Re: Mainsail jammed when furling on A54

ngtnewington Newington

I have found that there is a tendency for the top batten to jam when unfurling. That is setting the sail.
I have also noted that having the kicker on hard, ie tension on the leech really helps. To that end I recommend lashing the clew down hard. In addition it is critical to have outhaul tension both furling and setting the sail.
One final note;
I have no doubt that the vertical battens are the source of the problem. Without would be a breeze but then no roach....!!

Amelia anchored Pantelli, Leros Greece
AML 54-019.

On 24 Aug 2020, at 17:00, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

My guess is that when you inspect the battens you will find some permanently twisted and possibly cracked. BTW, I am totally 100% against battens, and they will be most dangerous when you really get into trouble and have to furl because of bad conditions. 

I believe that if you must have battens that you very carefully and correctly furl and unfurl each time, that you never get yourself in emergency conditions, and that you inspect the battens at least annually then replace any batten that is found twisted or cracked. 

Did I say that I am against battens for an Amel being used as a cruising boat? Of course, if you are using your Amel to race, go for it.
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 8:04 AM Courtney Gorman via <> wrote:
Hi David it the problem is occuring only when slightly off the wind try pointing into the wind before furling that may help.  I've had similar issues with both the main and mizzen it seems to come and go keeping the sheet tight helps pull down the boom keeping the sail vertically tight while furling I think this helps also

-----Original Message-----
From: David Crisp <david@...>
Sent: Mon, Aug 24, 2020 8:50 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Mainsail jammed when furling on A54


It's confession time and a request for advice/tips.

A week ago, for the first time ever I managed to jam the mainsail when furling it (somewhere around the first batten).  It was impossible to free the sail there and then but fortunately I was able to find shelter nearby, anchor, go up the mast and work it loose by hand.  At the time I put this down to lack of attention and over confidence and cursed myself. 
Two days later after a good sail upwind (15-20kts apparent), I started furling the main, this time watching VERY carefully, I saw creases appearing around the first batten so unfurled and tried again with the same result.  Being really nervous of a repeat episode I unfurled and carried on sailing and finally furled, without a problem, when in sheltered water. In all cases I was going upwind, maybe 10-30deg off the wind.

I'll confess this incident has been a big knock to my confidence, having a jammed, partly furled main in heavy weather is a worrying thought. I previously had a Super Maramu and never once experienced any problem like this, not even a hint of it.  Is the critical difference the vertical battens in the 54's main? 
Does anyone else have experience like this, more importantly can anyone offer advice/tips on furling the main on an A54 please.

David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58

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