Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] what type of product to put on bolt attaching the windlass to deck?
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Bill, James and Kent and thanks for your replies
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The Never Seez is on its way, I was going to keep it for high temperature applications. Kent, glad the waterproof grease is working for you. I think I have tea gel, if not will use waterproof grease. I am now stuck: can not unscrew the “things” that hold the brushes in the electric motor… There was lots of rust on the case, I am afraid they are stuck for good… Which is pretty sad as when I run out of brushes, will likely need a new motor… Which leads me to another question: How many of you and have changed the brushes on the windlass electric motor? How long did they last for those who anchor a lot. Thanks again for your input! Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 9/6/16, Bill greatketch@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] what type of product to put on bolt attaching the windlass to deck? To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2016, 10:04 AM If your intent is to take it apart every two or three years to clean salt build up from between the deck and the windlass housing as recommended by Lofrans, pretty much anything will probably work. I assume the deck plate is stainless, as well as the bolts, so in this case you are protecting against two issues, galvanic corrosion and "galling" or "cold welding". Most kinds of stainless steel can exist in two forms "active" and "passive" depending on the availability of free oxygen. These two forms are quite far apart on the galvanic scale. When stainless on stainless threads are wet it sets up a good environment for active and passive forms to exist close to each other and potentially cause issues. For this reason using a product that excludes water from the joint is a good idea. Lanocote, tef-gel, Never-Seez, or standard waterproof greases would all do this for a least a couple years. A simple way to think about stainless galling is that under very high pressures the protective surface oxide layer rubs off, the "pure" metal underneath "melts" into itself and the parts become welded together. In preventing this, in my experience, Lanocote is good, Tef-Gel and Never-Seez are better. Some greases are good, some not so much, at this. So... All told my recommendation would be either tef-gel or never-seez, and I'd know I could get them apart at any time in the future with no problems. On my boat I'd most likely use tef-gel only because it lives in my rigging tool bag, while the never-seez lives in the engine room! Bill KinneySM#160 HarmonieNarragansett Bay, RI, USA On Sep 6, 2016, at 09:37, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Good morning, To make story short, I removed the windlass, etc. What type of product would you put on the bolts attaching the windlass to the deck? Lanocote? Marine grease? one was extremely difficult to remove (4 hours) and i would prefer avoid that in the future… Thanks in advance, Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico #yiv8550925920 #yiv8550925920 -- #yiv8550925920ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv8550925920 #yiv8550925920ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv8550925920 #yiv8550925920ygrp-mkp #yiv8550925920hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv8550925920 #yiv8550925920ygrp-mkp #yiv8550925920ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv8550925920 #yiv8550925920ygrp-mkp .yiv8550925920ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv8550925920 #yiv8550925920ygrp-mkp .yiv8550925920ad p { margin:0;} #yiv8550925920 #yiv8550925920ygrp-mkp .yiv8550925920ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv8550925920 #yiv8550925920ygrp-sponsor #yiv8550925920ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv8550925920 #yiv8550925920ygrp-sponsor 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