Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation


karkauai
 

Hi again Alex.I've been told that the 110-220V transformer is an isolated transformer and thus doesn't need to be protected by a galvanic isolator.  Maybe someone can expound on that theory.  If it's true, your 110VAC shore power may already be protected????Kent


From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation

  Good morning Kent,

Our vessel are similar.

And if you look at all the pictures I posted, especially Part 2, you will see I trace the wires to the automatic switch above the genset as this is where I remember Olivier mentioned to connect the Galvanic Isolator.

Therefore, that box “intimidates” me… and I felt logical to connect the Galvanic Isolator to the very first connection (which is the box on top of the forward bulkhead).
If I did not had that box, then the first connection would have been the automatic switch above the genset.

As Derick mentioned and was thinking the other night: currently the 110 shore power is not protected.
Not a problem as I don’t use the 100 volt power.
By Connecting its earth to the domino, it will be.
And the Big cubical white transformer will be after and not before the Galvanic Isolator.

Would love to hear back from Olivier on my set-up

Alexandre

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On Tue, 8/16/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 6:10 PM


 









Hi Alex,Your #289 is fairly
close to my #243.
I'm not on the
boat, so writing this from memory.  If I've left
something out or am still clueless about something, please
chime in.
 If Nikimat is like
Kristy, the 110AC shore power will go directly to a box on
the forward bulkhead, up against the cockpit floor.  It
terminates at a 110AC 30A breaker there.  From the breaker,
it goes to your 110->220 AC transformer.  On Kristy the
transformer is a cubical box on the forward end of the shelf
above the generator.The converted 220AC
power output (which will be the same frequency as the input,
60Hz) then goes back to the box on the bulkhead to a female
plug marked "220 via the transformer" (sorry,
it's inFrench and I can't remember it exactly).  To
use 110 shore power, you have to insert the male plug in
this receptacle. (For 220 shore power it has to be plugged
into the other receptacle on the front of that box marked
2"20AC Sur Le Quai".From either receptacle,
it then goes to the automatic switch which chooses generator
power over shore power.  This is above the generator. I
don't remember how it is marked.  There is another box
near there marked 220AC that has the relays for the Air
Conditioners that turn on the 220AC raw water pump which
cools all three A/C units.From that automatic
switch, all 220AC power goes to the 220 breakers in the
galley.
If you have a 220
inverter, power goes from it to the 220 panel receptacles
and microwave breakers.  I think others have a little
different set up with the inverter.
In a post a year or so
ago, Olivier suggested that you could cover both 220AC and
110AC shore power by putting the galvanic isolator in the
ground wire that goes from the box on the forward bulkhead
in the engine room to the automatic switch above the
generator.  My understanding is that the 110->220
transformer is an "isolation transformer", and
having it between the shore power and the galvanic isolator
is not a problem.  The only other item that is between
shore power and the galvanic isolator with this placement is
the 110 breaker in the box on the forward engine room
bulkhead.
Hop that
helpsKentSM243Kristy

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iPhone
On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:58
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Good afternoon Derick,



Thanks for the compliment and also to pay attention to the
details!!!



You are totally correct, currently only the 220 volt is
connected.

Electricity is my weakest subject, so building confidence!




I was just thinking last night the same thing you mentioned!


The 110 Volt earth should fit inside the electric
“domino”.



My 110 volt doesn’t have any shore plug… I need to open
the box and look at what color cable I have and see where
they go.



Do you have both shore power?

If so what good options could be good to have?



I assume the 30 A 125 Volt?

http://www.frugal-mariner.com/images/img0565.png



Does any of you have other plug for European, South
American, etc. Marinas?



Once I take the pictures, i will make a post just for it.



Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



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On Tue, 8/16/16, derickgates@comcast.net
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the
Galvanic Isolator Installation

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 1:23 PM





 



















Alexandre,

Nicely illustrated, as always.

 Thank you for the instructive pictures!

I note that the way you have hooked

up the galvanic isolator, only the 230V shore line is

isolated.  The 110V shore line is not (yet) protected.

 You can protect the 110V shore line using the same

isolator by hooking it up similarly simultaneously.

 Disconnect the 110V ground from the common post in the

box, and connect it to the input side of the galvanic

isolator using the same connection point as the 230V
shore

ground and you have done it!  (I.e. Change your 2-wire

connector to a three-wire connector.)

That way you are protected no matter

which shore line you use!

Derick

GatesSM2K#400Currently on the hard in

Antigua for hurricane season



















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