Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity


Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thank you Eric and David for your reply.
I will check as soon as I receive it.

David, I still need to sponge in the info…

Alexandre



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On Tue, 8/30/16, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:00 PM


 









AEXANDRE,
It is especially important to check with boats around
you especially in a marina.
It is quite possible tat stray current from a bad
pedestal or surrounding boats can eat up your zincs.
Fair Winds,
Eric 
Sm376 Kimberlite

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Original Message -----
From: "Alexandre
Uster von
Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded
continuity
To:
amelyachtowners@...

> Good afternoon Kent,
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> Glad you are joining this discussion,
I just ordered it (like I
> didn’t had
enough part or tools onboard…)
> I
will definitely make sure to rinse it, etc.
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> So with this silver
electrode I will be able to check in the
> water.
> Does it
matter they are vessel around?
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> Thanks again!
> Hope
the eye is doing better…
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> Alexandre
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> On Tue, 8/30/16, Kent Robertson
karkauai@... 
> [amelyachtowners]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 3:43 PM
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> That's the one I have, Alex.  Be
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allow to dry before storing
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booklet explaining its use comes with it.Kent
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Robertsonkarkauai@...
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http://www.boatzincs.com/corrosion-reference-electrode-specs.html
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yourself?
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> Sincerely,
Alexandre
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> On Tue, 8/30/16,
'sailormon' kimberlite@...
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> Subject: RE: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
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> To: amelyachtowners@...
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> Date: Tuesday,
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Amel Super
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#376  
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>  From:
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:34
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> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]
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> Degraded continuity
   Alexandre, The number
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measured using a
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multi meter , but you also have to have a silver cathode
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you to have a
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marine electrician perform that measurement  if you are
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take them but
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have continuity
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for the beep , the number will also
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change
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1 or 1 to 0 ,I cannot remember , just listen
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> -----Original
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> From: Alexandre Uster von Baar
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uster@...
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> To: amelyachtowners
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> Sent: Tue, Aug 30,
2016 11:39 am
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Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Degraded
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> continuity  Good
morning Pat,
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it sounds
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simple… at the next haul it will do that and you
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should be 900 (?)
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check several items? quadrant then ground
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> Thanks again.
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> Sincerely,
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> Alexandre
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> On Tue, 8/30/16,
Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@...
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> [amelyachtowners]
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> Subject: Re: [Amel
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> Yacht Owners] Degraded continuity
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> To:
amelyachtowners@...
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> Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:11
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take a wire
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clip it onto the quadrant
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the
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strap in the bilge , then
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meter ,
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the
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and then place the red
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your meter to the
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continuity setting , its simple , have someone
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show you or
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follow instructions provided
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will beep
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numbers change. While its vital that
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not mean
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have
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continuity. While you are in the
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> water you can have the potential checked
which
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a
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of the state of
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protection. Don't ask me
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what it
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could not put it into words.
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> From: Alexandre Uster von Baar
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> To: amelyachtowners
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ignorance,
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how do you measure the
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did the
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out in March 2015, I then read on the
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it?
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rather than words would be
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> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
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Juan,
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checked for continuity
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have
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continuity.
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Later
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marine
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electricians on the boat and they
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they would expect to see
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metal
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speculate that the connection
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degraded
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enough contact between the
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the
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bolt and the strap , and
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> not the best metal as a
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line is that
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protection/contact. They suggested that
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two
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(
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> better conductivity
)through the hull , wired
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inform the
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because you
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continuity , does
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contact/protection.
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}
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