Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 50 review

Courtney Gorman

Guys when a company is run by one man with a vision you get a Super Maramu.  When a new president or CEO comes along you get a change, ALWAYS they want to make their own mark!  The 50 is that mark.  The leadership is now different as are their goals.  Things will not go back under the present leadership so we need to accept this and make the BEST of it.  Be positive and supportive if you have the opportunity but you don’t HAVE to buy a 50
sv Trippin 

On Apr 5, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi Ian and Judy,

Note my last sentence." However I guess the yard has assessed the market and that's where they think its going" I hope you are not suggesting that to survive they must drop their standards to that of the mass production Beneteau, Bavaria etc that creak and groan their way through offshore seaways..

Oyster died through the keel falling off one 85 foot luxury boat and their refusal to listen to the owners concerns over two yeas as the noises from below increased. 

In the 50 I saw an Amel  quality build for the inshore market, but not a boat for shorthanded world cruising. My hope expressed was that Amel not abandon the world cruising market. In that hope I looked for a smaller boat than the 55 which in comparison to the SM is huge. A boat the size of the SM would fill the slot well and obviously be less expensive without abandoning the quality build. However I will again finish with:  "However I guess the yard has assessed the market and that's where they think its going".

Kind Regards


SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 06 April 2018 at 00:16 "Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:




Hi Jean and Danny,

 I think Jean's points are well made. Unfortunately ( or fortunately for many) the relative costs per foot of a yacht have come down significantly with the advent of industrial production such as that of Bavaria, Hanse etc. I suspect that Amel would now struggle to build a yacht to an SM standard  at a price that allows it  to find a steady market, hence the move to a marine hopper .

 From a purely selfish point of view " whatever floats your boat " ie I am delighted if Amel has found a market which allows them to prosper ( and thus provide me with spares for ever ).

 Few quality and bespoke builders last for ever--see Oyster at the moment.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza, Greece

From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: 01 April 2018 19:46:56
To: 'Jean Boucharlat' jean.boucharlat@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 50 review

Hi Jean,
We visited the yard in July last year and they were preparing to launch the first 50. We were given a full tour of the boat (and the yard). In my opinion it is unquestionably not designed for a couple to sail round the world, for all the reasons you mention.
We asked the Amel people and the reply was that the target market was for Amel owners who love the brand but have done with off shore. It is a beautiful example of what I call a marina hopper. Luxurious accommodation. Huge saloon for entertainment. Luxury everywhere you look. No doubt it is a market that will meet many peoples desires. However I hope they keep building the 55 or the world will lose the best shorthanded ocean going brand available. Since I could never afford the 55 I would like them to remember the thousands of owners of ageing amels who would love an affordable (even pre owned) option. It has to be an ever lasting market. How about an updated SM or 54. However I guess the yard has assessed the market and that's where they think its going.
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

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On 1 Apr 2018 9:46 p.m., "'Jean Boucha rlat' jean.boucharlat@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



Dear All,


This is my take on the new Amel 50:


I am yet to read the article in Yachting World but would agree very much with everything Pip Hare is reported to have said. She is an extremely competent and courageous sailor but, unfortunately, she is not the right person to assess a cruising boat.


As to my credentials: over the years I have owned 4 boats, two of them bought new from Amel, a Maramu in October 1981 and a SM in July 1998. Both were the best boats I ever owned or sailed on and I am a great fan of the Amel philosophy. The basic tenet of this philosophy is that a boat should take good care of whoever is on board. This breaks down into two components, at sea, be safe and reasonably comfortable, at anchor, be comfortable and relatively easy to maintain and, in both situations be, as much as possible, not dependent on shore facilities.


Now, twice I went to La Rochelle to be given a tour of the new 50 and I came out saying to the yard management that I would not buy one. I agre e that she is very well built, like all past Amels, and she is more “modern” in many respects than her predecessors, but, in reality, she is a luxurious Beneteau, good for extended week-end sailing but not much more. Why? Here are my gripes:


1) Rig: she is a singlesticker, not a good choice for any cruising boat over 45 feet. One loses too much in terms of versatility of sail combinations. On top of it she has a self-tacking staysail. Ridiculous!


