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[Amel] Re: sm2k's with the Yanmar 75HP motors & pic

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Following up on this discussion and well as the additional 10 x fuel cans and Jordon Seried Drouge...
We left Gran Canaria on 10th January and enjoyed a wonderful 17 day and 1 hr crossing to Rodney Bay, St Lucia. Island Pearl II handled this beautifully with just 2 x tacks the entire 2800NM with poled out foresail most of the way and most days achieving 170NM distances.
We motored for about 3 days and were able to comfortably motor at 6.6 - 7.3kts with about 1600 - 1800 revs. In line with much of the feedback received both publically on this site and those Yanmar 75hp fans who e-mailed me direct the Yanmar 75HP is actually a wonderful match to the SM2000, especially when we measured the fuel consumption over this distance. From St Lucia to Panama little motoring was needed however in the last few weeks from Panama to Galapagos this was mostly under motor.
For the above reason I am so thankful for the tip regarding storing extra fuel cans in the Life Raft locker. This has given us well over 1300nm range which was again helpful this week as there has been little wind south east of Galapagos Islands and Island Pearl II is now headed direct from there to Tahiti then direct to Sydney.
The tip about the Jordon Series Drogue was great too and we were able to source this direct from Roddy at Neptunes Locker www.seriesdrogue.co.uk in the UK who was most helpful in shipping it to our boat in the Canary Islands despite the last minute order. Luckily we have not needed to deploy it yet but I feel very safe having this on board.
Lastly I should mention one particular individual who was the most outstanding of all in the service provided and his brilliance in knowledge of Amel boats. This is the Amel Technician for the Canary Islands, Michel-Henri Fraisse who basically made our entire trip possible by working around the clock in sourcing and installing watermaker, new 2nd auto-pilot, HF Radio, engine servicing, sail repairs, bow thruster complete removal and service etc etc. Since Michel Henri had cared for our boat since new in 2001 I am sure we probably got special treatment however this guy is just a stand out performer at a very fair price and knows his Amels like the back of his hand even including being able to manouvre the SM2000 in and out of tight marina berths on his own like an absolute pro. I don't have his number with me now but in case any of you need help in the Canary Islands his e-mail address is ttammogan@... and he comes with both my personal high recommendation and that of the PYD professional delivery skipper and Crew.
Fair Winds
Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II SMK2000#332

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "islandpearl2_sm2k332" <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Hi Bill
Thanks, just got back into range and found the pictures & your comment. Have looked through many of your posts to the site so thank you for all the very useful information. It is amazing help for new Amel owners like myself.
Kind regards, Colin (sm2k #332)

--- In amelyachtowners@..., bootlegger@ wrote:

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------Original Message------
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe
To: amelyachtowners@...
ReplyTo: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: sm2k's with the Yanmar 75HP motors & pic
Sent: 27 Nov 2011 06:14

Colin,

The 10 Jerry Cans in the "liferaft locker" was me, BeBe #387. I posted photos at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/855376336/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

Be sure to read the comments under each photo.

BTW, we are 3/4ths of the way around the world, westward bound starting in the Caribbean...we have yet to need the extra fuel, but it has been reassuring that it is there.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently N Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Colin Streeter <colin.d.streeter@> wrote:

Thanks Eric
Your comments are comforting and, given the other comments so far, I suspect that we will be very content with the 75 hp as is.
Whilst in touch with you I might add that you have added a wealth of useful into into the AMEL site so thanks for this as I have been reading much of it. With our upcoming Atlantic trip I am going to go back to the string of articles to which you added - in particular the one regarding 10 extra fuel containers in the life raft hatch - and ask for someone to post some pictures of how this looks when stacked in. A picture would really help me as I am getting someone to purchase these in Gran Canaria and I am currently in Sydney. A pic would be far better than my poor Spanish...
Cheers, Colin


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Re : [Amel] ARC and more...

