Re: Jordan Drogue

eric freedman


Before deciding on the Jordan for my first offshore boat I read the DDDB Drag Device Data book about sea anchors and drogues. My conclusion was to go with the Jordan.

I just pulled out the book and found a quote that I remembered from a boat using a 18 foot para anchor in

Force 9-10 winds . “as each monster wave approached. Celtic would back up like a retreating Muhammed Ali against a charging  Joe Frazier and let the impact roll under her. Huge waves would break on us and roll over the deck darkening the cabin with its green water. (page 3.1.45)


My other concern was that on a sea anchor you are going backwards. I don’t know what effect that would have on the rudder over an extended period of time.

I recall that quote to this day .


If you look at article below   the video in the attached link towards the middle of the article you will see the coast guard rescue of a few sailors from an upturned Swan about 160 miles closer to land than we were . If you look carefully you will see the men in the water in the night, At 2 minutes 30 seconds you will see the coast guard returning to retrieve the deceased captain. The chopper was hovering at 100 feet and you will see the chopper almost going into that wave. The boat was closer to shore so the winds and the wave heights were less than what we encountered..

I have now had the drogue out 3 times on 2 different boats and I hope it just sits in its bag and dies of green mold.


I have fabricated a wood block that bolts over the stern cleats so no more problem of ripping the cones there.


In the future, I plan on moving the SB antenna a few feet forward and then I can run the drogue bridle outside the backstays and that will solve all my issues.


Fair Winds


Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



From: [] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Jordan Drogue


Hi Danny,

I don’t recall numerous problems with the Jordan the few times I have launched it. I believe with a bow mounted drag device, if a big wave is breaking you are going to get pooped..

How did your sea anchor work in Hurricane conditions?

Fair Winds


Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



From: [] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Jordan Drogue


Hi Eric,

I know you believe in the drogue method of storm tactics but your description of your boat preparation and handling systems confirms my negativity to the system. The number of things to potentially go wrong is scary. Also It places the boat stern on to the breaking seas and that results in those seas breaking into the boat and filling the cockpit with water. I remember you saying that the crew in the cockpit was up to their armpits in water. I will stay with my bow deployed sea anchor. The front facing parts of the boat are designed to take attacks by the sea which the stern is not. (In my opinion.)

Kind Regards


SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 28 February 2019 at 17:35 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:


With respect to the Jordan Drogue it is now available in spectra—that is the way to go. It was originally developed by Don Jordan and manufactured by Dave Pelissier of Ace Sailmakers in Connecticut—I would order it from him  and only him.

There are many people now selling the drogue and a few that I have seen are shoddy.


If you are feeling really nautical you can buy the kit from him with pre-assembled cones and weave it together yourself.  If you do not get it from Ace, Make sure that the forward facing edge of the cones have seams on them otherwise they will shred after many hours in the water. See above photo.



When I had Kimberlite built I had Amel Super reinforce the stern cleats. At the end of my bridles I also have large loops spliced into them.

To keep from putting strain on one back stay (you only will have to adjust one leg)  I had a machine shop make me a titanium Humongous snatch block for 1 ½ inch line. Which I will fasten to a few places on the deck fittings to square the boat to the waves.


You might also want to have the vinyl covering for the cockpit (weather cloths) zippers modified. I had my sailmaker put loops on either side of the zipper every foot and a half so if the zipper starts coming apart you can tie it back together.


When bringing in the drogue you will need something bolted to the stern chocks as the drogue wants to get caught on it and tear the cones.

The drogue has to be tailed by hand as it is  too big for the winch.

Careful not to tear the cones on the winch line stripper.


Lastly, the winch motor will cut out after about 4 minutes due to thermal overload. Either bring in the drogue a bit, wait for the motor to cool off and proceed or wait till the overload device trips and then wait 5 minutes and it will work again.


I hope it never leaves your port locker.

Fair Winds


Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


From: carpathia3 via [mailto:carpathia3@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 10:23 AM
To: eric freedman
Subject: Private: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Gearbox greasing


Hi Eric,

Thank you for your response, very clear! And yes, I would like to attend to the shaft as well... Just not sure I will be able to take it out. I may have to construct a tool like Jose's to remove it. Mine has probably never been serviced in 19 years so I expect the worst...

I know you are also a big fan of the Jordan drogue and I am quite interested in having one on Carpathia. Can I ask you for your latest advice on how to fit it well with the backstays, and what you found the best setup on the SM. Any picture would help too...

Many thanks,





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