2) Cockpit: not one single locker in the cockpit, where the SM had 3. When at sea if one needs a rope, a shackle, a bucket, a block, anything, one has to fetch them from the lazarette. Unacceptabl e! Henri Amel was adamant that anyone could sail his boats without ever having to leave the safety of the cockpit.


3) Hull shape: in line with current architects thinking (could it be a fad?), the 50 has a very wide stern and two side rudders. No skegs, very exposed both to flotsam and to submerged lines particularly in Med style marina moorings. Also, maneuverability in reverse suffers considerably even with a bow-thruster.


4) Layout:

- Cabins: too many of them, on a 50 footer you don’t need 3 cabins and you certainly do not need two of them with centerline berths. Here again, Henri Amel considered that his boats should not be dormitories but should accommodate, on any tack, about 3 people sleeping plus one on watch. On the 50, at sea, only the rear cabin center berth can realistically be used. Do you want to have to sleep there with anyone else than your wife or girl friend?

- Saloon: wide and beautiful at anchor, wide and treacherous at sea. Not one single handhold to help you keep your balance.

- Kitchen: now located in the passageway to the rear cabin. This does away with the most comfortable berth at sea, puts the cook in a hot and stuffy area at a distance from the cockpit and makes for an athwart-ships drawer-fridge that will not open on port tack and will spill all of its contents on starboard tack.

- Sump: was unpleasant but relatively easy to access on Maramu’s and SM’s, became more awkward on the 54 and is well nigh impossible on the 50. Quite a few issues looming down there in the dark!


OK, so I am an old curmudgeon, but I loved my Amel’s, admired the yard and made friends with many terrific people there . Over the past 10 years, starting with the 55, sadly I have seen the yard drifting away from the principles established by Henri Amel. I consider this a terrible loss to the cruising community as I do not know of any other yard in the world building any boat coming close to the concept ant the quality of the Amel’s of the past.


Requiescat in pace,


Jean Boucharlat




From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: samedi 31 mars 2018 1 3:45
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 50 review



Hi All,


 There is a great review of the Amel 50 in April's Yachting World--she's on the front cover as well.


The reviewer is Pip Hare. We first met Pip in Piriapolis , Uruguay, where she had sailed two handed in The Shed,  an Oyster 37 which had seen better days. She decided to do the OSTAR, the single-handed transatlantic race, so she sailed back singlehanded from Uruguay to UK and set off on the race. Somewhere to the west of Ireland a lower shroud parted. Mast swaying,  she nursed the boat back to a bay on the south cost of Ireland where her father rowed out to her with a new stay. She wasn't allowed shore assistance beyond that ,so she had to rerig the boat herself . She set off in pursuit of her class who by now had 2-3 days lead on her. She overhauled most of them.

 Pip went on to compete  successfully in those crazy 30 footers which the French love, on races like the Route du Rhum and is probably at her happiest single handed in mid-Atlantic up to her waist in cold sea water, in the dark,  in the cockpit having just broached while trying to maintain 17 knots when her competitors have eased back to 10.


 So, you might wonder what on earth she would make of the Amel 50.  It was December,  dark, wet and windy off La Rochelle. She confesses that did feel overdressed sitting in the cockpit in her salopettes and seaboots ( remember them ?) with warmth rising from the saloon together with the aroma of bread and fresh coffee...


 Her conclusion:  " I can't sit on the fence about the Amel 50; it's a brilliant boat.........I arrived with some heavy preconceptions, perhaps about as much as the kind of sailor I am as the kind of boat I would be sailing. I was treated to the full Amel experience.... but if you take away the fine food, endless expressos and crisp white bed linen, the Amel still shines. It sails well, it is beautifully built and it made me smile. I left surprised and ever so slightly in love "


 Praise indeed ! I think the La Rochelle yard is going to be very busy.


 Ian and Judy,

 Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza, Greece






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