Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmission Coolers


Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Alexandre,

No chance of contaminating the oil. The cooler bolts to the outside of the transmission housing. When you remove it, there is no opening to the oil chamber. The cooling happens through the metal housing of the transmission.

Because there is no seal under the cooler there is no gasket there either. The only gasket needed is to seal the cover of the cooler to the cooler box itself.

Bill

On Aug 27, 2016, at 09:51, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thanks again Bill,

Would be easier if I had the hose already with the dimensions.

Anyway, when you removed the oil cooler, were there any chance that debris or what ever fall into the oil?
I have no idea how this is put together so my question might be stupid.
But since I just change the oil on the transmission, making sure I won’t have particle or anything falling in it.

Thanks again, Alexandre

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On Sat, 8/27/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@yahoo.com <mailto:greatketch@yahoo.com> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmission Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, August 27, 2016, 8:41 AM












Alexandre,
Very easy to remove. No issues.
Four bolts, and two hoses.
My hoses were in good shape, I
didn't replace them. They are standard reinforced
water hose, available from any marine supplier. One brand
suitable would be Shields Rubber, Series 135, Heavy Duty
Water Hose. Or you can use Trident 250/100 Flex Marine Wet
Exhaust and Water Hose, a bit tougher with a wire
reinforcement to support the hose through bends.
Measure the inside diameter.
That and the length will be all they need to
know.
Bill

On Aug 27, 2016, at 09:11,
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com>
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:
Thanks so much Bill,

Will order Monday.
Was it easy to
remove?

By any chance, did you find a
source for the hose? especially the hose with the purple
arrow…

Much appreciate!

Alexandre

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On Sat, 8/27/16,
Bill Kinney greatketch@yahoo.com <mailto:greatketch@yahoo.com> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmission Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday,
August 27, 2016, 8:03 AM












Alexandre,
That is exactly my setup.
The
cooler is
the part where the white hose comes in and the
black hose
leaves.
The
complete cooler with gasket
and bolts was US$300 from Foley
Engines, http://www.foleyengines.com <http://www.foleyengines.com/>
The same cooler is
used on all
the
Hurth transmissions, it is described on my invoice as a
“Hurth Cooler
Kit” with no part number listed.


Bill KinneySM
#160, HarmonieBlock Island, RI“Ships and men rot in
port."http://fetchinketch.net <http://fetchinketch.net/>






On Aug 27, 2016, at 08:54,
Alexandre Uster von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com>
[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:
Hello Bill,

That is what I was just
writing
to
Eric.

I feel I have the
same set-up as
you.
Mine says: ZF Hurth
HBW 250

If you can please
have a look:
http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses_7.jpg

Should be between the white
hose
and the
black hose.

How much was the new
cooler?
Do
you have the part
number?

Thanks in advance.
Sincerely,
Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 8/27/16,
Bill Kinney greatketch@yahoo.com <mailto:greatketch@yahoo.com> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Hurth
Transmission Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday,
August 27, 2016,
7:45 AM












Alexandre,
ZF and Hurth transmissions are
identical, but I
should be clear
which one I have.

My engine is the Volvo TMD22,
the
transmission
is a Hurth 250, later in
production known as a
ZF 25M. There is
no external oil
circulation on this
model. The standard
installation is only
air cooled from
the transmission oil through
the
case. The
seawater cooler
is an afterthought, just
bolted
to the
side of the case.
Heat from the transmission oil
is
conducted
through the
transmission case, then
through
the wall
of the cooler to
the seawater that flows
through
the
cooler on its way to the
engine. By cooling the oil,
the
seawater
cooler increases
the horsepower rating of the
transmission.
If
your transmission has an
external shell and
tube heat
exchanger, my modification
doesn’t
apply.
I got my
new cooler
from
Foley
Engines
in
Worcester, Massachusetts.
It sounds like
the one Eric is
talking about is
different than mine.


Bill KinneySM
#160, HarmonieBlock Island,
RI“Ships and men rot in
port."http://fetchinketch.net <http://fetchinketch.net/>






On Aug 27, 2016, at 07:37,
Alexandre Uster
von
Baar uster@rocketmail.com <mailto:uster@rocketmail.com>
[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:
Thanks for the
great
information
!!!

Does any one know if this is
the
same issue on
the ZF Transmission?

Also does any one know a
supplier
to get a
spare hose for the
transmission:
http://nikimat.com/volvo_tmd22p_missing_hoses.html
the purple one is
for the
transmission.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de
San
Juan, Puerto
Ric

--------------------------------------------
On Fri,
8/26/16, greatketch@yahoo.com <mailto:greatketch@yahoo.com> [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>>
wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht
Owners] Hurth
Transmission
Coolers
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday,
August
26, 2016,
9:09 PM












One of the things that Joel
told
me to
keep on my
maintenance schedule
was inspection of
the Hurth
Transmission cooler
for corrosion.
Many thanks to him
for
mentioning
it, it is something
I
would have
missed. Sure
enough, mine needed to be
replaced.
It's very much
a
crappy
design:
A cast
aluminum
box made part of the
engine
galvanic
electrical circuit.
Not surprising
that it has
issues. I have read rumors
that
there is a
stainless steel
version also available, but
that
would have
its own
problems.
Stainless has a much
lower thermal
conductivity
than
aluminum, so it
wouldn't
cool
as
efficiently.
I installed a new aluminum
cooler, and
modified
it to
accept a zinc anode.
You can
see
photos and some more
details
on our
blog here: An
engine project.


An
engine project. One
of the great
things
that came
to us when we
purchased this
boat was the experience of the
yacht broker who
arranged the
sale. Joel has a
vast
store&nbs...




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KinneyHarmonie, SM
#160Block Island,
RI"Men and
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