Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Problems hooking up new Bamar EJF 1.0 to new Boxtron E14s Any help appreciated!


Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Porter,

Not much help from us either: our genoa furler was switched to Reckmann by the previous owner and the trinquet is still on the belt driven bamar MEJ 1.02 (currently with a broken belt, waiting for a spare...). Also, the boxtron unit is an EM and it replaced an E14 one that is still there in the bow locker. When troubleshooting the failed furler motor, I found the boxtron only let out ~16V when the solenoids were energised. That didn't seem right, even though I didn't have a benchmark to compare. By chance the previous owner had left a spare EM boxtron that I installed and that let ~24V through. Still no rotation, and turned my attention to the belt, which I discovered was broken and tightly wrapped around the drive...
Anyway I don't know if or why the E14 was replaced by EM. The previous owner also left 2 spare E14S boxtron in the boat, in the packaging sent by Bamar. 

Sorry, it's a long story for not much precise information. 

It would be surprising that both motor units have the same defect but not impossible. Ideally you would bring one of them to a 54 nearby and hook it up to their boxtron box to isolate the fault. Have you tried energising the motor directly with 24V, with the expectation it should just rotate?

Our bow locker is pretty damp too, i will check those bolts. So are our other lockers when water runs on deck.  What grease do you us on the gaskets? Silicon I presume ?


Thanks 
Thomas 

Garulfo
Amel 54 #122
Graciosa, Canary Islands, Spain


On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 21:54, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Excellent Ideas.  I think I am going to hangout in there during a rainstorm and see what we get. 
Thank you both!

Porter


Porter McRoberts

S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
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On Nov 7, 2017, at 4:57 PM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi Porter;
 
I cannot help much with the Bamar issue as we are still using the belt driven units and hoping to get a few more years out of them.
 
As far as the bow locker, ours is very dry and no sign of humidity at all. I'm always pleasantly surprised to open the bow locker and smell, what seems to be, fresh fiberglass resin smell. When we purchased her, Olivier did the survey and noticed that some moisture had previously come in from the mounting bolts of the anchor plate in the front of the locker. We did tighten these bolts and have not seen any moisture since. However, even then, we never noticed any kind of moisture or any smell of humidity.
 
I would check the anchor plate bolts in the front and possibly the windlass deck switches for any sign of moisture penetration.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Problems hooking up new Bamar EJF 1.0 to new Boxtron E14s Any help appreciated!

Dear Amelians, Likely 54ians,


After the prescribed repeat frustrations with the OEM Bamar “Magic” EJFs, I finally decided to make the switch to new Bamar direct drive EJF 1.0s.

They are newly installed on the Foc and Trinquet, forestay and inner forestay.  Wires run below decks to the bow locker and to 2 new E14 Boxtrons.  

24v feed is good to both.  power from both (Foc and Trinquet) furling switches is good.

Today I worked with Nance and Underwood here in fort lauderdale as well as a stumped rigging marine electrician who hooked up the E14s as they should.  

We find the following:  with E14 and trinket furling switch a click in the furler motor housing, but no rotation.  If we hook up same wiring to an old and existing EM Boxtron, furler works!

Dispite much rewiring, no EJF rotation with the E14.  This occurs with both the new furlers.  

The electrician is stumped.  Bamar NA no return phone call.

Any thoughts?  

Very appreciated.



Second question:  is the bow locker always very humid?  I’ve re-greased the gasket and tightened the screws.  still seems very humid.  Anyone installed a ventilation fan?



Thanks again.  

Porter


Porter McRoberts
954 684 8586c
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
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