RAYNAL EVA <evaraynal@...>
 

Hello everybody,
We just crossed the Atlantic with our Super Maramu no 183, REVE DE LUNE IV and had no problem with electricity using only the original Onan generator for between 4 to 6 hours a day.  The electrical consumption during the passage seemed quite reasonable (between 6 to 10 Ah depending on the time of the day and weather conditions) for a normal equipment : two refrigerators, autopilot (we have two Autohelm 7000 which are remarkable even in rough conditions and crossed swells as we had for a couple of days during our passage), GPS, computer with MaxSea for navigation and weather forecast, Iridium and Inmarsat C for e-mails and weather forecasts and of course lights at night (the nights are long, 13 hours). But we don't like to be dependent only on the generator so we are seriously considering to add solar panels and perhaps a wind generator before crossing the Pacific in 2013.  We read the mail of Danny and Yvonne and are very interested in the
specifications of the equipment you mention ?  Before making a decision and investing a lot of money, we would really appreciate to have your opinion.  Originally we would have liked to install a hydrogenerator (DuoGen, Watt & Sea or similar) but apparently they don't work well on our boats because of the height of the aft. Did anybody experience this kind of equipment ?
Very best regards,
Eva and Jean-Luc
SM REVE DE LUNE IV


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De : Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
À : "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Envoyé le : Lundi 27 février 2012 20h33
Objet : Re: [Amel] ARC and more...


 
Hi Fernando, we have a SM 2000 and sailed 16000 miles in all sorts of conditions from the east coast of the US to New Zealand using the Raymarine auto pilot. It was totally reliable and steered effectively at all times and in all conditions. Power consumption was negligible compared to usage by the electric freezer and two refrigerators so I have no intention of trying to fit a wind vane. For me, the wind generator and the solar panels we fitted were more valuable. I did not want to be relying only on engines to charge batteries.
Regards
Danny
Ocean Pearl SM 299
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Nefeli <smnefeli@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Ivan,

thanks for your answer that, unfortunately, confirms the information from other sources.

We plan to run the ARC two-handed, so the issue of autopilot can be a serious one.

Fair winds
Fernando & Daniela
sm Nefeli

On 27 Feb 2012, at 12:46, Ivan Campbell wrote:

Hello Fernando and Daniela

I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.

The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.

We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.

Hope this is helpful.

Fair winds

Ivan Campbell

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@...

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela

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Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Fernando, we have a SM 2000 and sailed 16000 miles in all sorts of conditions from the east coast of the US to New Zealand using the Raymarine auto pilot. It was totally reliable and steered effectively at all times and in all conditions. Power consumption was negligible compared to usage by the electric freezer and two refrigerators so I have no intention of trying to fit a wind vane. For me, the wind generator and the solar panels we fitted were more valuable. I did not want to be relying only on engines to charge batteries.
Regards
Danny
Ocean Pearl SM 299
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Nefeli <smnefeli@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Ivan,

thanks for your answer that, unfortunately, confirms the information from other sources.

We plan to run the ARC two-handed, so the issue of autopilot can be a serious one.

Fair winds
Fernando & Daniela
sm Nefeli

On 27 Feb 2012, at 12:46, Ivan Campbell wrote:

Hello Fernando and Daniela

I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.

The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.

We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.

Hope this is helpful.

Fair winds

Ivan Campbell

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@...

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela

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Re : [Amel] ARC and more...

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Fernando,
 
I have a Mango, the ancestor to the SM.
My Amel is an electric boat. I did a complete revamping of the electric circuits and do a regular maintenance of what needs to be checked.
The boat has done many crossings with a short crew, using only the NECO electric autopilot.
 
In 2005, I added a Autohelm 7000 with the electric power drive connected directly on one of the arms fixed above the rudder (under the aft berth), because in the previous crossing, one of the Morse type cable controlling the rudder, broke and the crew had to use the emergency tiller for a few days, before arriving in Gibraltar.
 
In 2007, after sailing the Med, I did a crossing from Las Palmas to Martinique, in the rought weather of February with a friend. The Autohelm did almost all the steering. I would say we held the helm for less than 2 hours in 18 days and, with huge cross swells comming from the North Atlantic, we kept the same pace as a large modern catamaran that had a larger crew that was also crossing and going towards Trinidad.
 
