Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse & marina

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Forgot to reply he 2nd question.
I tested the Capacitors they are:
9.2 instead of 10 and 38.1 instead of 40
Is that enough to cause a problem?
Alexandre



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On Tue, 6/27/17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse & marina
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 12:54 PM


 









I think Eric is right and I
think that the first thing I would do is replace the two
capacitors I mentioned earlier.
Best,
Bill Rouse
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at
11:30 AM, kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Alexandre,
with the switch In neutral position the AC unit is off.
I would suspect a short in the wiring somewhere. it could be
anywhere.
Good luck,
Eric


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [
amelyachtowners]"
Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2017
11:25 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]
Aft Cabin Air Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse
& marina
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

> I run the forward air
conditioning without problem.
>
> As Eric ask, I switch on the Aft Air
Conditioning with the
> switch in
neutral position (neither cold not hot) and right away
> the Ground Fault Interrupt (GFI) breaker
trip (as well as the
> marina).
> What does that tell you?
>
>
>
>
------------------------------ --------------
> On Tue, 6/27/17, kimberlite@...
[amelyachtowners]
> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air Conditioning
> Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse &
marina
> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com
> Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2017,
9:10 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Alexandre,
> there is a
switch and thermostat by each AC unit. when
> the switch is in neutral position does the
breaker still
> trip? if not does it trip
when the switch is in the heat
>
position?
> To discharge the capacitor
take a wire with insulated
> alligator
clips put one clip on the body of the pump or case
> and the other clip to a lug of the
capacitor.
> Fair winds,
> Eric
> ----- Original
Message -----
> From: "Alexandre
Uster von
> Baar uster@... [
amelyachtowners]"
> Date: Tuesday,
June 27, 2017 7:55 am
> Subject: Re:
[Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Air
>
Conditioning Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse & marina
> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com
>
> > Good
morning John, Mark,
> Eric and Francisco
and thank you for
> >
> your replies,
> >

> >
> Based on
what you wrote, I suspect a short and a dead
> > compressor…
>
>
> > Going to test the
Capacitors, but how to
> “discharge
them” prior
> > to testing?
>
> >
> > Eric, I did not
>
really understand the: “if the AC switch is off
> > at the thermostat does it still trip
the
> breaker?”
>
>
> >
> Thanks
in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------
--------------
> > On Mon, 6/26/17, kimberlite@...
> [amelyachtowners]
>
> wrote:
> >
>
> Subject: Re:
> [Amel Yacht Owners]
Aft Cabin Air Conditioning
> >
Tripping 220 Volt Panel Fuse &
>
marina
> > To:
> amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com
> > Date:
>
Monday, June 26, 2017, 9:24 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
Alexandre.
> > if the AC switch is off
at the thermostat
> does it still
> > trip the breaker?
> > The breaker on the AC panel side is
a
> quick blow
> >
circuit breaker, If there is
> a short it
will
> > trip before the
> diruptor. If the AC is on at the
> >
> thermostat and
the circuit still trips the breaker,
>
> Check the continuity of the compressor to
> ground. If
> > there
is a short to ground
> the compressor is
dead.
> > Fair Winds,
> > Eric
> >
sm 376
> >
> >
----- Original
> > Message -----
> > From:
>
"Alexandre
> > Uster von
> >
> Baar uster@... [
amelyachtowners]"
> > Date:
Monday, June 26, 2017 5:19 pm
> >
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin
>
Air
> > Conditioning Tripping 220
Volt
> Panel Fuse & marina
> > To:
> amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com
> >
> >
> Good afternoon,
> >
> >
> > >
Today, I hear the
> > fuse of the 220
Volt Panel tripping (the
> one
> > > behind the panel).
> > > I
> >
found out the
> fuse of the marina also
trip.
> > >
>
> > After running tests,
> > the
cause is the Aft Cabin Air
> Conditioning

> > > (which I have been
> using non stop for 9
>
> days).
> > >
> > > Running
>
> the salon does not trip anything.
>
> >
> > > What could
> be the cause?
> >
> How to diagnostic
> and solve the
issue?
> > >
>
> > Did I use too much
> > the
air conditioning?
> >
> > How come the
>
> Diruptor did not
> trip, but the
220 Volt Panel did?
> > >
> How come I trip the marina fuse?
> > >
>
> > > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
>
>
> Alexandre
>
> > SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
> > >
Port de Gustavia, Saint
>
Barthélémy,
> > FWI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
































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