Re: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Giovanni TESTA

Hi Richard and Joan,
thanks for the suggestions for heavy weather. Only a question, how do you fasten " the wheel to windward" heaving to ?
Thanks and..Buon Vento !
Giovanni TESTA

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:45 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Kent, you are new at this. There are a lot of us that have done this trip for years. I know the Bahama's look like an easy way, they are NOT>> Once you get our of Norfolk the winds normally will take you to Bermuda anyway.. Take advantage of that go east.. When you depart from Bermuda head for 60 degs as you go south. DON't be tricked into a straight line course to St. Martin.. you head a bit east and when the winds come on your port let them carry you to St. Martin.. Bring lots of fuel cans as there will be wind or NONE... Eric carries lots of fuel so do we. You'll need it.. Also be sure to get your cook gas cans filled before to take off. USE Herb and be sure to call in every day he HATES people that don't.. in fact he worries to death if you don't.. Try hoving two from time to time before you need too. It works. Back wind the shortened headsail, bring the main on center shorten it up to about a #3 reef with a short head sail bring
the wheel to windward and tie off the wheel with the mizzen rolled up. She'll sit there and all will be well. We have done it in several big nor'easter and two tropical blows.. It works.. even 35 foot seas. If you find yourself running before the wind we lay out a big 300 foot u shaped warp of 3/4 line to slow the boat and keep her steady so the auto pilot doesn't kill itself. You've got one of the be sea going boats in the world. Don't panic and you'll do just fine.
Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209 in Annapolis.

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Kent Robertson <> wrote:

From: Kent Robertson <>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:36 PM

Thanks a bunch John. That's what I needed to hear. All I have to do now is get my SSB working for weather faxes and communications, and get my nerve up enough to go to sea for 12 days. I'll probably have to get some professional crew since none of my friends are up for that kind of trip yet. I think I'll be OK with it if I have reliable weather info.

Where are you getting your shoulder worked on? I'm an anesthesiologist in North Carolina. Ask for an interscalene block and catheter for postop pain' ll make you pretty much pain free for 2-3 days after surgery. Only other advice on shoulder surgery is to do your PT religiously no matter what. Worst thing that can happen is to limit your movement enough that you get a frozen shoulder.

Good luck with that.

My phone number is 828 234 6819 (cell). I may give you a call in a week or two if I haven't made my mind up yet.

Thanks again,


--- On Tue, 9/8/09, john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: "Amel YAHOO GROUP" <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:15 PM

Kent, I've done that trip many times over the last 35 years. Don't even think about going the gentlemens route. Its a real tough way to go. You will spend a lot of time waiting for weather, like months, And motoring most of the time into big seas. Bite the bullet,head to Bermuda to get your easting in, and then head for St, Martin's. You'l be there in 12 days. If you go to the Virgins first you will have a 80 mile bash to windward to get to St, Martin's, Better to pick up the Virgins on the way back. Also stop in the Bahamas on the way back, they are warm and beautiful in the springtime but are terrible in the winter. You should also consider the Caribbean 1500. They leave from Hampton Va, on the 2nd of Nov. Well organized with weather routing etc. I wouldn't leave the Chesapeake before the first week in Nov.{ think hurricane.} Going to Savannah is good because they don't get hurricanes, but you are going west when you want to go east. The Gentlemens

guide is a wonderful book, I have read it twice. He's a great writer. I'm going to the States for a shoulder opperation this week so will have plenty of time to talk while recovering. E-mail me your phone no. if you need any more help.symoondog@ John "moon Dog" sm248

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

From: karkauai@yahoo. com

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:27:36 +0000

Subject: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Hi, all,

I'm making plans for the trip South from the Chesapeake to the Caribbean and thought I'd ask for some advice. I've done a few 3-5 day offshore trips across the Gulf and up the coast, but haven't tackled the trip South yet. From what I've read a lot of people sail out to Bermuda, then South to avoid the upwind beat from the Bahamas down the chain, but I still don't have my SSB working (or have a good way to get weather that far offshore) I'm working on that, but haven't had much luck yet. I have a week in Oct that I could take her down to Savannah, then a month from mid Nov to mid Dec. I've ordered the book "A Gentleman's Guide to Passages South", but wanted some advice from folks who've been there and done that. Just how "bad" are the two approaches to getting to the BVI from the E Coast?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.


"Kristy" SM 243

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