Re: Heaving to a Ketch


After more than 40 000 m plus sailing around the world I never faced such situations since the 1970’s . Today with satellite and SSB Communications systems we have enough data from different weather forecast sources in order never to be in such bad weather situations . In the last 20 years the maximum wind we had was 40 kt with 50 kt gusts and 30 ft waves …. And with our Amel and our 2 pilots it was not a problem . I think today there is 0 risk to face a hurricane if you sail safely . of course you can face sometimes in channels some crazy winds like 80kt plus of Bora in Croatian islands but the sea is never more than 1 meter or 2 so it is not a real problem . The big storm of 120 kt in Corsica last summer never brought more than 5 meters waves after the strongest wind passage so except if you were at anchor this was not a problem . In the Indian Ocean you can face sometimes difficult conditions but always manageable . In the North Atlantic Ocean you must anticipate the low pressures passage when you come back to Europe from West Indies but it is again very clear with weather forecasts . From Pasqua islands to Hawaii there is no difficulties in the pacific same as South Africa if you are reasonable with timing of crossing weather forecasts and current . If bad weather stay in harbour and wait for a good window .
So don’t be afraid by such crazy situations it is no more for us if you are reasonable . When I was young I had the opportunity to face big storms without modern autopilots or floating anchors systems etc … I prefer to keep all this in memory and continue to sail safely around the world . Enjoy your navigations and don’t worry 

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Le 12 janv. 2023 à 22:28, Eric Freedman <kimberlite.ef@...> a écrit :

I would have to disagree with him.

The Jordan series drogue is the only device that was tested in a wave tank by the Coast Guard and passed.

This is us in a hurricane 100+ knot winds and 60 foot breaking waves,

Also look at the link in the story. The video shows a Swan about 150 miles east of us rescued by the coast guard- the skipper died.


Fair Winds


Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



From: On Behalf Of Paul Harries via
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heaving to a Ketch


I feel inadequate in that I have only experienced really foul weather once;-force 9 off Gibralatar 30 years ago with heavy seas, we ran and still got pooped.
I have obviously practiced heaving to in non severe weather, but feel it inadequate practice for an emergency situation as  the balance of theany boat will change as wind increases.

Today I watched an interesting video on the subject:

Three comments really hit me:
1) As wind increases, then due to windage to heave to more sail will be required aft and less forward, with a ketch this might mean a small amount of mizzen only! I am interested in what really happens with an Amel ketch in heavy seas! 
2) The speaker was very much against drogues preferring a sea anchor, I certainly get his point about lack of attachment points at the stern  (unless you own Kimberlite) ,I do wonder whether the center cockpit design of Amels might change the pros and cons of a drogue relative to a sea anchor
3) Rudder control lines; never heard about using them on an Amel, would be interested in comments.

I have previously read the several posts on the forum regarding drogues on the forum including the following:

I have partially Heavy weather sailing by Peter Bruce and Storm Tactics Handbook by Pardey 
I have ordered the following book: Drag Device Data Base  by Victor Shane, it would be interesting though to have a database of how Amels perform with drogues and sea anchors.

I am sure this subject is of interest to all forum members, perhaps it might be a good subject for a forum meeting.
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer

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