Steve,
I store mine in the port cockpit locker all the way forward in the original
bag. Next to it I have the chafe gear.
I packed it in such a way that the bridle is on top and then I drop in the
drogue like packing a parachute.. Also on the top is the chain. So I hook
up the bridle, flake the drogue on the aft cabin top and drop the chain in
the water. I would not suggest putting it anywhere else as it would be
difficult to get out of any other locker. The only problem I encountered is
if you try to make the bridle shorten on one side it puts strain on the
mizzen back stays. Before I leave St Martin I will have a solution for that.
The drogue must be inside the stays , otherwise you will take out the ssb
antenna.
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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From: amelyachtowners@...
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Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:40 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heavy Weather
Thanks Eric,
Based on your earlier accounts and recommendations, I bought a Jordan series
drogue before we left on the 2009 Caribbean 1500. Like the life raft, hoping
we
never have to use it, but well worth the peace-of-mind.
The only downside I've found is finding the storage space for it when not
offshore. We have it flaked and packed in 2 plastic tubs, but they're heavy
and
bulky. Since arriving in Grenada, we were fortunate to have friends who can
store it for us ashore. I suppose it's not a lot of use if it isn't on the
boat
when you need it, but if we're clumsy enough to get caught in that strong a
gale
sailing between Caribbean islands, then we probably shouldn't be cruising
anyway.
Steve
Summer Love SM340
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Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 12:57:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heavy Weather
Steve,
The initial problem with retrieving the drogue was that the primary winch
motors are not rated for continuous duty. After overheating the motor a few
times, I just waited about 1 minute every 4 minutes and it then did not
shut down the motor.
The other problem is that the initial part of the drogue is about 1 ¼
inches and then you have the cones to deal with. The drogue must be hand
tailed, one person on the button and another on the winch, making sure you
do not catch the parachutes on the tailing horn and ripping the chutes as
the line is too large to be self tailed. Thirdly, you need another person on
the stern guiding the drogue away from the chock as it will also tear the
chutes. This part I solved by fabricating a piece of wood to block off the
chock and thru bolt it to itself to prevent the chutes from getting into the
chock. If we ever need it again, we will be better prepared for the
retrieval. It as light work, but tedious.
You must also have chafe gear that will hold the large diameter line.
All in all it was well worth the investment, time and effort.
I also was in a horrific storm, 1 more storms, and a gale before reaching
Bermuda. In 1990 where 7 boats went down about 300 miles north of St Thomas,
we also made it through unscathed in my tartan 37. .
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Amel] Heavy Weather
Eric,
I remember in one of your earlier posts you described how difficult it was
retrieving the Jordan series drogue, and that it kept throwing the circuit
breaker on the genoa sheet power winch. Did you happen to try using "both"
power winches at the same time? For example using the port winch as the
primary, then running the tail across to the starboard one to use them
in-line.
At the very least it would make tailing easier.
Steve
Summer Love SM 340
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Sent: Wed, December 15, 2010 1:17:59 AM
Subject: [Amel] Heavy Weather
On the drogue you run under bare poles, our speed was about 1 ½ knots down
wind. You adjust the angle of the boat with the bridles until you are square
to the oncoming waves. In Force 12 wind you do not want to have any canvas
up, on any point of sail, and running dead down wind would just shred the
sails.
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Conn Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:14 AM
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Eric were you hoved-to at the same time in the storm or were you
running?...CW
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Sent: Wed, 15 December, 2010 3:49:02 PM
Subject: [Amel] Heavy Weather
I have successfully used the Jordan series drogue twice in my life. The last
time ,2008, the winds were force 12 and seas as reported by the coast guard
to be 50-60 feet.
We were the only boat not to have sunk or been severely damaged, both times.
I do not believe in sea anchors, Google Jordan series drogue and watch the
video, there are also some wave tank tests.
I would not leave home without it.
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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Subject: Re: [Amel] Heaving-to
I have that Pardy's book and they recomend deploying a chute or parra anchor
off
the windward bow to stop the forward drift. It"s good to hear some Amel
sailing
tips and experiences. Thanks
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Sent: Wed, 15 December, 2010 2:18:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heaving-to
I tried heaving to with my SM243 and found that I couldn't slip exactly
downwind
as recommended by the Pardee's. No matter what I did, I sailed forward at
about
1/2 kt, which was fine for calming the motion, getting some rest and
cooking,
but I sailed out of the boat's slick to windward. In a big sea it's my
understanding that if you can slip directly downwind, the slick created by
the
boat will prevent waves from breaking on your beam. I think that I would
have
to drag something on a yoke from the bow and stern so that I could adjust
the
attitude of the boat to be able to slip directly downwind.
If you figure something else out, please let us know.
Kent
S/V KRISTY
SM243
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