Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation


Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Mike,

This is the same I installed last week !!!
http://nikimat.com/galvanic_isolator.html

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Thu, 8/18/16, BT mike.k.johnson@btinternet.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator Installation
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 18, 2016, 6:16 AM


 










Hi
Alexandre,
We
purchased the following Galvanic Isolator:
http://www.bcet.co.uk/galvanic-isolator-products.html
The advantage of the gauge is that
the isolator can be tested and any stray voltages monitored
visually.  This one has also been fitted by other owners on
the forum who may also be able to verify its
performance.
Very best
wishes
Mike &
Peta
SM 2K
461Solitude
_____________________________
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] illustration
of the Galvanic Isolator Installation
To:
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



  Good
morning Mike,

This is a
great news!

Bill (SM#160,
Harmonie) is trying to obtain information on the originally
installed Scheiber transformer.

Out of curiosity: which make/model of Galvanic
Isolator did you purchase?

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Wed, 8/17/16, MICHAEL JOHNSON mike.k.johnson@btinternet.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] illustration of the Galvanic Isolator
Installation
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 7:35 PM


 











Hi
Alexandre,
From the
website it would appear to be an isolation
transformer.
 When I purchased my galvanic
isolator the support team
were very helpful
with technical information.  Suggest you

email them with specific questions about the isolation
transformer.
Mike
_____________________________
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]
illustration
of the Galvanic Isolator
Installation
To:
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>



  Thanks for
the reply Mike,

Do you
know if the 110-220
Volt transformer is for sure an

'isolation transformer?

Sincerely Alexandre


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On Wed, 8/17/16, BT mike.k.johnson@btinternet.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:


Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners]
illustration of the Galvanic Isolator

Installation
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 10:49 AM


 











Hi,
My
understanding is
that if an
'isolation

transformer' at the first point of entry
to the boat then a galvanic isolator us
not
required as
there is
no potentional earth
return circuit between
the
boat and shore

power.
http://www.bcet.co.uk/marine-isolation-transformers.html
it is the best option for preventing
galvanic corrosion but also the most
expensive
and

heaviest.
Regards
Mike
& Peta
SM 2K

461Solitude

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On Wed, Aug 17, 2016
at 3:27 PM +0100, "Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:


























 








Hi
again

Alex.I've
been told that the
110-220V
transformer is an isolated
transformer and
thus
doesn't need to be protected by a

galvanic isolator.  Maybe someone can expound
on that
theory.  If it's true, your
110VAC shore
power may

already be protected????Kent




From: "Alexandre

Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August

17, 2016 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht
Owners] illustration of the Galvanic

Isolator
Installation





 











Good
morning Kent,



Our
vessel are similar.




And if
you look at all the pictures I posted,
especially
Part 2, you will see I trace
the wires to the
automatic

switch above the genset as this
is where I
remember Olivier
mentioned to
connect the Galvanic Isolator.



Therefore,
that box
“intimidates” me… and I felt

logical to connect the Galvanic Isolator to
the very
first
connection
(which is the box on top
of the forward
bulkhead).

If I did not had that box,

then the first connection would
have
been
the automatic switch above the genset.





As
Derick
mentioned and was thinking the other night:

currently the 110 shore power is not

protected.

Not a
problem as I don’t use the 100 volt power.


By Connecting its
earth to
the domino, it will be.


And the
Big cubical white transformer will be after and
not
before the Galvanic
Isolator.



Would love to hear back
from Olivier on my
set-up





Alexandre






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On Tue, 8/16/16, Kent
Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:




Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht
Owners] illustration of the
Galvanic
Isolator
Installation


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, August
16,
2016, 6:10 PM





 





















Hi
Alex,Your #289 is fairly


close to my #243.


I'm not on the


boat, so writing this from memory.  If

I've left


something
out or am still clueless about
something,

please

chime in.

 If Nikimat is like

Kristy, the 110AC
shore
power will go directly to a box
on

the
forward bulkhead, up
against the cockpit
floor.  It

terminates
at a 110AC 30A breaker there.
 From the
breaker,


it goes to your 110->220 AC transformer.
 On Kristy
the

transformer is a cubical
box on the forward
end of the
shelf


above the generator.The converted 220AC


power output (which will be
the same frequency as the

input,

60Hz) then goes
back to the
box on the bulkhead to a
female


plug marked "220 via
the
transformer" (sorry,

it's inFrench and I can't remember
it
exactly).
 To

use 110 shore power, you
have to insert the
male plug in

this

receptacle. (For 220 shore power it has to be
plugged



into the other receptacle on the front of
that box
marked


2"20AC Sur Le
Quai".From either receptacle,

it then goes to the

automatic switch which chooses

generator

power over
shore power.
 This is above the generator.
I

don't remember
how it is marked.  There
is another
box


near there marked 220AC that has the relays

for the Air


Conditioners
that turn on the 220AC raw
water pump which


cools all three A/C units.From that
automatic


switch, all
220AC power goes to the 220
breakers in the


galley.


If you have a 220


inverter, power goes from it to the 220

panel
receptacles

and microwave breakers.  I think others
have
a little

different set
up with the
inverter.

In
a post a year or so

ago,
Olivier suggested that
you could cover both 220AC
and

110AC

shore power by putting the galvanic isolator in
the


ground
wire that goes from the box on the
forward

bulkhead

in the engine
room to the automatic switch above the

generator.  My
understanding is that the
110->220

transformer
is an "isolation transformer",
and

having it between
the shore
power and the galvanic
isolator


is not a problem.  The
only other item
that is between

shore
power and the galvanic isolator with
this
placement
is

the 110 breaker in the box on the forward
engine room

bulkhead.

Hop that



helpsKentSM243Kristy





Sent
from my

iPhone


On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:58


PM, Alexandre Uster von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:













































 


















Good afternoon

Derick,








Thanks
for the compliment and also to pay
attention to
the


details!!!







You are

totally correct, currently only the 220 volt is

connected.



Electricity is my weakest subject, so
building confidence!










I was
just thinking last
night the same thing you


mentioned!





The 110 Volt earth should fit inside the
electric


“domino”.








My 110 volt doesn’t have

any shore plug… I need to
open

the box and look at
what
color cable I have and see
where


they go.








Do you have both shore power?



If so what good options could be good to
have?









I
assume
the 30 A 125 Volt?



http://www.frugal-mariner.com/images/img0565.png







Does any of you have
other
plug for European, South



American, etc. Marinas?








Once I

take the pictures, i will make a post just for
it.








Thanks
again, sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K
#289 NIKIMAT



Club Nautico de San Juan,

Puerto Rico









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On Tue, 8/16/16, derickgates@comcast.net

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:










Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]
illustration
of the

Galvanic Isolator

Installation



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com



Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016, 1:23 PM












 





















































Alexandre,




Nicely
illustrated, as always.




 Thank you for the
instructive pictures!




I note that the way
you
have hooked



up the galvanic
isolator,
only the 230V shore line is




isolated.  The 110V shore
line is not (yet) protected.




 You can protect the 110V shore line using

the same



isolator by hooking it
up
similarly simultaneously.




 Disconnect the 110V
ground from the common post in
the



box, and connect it to
the input side of the
galvanic



isolator using the same

connection point as the 230V

shore




ground and you have
done
it!  (I.e. Change your 2-wire




connector to a three-wire
connector.)



That

way you are protected no matter




which
shore line you use!





Derick







GatesSM2K#400Currently on the hard in




Antigua
for hurricane season















































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