Re: Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather sailing


Hi Ian,
lately I've been searching in our group messages for a topic on
heating system and I found one of your messages very interesting (see
below). I'm actually living in the carebbean, but planning to move to
South America (Argentina and Patagonia) next year. For this reason
I'd like to know more about your Ebersp├Ącher system and see if it's
possible to install one on my vessel (Euros 41). Can you give all the
details? I thank you in advance. Best Regards.
S/V Karyan
Euros 41 #166

--- In, "Ian Shepherd" <ocean53@...>

Hi Richard,

as you know I have taken my SM to Greenland, Labrador &
Newfoundland on more
than one occasion. I can't say that at any time that I was really
cold other
than once having to dive under the boat to cut a rope off the prop
in a sea
temperature of 4 degrees Centigrade!

The boat's insulation is pretty good, and I suffered very little
condensation. Maybe just a little on the inside of the hull at the
back of
the hanging lockers. I did have the luxury of an Eberspacher heater
which I
did use some mornings in Greenland. It did dry the boat well.
Cooking was
another good source of heat. I take it that you don't have the a/c
with reverse cycle capability? Useful on shore power or when
running the
genset. I never had any shore power up there though. Maybe you
could carry a
couple of electric fan heaters for use when the genset is running?

You might want to take some thermal long john's along. I found them
when I had to leave the sea berth to visit the cockpit for a quick
around or to trim sail. In fact I seem to rembember I slept in them
under way.

My cockpit has the side panels to the folding bimini plus the
vertical back
cover with the zipped door. This really helped keep the often gale
winds at bay, but when the wind was from aft, it did get draughty
due to the
poor seal between the back cover and the cockpit sides and the
seats. You
might want to add some overlap in this area to get a better seal.
the cockpit was quite snug. The disadvantage with this layout is
that if you
need to get to the winches, you need to unzip the door as they are
the enclosed area altogther.

I don't know if you are planning any winter sailing in the UK, but
I would
say that from April till the end of October, you will be pleasantly
surprised at our climate, though it might rain a bit! Out of the
Gulf Stream
you might feel a bit cooler in Scandinavia, though the longer hours
daylight may compensate a bit.

Experience on previous boats has found that the Tilley lamp can be
a good
source of heat, as well as portable camping butune heaters. They
produce some condensation though. I would get one of those battery
carbon monoxide monitors from one of your mega stores if you are
going to
use such devices. I picked one up for about $30 in Newfoundland
Canadian Tire. It did sound the alarm once when a side wind blew
the genset
exhaust into the cabin.

Have a super trip Richard. There are many great spots to visit
either side
of the English Channel, and when the sun shines in the Hebrides off
there are few places better.

Spare a thought as I swelter in the Red Sea this summer!


Ian Shepherd SM 414 'Crusader'

-------Original Message-------

From: closereach
Date: 01/05/06 04:16:01
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insulating our Amel for cool/cold

We're planning on cruising over to Ireland, the UK and Scandinavia
Next year. I have a couple of questions for those out cruising the
Higher latitudes.

1. What have other members done to insulate their boats to prevent
Minimize condensation while living aboard?

2. Our Amel doesn't have any forced air or natural draft heating
System. How have you heated your boat 24x7, specifically when
Making and living on the hook?

Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"

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