Re: [Amel] New Sails for Sharki 104

Jean Boucharlat

To the moderator and all members of this group

I think that Dave Benjamin, whom I have never met, should be strongly
advised to refrain from peddling his sails on this group site.

This is not the first time he has done it.

I have no idea whether his sails are good, bad or indifferent but I find it
very disturbing to be exposed to his insidious commercials in this Amel
Owners Group that is only intended for friendly and disinterested exchanges
of information between members.

All comments are welcomed (except from Dave Benjamin himself).

Jean Boucharlat
(Formerly SM 232)

[] On Behalf Of Dave Benjamin
Sent: vendredi 31 juillet 2009 02:25
Subject: Re: [Amel] New Sails for Sharki 104

Thanks for the kind words. I wish we could have been of service. One thing
has changed since you got your quote from us. We now have an alliance with
Hyde Sails for our manufacturing and we are offering Hyde branded sails in
the local market. I would encourage any Amel owners desiring top quality
cruising sails at a great price to contact us for a quote. Hyde offers some
real advantages over the competition.

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Mr D < <>
From: Mr D < <> >
Subject: Re: [Amel] New Sails for Sharki 104
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 1:50 PM

I agree with Dave. I did a fair amount of shopping around, including Daves'
company which had a very competitive deal. I ended up getting my sails done
in May of this year for 6,938 USD incl CA tax from UK-Halsey San Francisco.
Here is the breakdown FYI for anyone looking to get new sails.


Amel 39 Ketch Powerhead II Mainsail, Challenge 9.18

oz Dacron, Blue Water Finish, Attached Foot, 4 RBS

Battens, Top 2 Battens Full-Length, Sailman M10

Batten Receptacles & Joints, 3 Reefs, Draft Stripes,

Leech Cord, Telltales, Cunningham, Sail Bag

1 2,183.00 2,183.00T


Amel 39 Ketch 120% Roller Furling Passagemaker

Genoa, Challenge 8.18 oz Dacron, UV Sunbrella

Suncover, Padded Luff, Blue Water Finish, Leech and

Foot Chords, Draft Stripes, Telltale Window, Sail Bag

1 2,438.00 2,438.00T


Amel 39 Ketch Powerhead I Mizzen, Challenge 8.18 oz

Dacron, Blue Water Finish, 4 RBS Battens, Top Batten

Full-Length, 1 Reef, Draft Stripes, Leech Cord,

Telltales, Cunningham, Sail Bag

1 784.00 784.00T


ATN Gale Sail, 100sf 1 975.00 975.00T


Hope this helps

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, Dave Benjamin <dave_benjamin@ ...>

You mention the sails are flat and have little shape. That's a trademark
of certain lofts that don't have the ability to produce for the industry and
sell direct. Amel owners that want sails that will perform well in a variety
of conditions are better served by dealing with a real sailmaker.

You should also know that many of these sails are made with second quality
or other manufacturer rejected cloth. That's why they can sell them so
cheaply. In many cases I see sails like these being sold for less than what
it cost just to buy top quality material.

The bitterness of poor quality outlasts the sweetness of a cheap price.
--- On Sat, 5/16/09, etske <amel.sharki. charmedii@ ...> wrote:
From: etske <amel.sharki. charmedii@ ...>
Subject: [Amel] New Sails for Sharki 104
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 2:59 AM
Dear all,
Since our sails were still the original ones from 1984 we decided to go
for new ones. After lots of offers we choose Leesails in Hong Kong. They
guaranteed us that they made sails for a Sharki before. We had discussions
about several options I wanted (all headsails with foamstrip and UV strip,
top batten full, original reefing system with steel wire reinforcing, etc.)

They all did this and for an amazing price. Mizzen, Main, Storm Jib,
Furling Jib, Furling Genoa II, Furling Genoa I, alltogether for 6020 US
(incl. P&P)!!!!

So you try to find the hook. Sails arrived before the agreed date and all
in good order. All sails were tested in the past two weeks and I can't find
anything that's not 100% as agreed upon. Main and Mizzen are both flat
without loosing there shape, GI is huge and has the rounding where it should
be. GII is flat as an high aspect (she does 30 upwind now), Jib we used in a
full gale with main down and mizzen up. After three hours with forces up to
10 bft all was perfect OK.

I would advice if asked to go there if you need new sails.
Cheers and fair winds, Hajé
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