm, and length of the end piece which is 20mm from hole center to pushrod. I think that all of these are correct, except thickness, which I believe should be 8 or 9mm. Take another look at your drawing at http://nikimat.com/engine_room_hatch_gas_strut.html. There are 12 specifications listed on that drawing...and each is variable. In addition, there is one more specification which is the force...it should be N400. So, there are 13 different variable specifications when ordering these. It is not a simple task to get correct. My friend, another SM owner got it mostly correct. I had to drill the end holes because he ordered 8mm, and it needed to be larger...your drawing shoes 8.2mm, and I think that is correct. Also, like you, my friend ordered 10mm thickness for the ends, but the original Amel strut was 8mm thick. I had to modify some things and it almost did not fit. If you still have an old strut and you know it is original, compare it to all of the specs on your drawing. It is more complicated than you think, and sometimes we get lucky! Best, Bill On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Good morning Bill, I am not technical at all, but isn’t it the “8 mm hinge on each side” the specification of the ends? I just posted the drawing Bansbach sent me on http://nikimat.com/engine_room_hatch_gas_strut.html Hope that helps. Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 6/20/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 6:44 PM alex, That description is not complete because you also need the specification of each end where they are connected. I am not sure of the specification, but I am sure that this is a variable specification that needs identification. Like I said, Ben, it is complicated. BillBeBe 387 On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Good memory Kent, I purchased 2 from Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999 Esteban Contreras estebanc@... A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall 400 NM resistance The stroke is 8 mm The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm With 8 mm hinge on each side. Took a few weeks to build They were $125 each (and free shipping). These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for 10.000 opening... They also had a cheaper standard line. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 6/20/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas struts for engine room hatch To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Monday, June 20, 2016, 3:20 PM Hi Ben,If you look back several months (maybe a year) I think it was Alexandre posted a source for these in the US. Stainless steel and very reasonably priced.KentSM243Kristy On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Bill, Did you buy these struts from Amel?Ben Ben DriverLa Bella VitaCG #1120066SM #347 Sent from my iPad On Jun 20, 2016, at 6:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Derick, My experience is they will last about 6-8 years...my experience with the original two. I think you should replace them in pairs...I did not, but that is another story. Do not over-spec the thrust...they are rated at N400. There is no maintenance on these except to keep them clean. It is easy to bend one of these if you close the lid improperly. The proper way to close is to press down on the middle of the engine room lid. Best, BillBeBe 387le Phare Bleu, Grenada for a few days On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:58 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Ben, I am glad that you were able to find swift and competent care for what must be an excruciating injury. Thank you for sharing this cautionary tale. I will certainly take even more care when operating the engine room hatch. One of my gas struts had been stepped on by an over-eager Yanmar technician and I had to replace it. I found that after replacement of the strut that the hatch gave a much more controlled closure than before it got bent. I think that these struts may need to be replaced on some regular schedule. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how long they should last? 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