Re: [Amel] Re: HF Radio

Conn Williamson <connwilliamson@...>

Thanks again for that info Tom / Bill. That's pretty much what I thought. Is HF the same SSB?. I think we ozzies call it HF.I had an old cb radio years ago with upper & lower side band which we called ssb.
 My rigger who is extremly well known in Brisbane for being the best around, suggested doing away with the antenna system, which is still installed on our boat, because of the extra expense involved in the rigging, when he replaces the tridadic and back stays. We don't have an HF unit in the boat at the minute.
Bill, we follow you on facebook
Thanks again

--- On Wed, 25/5/11, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
Subject: [Amel] Re: HF Radio
To: amelyachtowners@...
Received: Wednesday, 25 May, 2011, 9:28 AM



We are 2/3rds or more away around beginning in the Caribbean and currently in Marmaris. We have HF, a Pator3 modem, winlink and sailmail. Hen not near civilization we used the HF for email communication and downloaded weather information. When near civilization we used WiFi and/or 3G modem. We seem to be using the 3G modem about 60% of the time recently.

When crossing the Pacific from Galapagos to French Polynesia we found a large hole in sailmail stations until we got closer to the Marquesas where sailmail has installed a new station at Manahi.

However, while making passages around the world, some of our best information came from informal Nets that included cruisers ahead of us as well as some behind us. You cannot duplicate these daily meetings on sat phones for lots of reasons, but one is that sat phone to sat phone calls can be very expensive. I have seen some as high as $14/min.

We have a sat phone for emergencies and only pay for airtime when used. I do not believe you can write a contract like that anymore. We did not use it for 2 years, but when crossing the Bay of Bengal, we encountered an un-forecasted LO which was fairly violent. We were unable to get weather information (grib files) that recorded this LO, but we were being hit with 45kt winds...we used the sat phone to call Commander's Weather who was able to give us the position of the LO, allowing us to plot a course out of it.

Your rigger is absolutely correct if you only analyze the situation from his perspective...the additional cost of the rigging could buy you lots of minutes for your sat phone...does he also sell sat phones?

If you currently have HF, you may want to look at an HF halyard antenna to replace your rigging will not be as good, but will probably suffice.

If you do not have HF and you do not want 2-way communication with fellow cruisers on passages, then your rigger is probably correct. With the money you will save from not purchasing and rigging HF, you can buy a lot of sat phone minutes.

BTW, out of 20 yachts crossing from Galapagos to French Polynesia with us in 2008, only one did not have a HF transceiver, and he had a HF receiver.


BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Conn" <connwilliamson@...> wrote:

I am going to get some standing rigging replaced on our Mongo. We are intending to cruise the Pacific in the next few years. My Rigger suggested to do away with the HF aerial system on the tridadic and back stays, saying that HF is outdated. What do Amel owners that are cruising full time think of this. HF or Sat phone?.

Cheers to all...Conn.. Jasmyn #28

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