Conclusion: two electrical Autopilots are a secured choice.
On my previous boat I installed a Sailomat autopilot and it gave me so much trouble, I sold it... 
 
Serge V/Opera  Mango#51
 
 
 

De : Nefeli <smnefeli@...>

À : amelyachtowners@...
Envoyé le : lundi 27 février 2012 8h53
Objet : Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Ivan,

thanks for your answer that, unfortunately, confirms the information from other sources.

We plan to run the ARC two-handed, so the issue of autopilot can be a serious one.

Fair winds
Fernando & Daniela
sm Nefeli

On 27 Feb 2012, at 12:46, Ivan Campbell wrote:

Hello Fernando and Daniela

I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.

The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.

We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.

Hope this is helpful.

Fair winds

Ivan Campbell

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@...

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela

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Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

smnefeli
 

Ivan,

thanks for your answer that, unfortunately, confirms the information from other sources.

We plan to run the ARC two-handed, so the issue of autopilot can be a serious one.

Fair winds
Fernando & Daniela
sm Nefeli

On 27 Feb 2012, at 12:46, Ivan Campbell wrote:

Hello Fernando and Daniela

I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.

The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.

We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.

Hope this is helpful.

Fair winds

Ivan Campbell

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@...

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela

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Re: Spanish Euros 41

Jose_Luis <lji0041@...>
 

Hi,

You already have my contact details.

Regards
JL

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "tresliebres" <eonoemedia@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm the owner of a Amel Euros 41 # 240 "Gran Roque." I know of at least two others who have or have had Spanish flag until recently, but I have not located. Are there any other Spanish owner of a Euro 41?. If so I would like to exchange information and experiences. a greeting


Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Ivan Campbell <i-campbell@...>
 

Hello Fernando and Daniela



I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.



The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.



We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.



Hope this is helpful.



Fair winds



Ivan Campbell







From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@...





Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela



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ARC and more...

smnefeli
 

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38 "Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela


Re: [Amel] Re: Santorin transmision

Ric <ric@...>
 

I have a santorin 24 built in 1990. I need to repair the c drive & water entry. I would appreciate if u could send photos to me as well to ric@....

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24

On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:43 PM, "MAS" <mas1766@...> wrote:

Hello Antonio,

It's curious that the boat you are looking is #29 built in 1990 as my Santorin is the #28 built in 1991! Check if the year is correct.
In any case with #27 - Akwaaba of Mike we make a nice trio!!

Concerning the C transmission, I disassembled all the transmission last year, changing all gaskets unless the big one on top, bushings and oil seals. I done this job as I had an oil loss fron the bottom part of the aluminium cubic box. If you send me an e-mail I can send you some pictures of the parts.
I cannot say if my unit is 15 or 20cm but I can check next time I go on the boat if you need.

The mechanic who made the job, told me that the oil reservoir should not be filled as it should work to receive the oil coming from the transmission in case of over heat/pressure. He told me that if I fill the oil reservoir the C transmission is working at high pressure and that can be the cause problems to the seals. I consulted this forum and someone told me to respect the original Amel system, I also agree so I filled 50% of the oil reservoir even I still have some dubt on this point, as the mechanic theory is quite logical.

Ask if I can help in some way.

Best regards

Fabio
SN#28 - Italica

--- In amelyachtowners@..., ANTONIO DIEZ <a.diezrv@...> wrote:

Hello everybody : We are thinking to buy a Santorin build in 1990 and we know that the transmision in that date ( 1989-1990)was defective and the yard changed later for a new one. The old one had a cubic box ( behind the the engine ) in aluminiun wich was 15x15x15 cms and the new one is in casting 20x20x20 cms .
Has any of you the old model ? have you had any problem ? Have you change it for the new one ?
I also would like to kown if it is necesary to chage only the cubic box or all the transmision system included the external part that is outside the boat as well as the price and difficulty to do the job.
I am sorry for my english I do better in spanish.
Tank you very much for any help.
Best regard : Antonio Diez



Spanish Euros 41

tresliebres <eonoemedia@...>
 

Hi, I'm the owner of a Amel Euros 41 # 240 "Gran Roque." I know of at least two others who have or have had Spanish flag until recently, but I have not located. Are there any other Spanish owner of a Euro 41?. If so I would like to exchange information and experiences. a greeting


Re: Santorin transmision

MAS
 

Hello Antonio,

It's curious that the boat you are looking is #29 built in 1990 as my Santorin is the #28 built in 1991! Check if the year is correct.
In any case with #27 - Akwaaba of Mike we make a nice trio!!

