Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Polishing system


Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Alexandre

Here is the link to it at Defender


Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

What is the name of that filter?

Alexandre

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On Mon, 7/11/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Polishing system
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Monday, July 11, 2016, 7:33 AM


 














Hi Colin,
                    I suggest that instead of a
Baja filter you look out for one of the newer ( 8 years old)
filters that consist of a black plastic , flat bottomed
funnel with a vertical filter tube in the centre. We used
one in South America to great effect.
I have seen comparison tests with the Baja and the Baja
came a poor second, as well as needing a lot of cleaning
each time you use it.
 I don't have the name of the black filter but it is
widely available in chandlers ( I think it is made in
Canada)
 I have demonstrated it to friends by filling it with
water--not a drop goes through the filter.  It certainly
saved us on several occasions--once, 15% of the
"diesel" we bought was water and crud.



Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza


From: amelyachtowners@...
<amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of Colin
Streeter colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>

Sent: 11 July 2016 11:06:43

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fuel Polishing
system
 


Mark
Thanks Mark. Does that mean that you plumbed / welded a
2nd return entrance pipe back into the fuel tank, ie.
separate from the one that pushes the engine and generator
excess fuel back into the tank?
Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel53 #332
Brisbane



On Mon, Jul 11, 2016
at 8:59 PM, Mark Pitt
mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 




Hi Colin,



My fuel polisher has its own fuel return.



Mark Pitt
S/V Sabbatical III, ASM hull 419, Sardinia









On Jul 10, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Colin Streeter
colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:






Thanks Mark
Glad to hear it works so well and I will certainly
follow your great idea about including a T piece for
re-fuelling from jerry cans. What a brillinant idea as I am
currently on the look out for a Baja Fuel filter too.



One question, did you simply plumb the return fuel flow
into the normal engine return flow valve at the top and aft
cabin end of the SM's fuel tank? Being an amateur at
this I was worried that the speed of the pump may force too
much fuel through that
small inlet?



Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane



On Sun, Jul 10, 2016
at 11:54 PM, Mark Pitt
mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:


 




I installed this Reverso fuel polisher on Sabbatical
III ten years ago and it was one of the best additions that
I could have made.  I put a tee on the inlet hose to the
Reverso and attached about 3 meters so fuel hose on the
other side of the tee. When
I have needed to jerry can fuel in the South Pacific or
Indonesia,I just put the hose in the jerry cans lined up on
the cockpit seat and had the Reverso suck the fuel through
the large 10 micro Racor filter.  When I used a fuel dock
that was suspect, such
as in Vanuatu,  I put the fuel nozzle and my fuel hose for
the fuel polisher in a single Jerry can and just kept fuel
coming into the Jerry can at the same rate the Reverso
polished pulled it out. It is rated at 550 liters for
hours.  Faster than a Baja filter.



I use the fuel polisher for a few hours every week and
my tank is totally clean.  I use 10 micron filters in the
AMEL-installed dual Racor primary system since it would make
sense to polish fuel at 10 micron and filter it at 30
microns just before it is
burned.



Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, ASM hull 419
Sardinia















On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Colin Streeter
colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:










Regarding the original question on installing
a fuel polishing system we purchased a Reverso fuel
polishing system in Fort Lauderdale and will be fitting it
soon. We placed it on the rear engine wall behind the motor
and above the dual Racor
filters on the Super Maramu. Seems to fit well there
although it is a large unit. Only modification required was
to replace a section of the Onan's exhaust pipe with a
slightly longer piece.



Cannot comment on how good it is as we have yet to
plumb it into the fuel system however it was rated well on
Active Captain and it comes with a timer, vaccuum guage etc
as a complete easy to install kit. This was possibly an
unnecessary extra item as
we already have the dual Racor filters with quick change
over switch but got this for extra peace of mind given our
intended cruise through Indonesia and Indian ocean islands
next year.



Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 # 332
Brisbane







On Sun, Jul 10, 2016
at 10:06 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'
yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:


 




I'll add a things that I am sure everyone
does.




