Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation


Mike Johnson
 

Hi Alexandre,
We purchased the following Galvanic Isolator:
http://www.bcet.co.uk/galvanic-isolator-products.html
The advantage of the gauge is that the isolator can be tested and any stray voltages monitored visually.  This one has also been fitted by other owners on the forum who may also be able to verify its performance.
Very best wishes
Mike & Peta
SM 2K 461Solitude
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From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>


 

Good morning Mike,

This is a great news!

Bill (SM#160, Harmonie) is trying to obtain information on the originally installed Scheiber transformer.

Out of curiosity: which make/model of Galvanic Isolator did you purchase?

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Wed, 8/17/16, MICHAEL JOHNSON mike.k.johnson@btinternet.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 7:35 PM


 










Hi
Alexandre,
From the
website it would appear to be an isolation transformer.
 When I purchased my galvanic isolator the support team
were very helpful with technical information.  Suggest you
email them with specific questions about the isolation
transformer.
Mike
_____________________________
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration
of the Galvanic Isolator Installation
To:
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



  Thanks for
the reply Mike,

Do you
know if the 110-220 Volt transformer is for sure an
'isolation transformer?

Sincerely Alexandre

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On Wed, 8/17/16, BT mike.k.johnson@btinternet.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator
Installation
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 10:49 AM


 










Hi,
My
understanding is that if an
'isolation
transformer' at the first point of entry
to the boat then a galvanic isolator us not
required as
there is no potentional earth
return circuit between the
boat and shore
power.
http://www.bcet.co.uk/marine-isolation-transformers.html
it is the best option for preventing
galvanic corrosion but also the most expensive
and
heaviest.
Regards
Mike & Peta
SM 2K
461Solitude

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On Wed, Aug 17, 2016
at 3:27 PM +0100, "Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

























 







Hi
again
Alex.I've
been told that the 110-220V
transformer is an isolated
transformer and
thus doesn't need to be protected by a

galvanic isolator.  Maybe someone can expound on that
theory.  If it's true, your 110VAC shore
power may
already be protected????Kent




From: "Alexandre
Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August

17, 2016 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic
Isolator
Installation



 









Good
morning Kent,



Our vessel are similar.



And if
you look at all the pictures I posted, especially
Part 2, you will see I trace the wires to the
automatic
switch above the genset as this
is where I remember Olivier
mentioned to
connect the Galvanic Isolator.



Therefore,
that box “intimidates” me… and I felt

logical to connect the Galvanic Isolator to the very
first
connection (which is the box on top
of the forward
bulkhead).

If I did not had that box,
then the first connection would
have been
the automatic switch above the genset.




As
Derick mentioned and was thinking the other night:
currently the 110 shore power is not
protected.

Not a
problem as I don’t use the 100 volt power.

By Connecting its earth to
the domino, it will be.


And the Big cubical white transformer will be after and
not
before the Galvanic Isolator.



Would love to hear back from Olivier on my
set-up




Alexandre




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On Tue, 8/16/16, Kent
Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht
Owners] illustration of the
Galvanic
Isolator Installation


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, August 16,
2016, 6:10 PM





 




















Hi Alex,Your #289 is fairly

close to my #243.

I'm not on the

boat, so writing this from memory.  If
I've left

something
out or am still clueless about something,

please

chime in.

 If Nikimat is like

Kristy, the 110AC shore
power will go directly to a box
on

the forward bulkhead, up
against the cockpit floor.  It

terminates at a 110AC 30A breaker there.
 From the
breaker,

it goes to your 110->220 AC transformer.
 On Kristy
the

transformer is a cubical box on the forward
end of the
shelf

above the generator.The converted 220AC

power output (which will be
the same frequency as the
input,

60Hz) then goes back to the
box on the bulkhead to a
female

plug marked "220 via
the transformer" (sorry,

it's inFrench and I can't remember it
exactly).
 To

use 110 shore power, you have to insert the
male plug in

this
receptacle. (For 220 shore power it has to be
plugged


into the other receptacle on the front of that box
marked


2"20AC Sur Le Quai".From either receptacle,

it then goes to the
automatic switch which chooses
generator

power over shore power.
 This is above the generator. I

don't remember how it is marked.  There
is another
box

near there marked 220AC that has the relays
for the Air

Conditioners
that turn on the 220AC raw water pump which


cools all three A/C units.From that
automatic

switch, all
220AC power goes to the 220 breakers in the


galley.

If you have a 220

inverter, power goes from it to the 220
panel
receptacles

and microwave breakers.  I think others have
a little

different set
up with the inverter.

In
a post a year or so

ago,
Olivier suggested that you could cover both 220AC
and

110AC
shore power by putting the galvanic isolator in
the

ground
wire that goes from the box on the forward

bulkhead

in the engine
room to the automatic switch above the

generator.  My understanding is that the
110->220

transformer
is an "isolation transformer", and

having it between the shore
power and the galvanic
isolator

is not a problem.  The
only other item that is between

shore power and the galvanic isolator with
this placement
is

the 110 breaker in the box on the forward
engine room

bulkhead.

Hop that


helpsKentSM243Kristy



Sent
from my

iPhone

On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:58

PM, Alexandre Uster von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:

































 














Good afternoon
Derick,







Thanks
for the compliment and also to pay attention to
the


details!!!







You are
totally correct, currently only the 220 volt is

connected.



Electricity is my weakest subject, so
building confidence!










I was
just thinking last night the same thing you

mentioned!





The 110 Volt earth should fit inside the
electric

“domino”.








My 110 volt doesn’t have
any shore plug… I need to
open

the box and look at what
color cable I have and see
where

they go.








Do you have both shore power?



If so what good options could be good to
have?







I assume
the 30 A 125 Volt?



http://www.frugal-mariner.com/images/img0565.png







Does any of you have other
plug for European, South


American, etc. Marinas?








Once I
take the pictures, i will make a post just for
it.







Thanks
again, sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K
#289 NIKIMAT



Club Nautico de San Juan,
Puerto Rico








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On Tue, 8/16/16, derickgates@comcast.net

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:







Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration
of the

Galvanic Isolator
Installation



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 1:23 PM











 









































Alexandre,



Nicely
illustrated, as always.




 Thank you for the
instructive pictures!




I note that the way
you have hooked



up the galvanic isolator,
only the 230V shore line is




isolated.  The 110V shore line is not (yet) protected.



 You can protect the 110V shore line using
the same



isolator by hooking it up
similarly simultaneously.




 Disconnect the 110V
ground from the common post in
the



box, and connect it to the input side of the
galvanic



isolator using the same
connection point as the 230V

shore



ground and you have done
it!  (I.e. Change your 2-wire




connector to a three-wire connector.)



That
way you are protected no matter



which
shore line you use!



Derick





GatesSM2K#400Currently on the hard in



Antigua
for hurricane season








































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