Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Thank you Eric and David for your reply.
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I will check as soon as I receive it. David, I still need to sponge in the info… Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/30/16, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:00 PM AEXANDRE, It is especially important to check with boats around you especially in a marina. It is quite possible tat stray current from a bad pedestal or surrounding boats can eat up your zincs. Fair Winds, Eric Sm376 Kimberlite ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity To: amelyachtowners@... > Good afternoon Kent, > > Glad you are joining this discussion, I just ordered it (like I > didn’t had enough part or tools onboard…) > I will definitely make sure to rinse it, etc. > > So with this silver electrode I will be able to check in the > water. > Does it matter they are vessel around? > > Thanks again! > Hope the eye is doing better… > > Alexandre > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 8/30/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@... > [amelyachtowners] wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity > To: amelyachtowners@... > Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 3:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's the one I have, Alex. Be sure > to rinse well in fresh water and allow to dry before storing > it. A booklet explaining its use comes with it.Kent > > Kent Robertsonkarkauai@... > voice/text > On Aug 30, 2016, > at 3:46 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... > [amelyachtowners] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Erik, > > I think I found it: > > http://www.boatzincs.com/corrosion-reference-electrode-specs.html > > > > Do you use it yourself? > > > > Sincerely, Alexandre > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 8/30/16, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... > [amelyachtowners] > wrote: > > > > Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity > > To: amelyachtowners@... > > Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 12:44 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The silver electrode is > > available from boatzincs.com it is about > $120- > > US. Fair > > WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super > > Maramu #376 > > From: amelyachtowners@... > > [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:34 > > PM > > To: > > amelyachtowners@... > > Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] > > Degraded continuity Alexandre, The number > > 900 refers to potential, which is also measured using a > > multi meter , but you also have to have a silver cathode > , > > expensive. It would probably be best for you to have a > > marine electrician perform that measurement if you are > not > > familiar with multi meters . It would not take them but > a > > few minutes. Just measuring that you have continuity > , you > > would just listen for the beep , the number will also > change > > from 0 to 1 or 1 to 0 ,I cannot remember , just listen > for > > the beep.Pat SM123 > > > > -----Original > > Message----- > > From: Alexandre Uster von Baar > > uster@... > > [amelyachtowners] > > To: amelyachtowners > > Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 11:39 am > > Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded > > continuity Good morning Pat, > > > > The way you describe it sounds > > very simple… at the next haul it will do that and you > > mentioned the number should be 900 (?) > > Do > > you have to check several items? quadrant then ground > copper > > strap in the bilge or 1 is enough? > > > > Thanks again. > > Sincerely, > > Alexandre > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 8/30/16, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... > > [amelyachtowners] > > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [Amel > > Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity > > To: amelyachtowners@... > > Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:11 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexandre, Its pretty simple, > > take a wire > > and clip it onto the quadrant > > where the ground wires > > connect , or to the > > copper ground strap in the bilge , then > > connect the wire to one side of a multi meter , > > say the > > black lead and then place the red > > lead on the zincs on your > > rudder . You of > > course have to set your meter to the > > continuity setting , its simple , have someone > > that knows > > how to use a meter show you or > > follow instructions provided > > with your > > meter.If you have continuity your meter will beep > > and the numbers change. While its vital that > > you have > > continuity , as I have just > > learned , that does not mean > > that you have > > adequate continuity. While you are in the > > water you can have the potential checked which > > gives you a > > better picture of the state of > > protection. Don't ask me > > to explain > > potential , I only have a foggy idea of what it > > means and could not put it into words. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Pat SM123 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original > > Message----- > > > > From: Alexandre Uster von Baar > > uster@... > > [amelyachtowners] > > > > To: amelyachtowners > > > > > > Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 10:43 > > am > > > > Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht > > Owners] Degraded continuity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning > > Pat, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for > > sharing the information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive my ignorance, > > but how do you measure the > > continuity… > > > > > > I hate to > > admit it, I didn’t know about it when I did the > > last haul out in March 2015, I then read on the > > forum and > > the owner manual. > > > > > > And will > > definitely want to do it next year. > > > > > > But how do you do it? > > (pictures rather than words would be > > so > > nice)… > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume you can only do it on land. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > Alexandre > > > > > > SM2K #289 NIKIMAT > > > > > > Club Nautico de San Juan, > > Puerto Rico > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > > > On Tue, > > 8/30/16, sailw32@... > > [amelyachtowners] > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded > > continuity > > > > > > To: amelyachtowners@... > > > > > > Date: > > Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 7:51 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before my boat went into back > > into the > > > > > > water yesterday , I checked for continuity > > between the > > > > > > copper strap and the zincs and I did have > > continuity. > > Later > > > > > > , I had two marine > > electricians on the boat and they > > checked > > > > > > the potential > > from the quadrant and found it to be only > > 560 > > > > > > , they tell me that they would expect to see > > about 900. > > 900 > > > > > > would insure that the zincs > > are protecting the metal > > parts > > > > > > of the boat. > > We can only speculate that the connection > > > > > > between the > > quadrant wire and the zincs have been degraded > > . > > > > > > There may not be enough contact between the > > zinc bolt > > and > > > > > > the strap inside the rudder > > , it would only be the > > > > > > threaded area of the bolt and the strap , and > > stainless > > is > > > > > > not the best metal as a > > conductor . Bottom line is that > > I > > > > > > need more > > zinc protection/contact. They suggested that > > we > > > > > > install a large zinc on the hull with two > > bronze bolts ( > > > > > > better conductivity )through the hull , wired > > directly > > to > > > > > > the strap in the bilge. 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