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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: A RIB Dinghy Question...

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

JP,

I do not remember what dinghy you have. 

Facts:
We have a 310 and previously had a 320. To get the dinghy to lay in that area upside down you have to put the aft tubes on either side of the mizzen, which will somewhat alter the cockpit seating comfort in those two spots. 

Opinion:
The 260 is a little small for me (but generally big for Europeans) and you will certainly get wetter than in a larger dinghy. Additionally, your engine choices will be limited to about 9hp or less. Dinghies and outboards are very important choices because you will rely on them for much of your enjoyment when cruising the world.

Summary:
The 310 or 320 will take a 15hp engine which is large enough to push a SM up to 3kts (calm seas) with the dinghy tied fore and aft on the quarter of the SM. When cruising to distant shores a dinghy can sometimes be the only source to save you from grounding with engine failure, especially with no wind.

The 310 & 320 will fit upside down on the mizzen deck with the aft tubes against the starboard rail and lying at an angle with the bow of the dinghy against the aft port mizzen shroud. This position allows use of the starboard mizzen mid halyard to raise the dinghy with the electric main winch after you have used the same to raise the outboard motor. Access to the rear of the boat can be made on the port side faux-teak deck and the port side is sufficient for anything you want to do. The mizzen traveller is 100% free to travel from starboard to port. The only issue is deck connection of the mizzen boom preventer is blocked. A piece of line tied to the starboard chainplate is an easy solution.

BTW, it is very easy to use the port side mizzen halyard with a dinghy lifting harness to raise the dinghy with motor to deck level when at anchor to avoid fouling and theft. The dinghy will rest against the port chainplate. I use a very small fender between the dinghy and the chainplate and tie the dinghy fore and aft.

I hope this helps someone in making their choices.

Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Trinidad

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Jean-Pierre Germain jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If I had to buy again, I'd opt for a smaller rib equal or shorter than the mizzen mast to the mizzen traveler. 

A fit to measure for the aft deck ...,

Jean-Pierre
Eleuthera SM007



On 30 Jun 2016, at 12:07, Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

This how we have solved it on S/Y Lady Annila. The Dinghy is a Carib CX8

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u8ufca4tt73dbq8/AAD8AxcANvAUU6IPK_LggbHCa?dl=0

 

/Regards

Annsofie

 

S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

 

 

 

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Ian,

   Thanks for the detailed information on the UL 260,  very helpful.  I will see if there might be a way to fit the 290 on the aft cabin top deflated without interference from the traveller but it does at least sound like the 260 would fit.  The videos showing the 260 also suggest to me that a bit more length would improve the stability.  I am wondering if eventually the aluminum will begin to corrode where it is pressed up against the tubes?  Hopefully that will not be an issue.  I never would have thought that a RIB could be as light as these dinghies,  quite a breakthrough I think.  I will let you know if I am able to fit the UL 290 and if so what I think of it.

Best,

James

Maramu #220  Sueno


On Jun 30, 2016, at 3:13 AM, parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

James
The short answer is I don't know, our boat is in Grenada and we're in UK!
Previously we had a Quicksilver 275 air deck. It lasted 13 years. The sun in the Med and the Caribbean destroyed the inflatable deck. The tubes and floor are still going strong with friends who made a wooden floor for it. My experience of PVC has therefore been good as long as it isn't in the sun. One thing I have found with the hard hull and Hypalon tubes is that the tubes don't need to be inflated anywhere near the pressure of airdeck. Therefore they withstand the rigours of the big pressure variation in tropical sunlight.

The Highfield has had five months use. I have no reason to believe the powder coating will be an issue. It has taken a bit more abuse than the old PVC dinghy!

Our Santorin came with the Liferaft cradle on the aft deck. The UL260 transom sits over the top of it up against the mizzen mast. With all tubes deflated it seems well short of the edge of the coach roof ( but I don't know comparative lengths). I have an electric inflator in the lazarette so no hassle there. With the air deck the electric pump would not achieve the inflation pressure especially for the floor and had to be finished by hand pump.

The Quicksilver was rated at max 10 HP outboard. The Highfield had a lower figure in the book than on the transom. The high figure was 6 HP. We got the 9.8 2 stroke which was the same weight. I doubt if the 6 HP would get it on the plane with two up and the shopping. Previously we had a 3.3 2 stroke - the difference now is we no longer have to see how close to the shoreline we can anchor (a longer haul to shore is much quicker now).

I am pleased with the dinghy, but in retrospect I could have got the 290 on board inflated on the front deck. I think this would have achieved planing speeds even better. The length of the 260 hull does sacrifice a bit when turning and going over steeper chop.

The 260 doesn't row as well as the Quicksilver, the bow sits higher out of the water and is more affected by the wind. We tend to use the oars and paddle from either side of the bow sitting on the seat when we choose not to use the engine.

The boat had a beautiful padded seat cover and underseat zip up back. Excellent design, but disintegrated in the sun in 3 months.

Highfield have recognised the problem and have changed the material. They are sending me a new one. 

Sorry about the length of the saga, I guess you need to get some deflated sizes from Highfield. 
The weight is really good for two pensioners to haul aboard with the halliard and winch.

Good hunting

Ian

'Ocean Hobo' SN96
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