If at all possible, use a busy fuel dock. The
busier, the better. When using a busy fuel dock, filter the
first 20-40 liters...if all is clear with no water, fill
freely.Also, I am sure that we all use some

sort of fuel treatment. Eric's suggestion is good, or
the enzyme-type treatment from StarBrite, or
both. Lastly, if your boat sits up for months at a
time, open the inspection ports on the tank and do two
things: Using a pump, extract at least a liter from the
lowest point that you can reach, preferably just off the
bottom and examine for water. If you get
some water, repeat until you no longer get water. Then
 tie a white cloth to the end of a broomstick and wipe the
cloth against the side and bottom of the tank to examine how
much crud is against the sides. A lot of crud will mean that
you probably need the
tank and fuel professionally cleaned.
Bill
BeBe 387
Trinidad
 






On Sun, Jul 10, 2016
at 11:03 AM, Jean-Pierre Germain
jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:


 




Hello both of you,



FWIW, when planning the improvements needed for trouble
free RTW, I considered options including nuclear
purification:-)



Eventually I avoided the over engineered system by
choosing a pair of Racor 75900 with 4 way valve. Never had
more than a trace of dirt. The fuel gets effectively
polished both on the feed and return lines. I don't
foresee any big problem in the future. 



Any suspected fuel would be passed through on fill up.
Used this effectively in the past



Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera SM007









On 10 Jul 2016, at 10:30,
rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:





 

Regarding portable filters you would use at the fuel
dock, this is a cut and past from a previous post we
made--"We've had
good luck with the Mr. Funnel filter, we use the largest one
with 2 filters in the bowl.  The flow
rate is good and it allows you to reasonably fill your Amel
tank at the fuel dock at 12 gpm.  The Mr. Funnel, West
Marine, and Racor RFF are the same and all made by
Shurhold.  You can test it periodically by filling about
1/4 full with water and confirming
that none passes, with more water, say 1/2 there is enough
pressure to push the water through.  Can also use it for a
contaminated outboard tank but take precautions with
gasoline!  Racor says it filters down to 50 microns
 http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_Fuel_Filter_Funnels_-_7568.pdf 
"  The fact that
Racor is marketing a version is a good endorsement I
think. 



Regarding a fuel
polishing system.  I would urge you to take a close look at
"fuel purifiers"..We used an RCI fuel purifier for
about 8 years on our Santorin and we drained a significant
amount of gunk out before if got
to our Racors.  We are presently using a similar MLS which
we purchased in the Netherlands.  Professional fuel
polishers tend to use these kinds of units with their
portable polishers and they are also popular on earth
movers, buses, trucks, etc.There are
not filters to drain and they don't clog..  They say
they remove 99% of the water and particulates and you just
drain it out into a cup and discard.   I would just put it
inline ahead of the Racors and would not bother with a
circulation pump or anything else. 
As noted in this discussion, there is considerably more
diesel fuel pumped through the fuel system than is used by
the engine.  Excess fuel is frequently used to cool the
injectors.  Universal
Fuel Purifiers | RCI Technologies












Universal
Fuel Purifiers | RCI Technologies
Universal
Fuel Purifiers





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 I used to provide
a website for a diesel shop in Maryland and they gave me a
deluxe on-board polisher for my Santorin which you can read
about in the link that follows--but I think the design was
over-kill and on my Super
Maramu I use just an initial inline fuel purifier (rated
for 300 hp diesels, I think) Marine
Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning Onboard
Fuel Polisher












Marine
Diesel -Advanced Fuel Filtering and Conditioning ...

Diesel
Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair,
Repowering. Located near Annapolis, serving the Chesapeake.
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Marine
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Board Fuel Polisher












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Diesel Center-Advanced Fuel Filtering an...
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Center--Marine Diesel Engine and Maintenance, Repair,
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Again that system
was real overkill and I don't happen to believe in the
Algae-X they threw in.... 



Regarding the
2/10/30 micron, IMHO the most important thing is to see that
your suction pressure remains low on your Racor.  If you
don't have one you should install a gauge.  In a
cumulative 11 years of using fuel purifiers
I don't think I ever really needed to change a Racor
filter.  They were always clean when I removed them on a
scheduled basis and the suction pressure never built
up.



Regarding additives
I have always been a fan of Stanadyne Stanadyne
Additives







Stanadyne
Additives
The
heart of your engine is its fuel injection equipment and the
major enemy of this equipment is poor quality fuel.






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Marmaris, Türkiye
 




































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