Concerning the C transmission, I disassembled all the transmission last year, changing all gaskets unless the big one on top, bushings and oil seals. I done this job as I had an oil loss fron the bottom part of the aluminium cubic box. If you send me an e-mail I can send you some pictures of the parts.
I cannot say if my unit is 15 or 20cm but I can check next time I go on the boat if you need.

The mechanic who made the job, told me that the oil reservoir should not be filled as it should work to receive the oil coming from the transmission in case of over heat/pressure. He told me that if I fill the oil reservoir the C transmission is working at high pressure and that can be the cause problems to the seals. I consulted this forum and someone told me to respect the original Amel system, I also agree so I filled 50% of the oil reservoir even I still have some dubt on this point, as the mechanic theory is quite logical.

Ask if I can help in some way.

Best regards

Fabio
SN#28 - Italica

--- In amelyachtowners@..., ANTONIO DIEZ <a.diezrv@...> wrote:

Hello everybody : We are thinking to buy a Santorin build in 1990 and we know that the transmision in that date ( 1989-1990)was defective and the yard changed later for a new one. The old one had a cubic box  ( behind the the engine ) in aluminiun wich was 15x15x15 cms and the new one is in  casting 20x20x20 cms .
Has any of you the old model ? have you had any problem ? Have you change it for the new one ?
I also would like to kown if it is necesary to chage only the cubic box or all the transmision system included the external part that is outside the boat as well as the price and difficulty to do the job.
I am sorry for my english I do better in spanish.
Tank you very much for any help.
Best regard : Antonio Diez 



Re: [Amel] Re: Santorin transmision

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

Antonio,
    My e-mail is yachtakwaaba@... I will be going to the boat tomorrow, and as I have the gearbox removed for a rebuild, it will be easy to look at the dimensions of the top gearbox for the "C" drive.
 ATB Mike


________________________________
From: ANTONIO DIEZ <a.diezrv@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Santorin transmision


 
hello Mike and Craig , I am tryng to send some photos to the forum with the two model of transmisions but I am not able to do it.
If give your amails I will send to you.
Thank you , Antonio 

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De: sv Sangaris <sangaris@...>
Para: amelyachtowners@...
Enviado: Miércoles, febrero 22, 2012 3:37 P.M.
Asunto: [Amel] Re: Santorin transmision


 
Hello Antonio,

It sounds like you have the same installation as we do on our Santorin. Can you explain more about what the problem is? If it is simply leaking oil or water in the Amel "C" drive gearbox, then Mike's post covers it, but if it is another problem please post again.

Craig Briggs, SN#68 "SANGARIS"






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Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bob, it is on top of the mast secured by four bolts through a base plate to which the upright tube is welded with strengthening gussetts. The top of the mast is large enough without modification. We put a hard rubber 4 or 5 ml thick sheet between the plate and the mast to avoid vibration and that has proved completely adequate.Quite simply we never hear it at all.  As to the option of front of mast, I would not consider that as the top is so good and front of mast brings a set of issues.
We are very pleased with the set up, combined with two 130 watt solar panels on the port side rail beside the stern cabin we can liveaboard and seldom need the gen set.. Another great advantage is that Ocean Pearl is on a mooring with a fridge left on and the batteries are always fully charged, good for battery life. 
Regards
Danny 

From: "bsarff@..." <bsarff@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans


 


Thanks Danny.  Is your generator off the front of the mizzen part way up of at the top? 

Bob

SV Chara

Maramu hin #173

----- Original Message -----

From: "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS" <simms@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:40:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

 

We have installed a "Super Wind" wind generator on the mizzen and it is very good. Never hear it or even know it is there and it works well. The Super Wind is an expensive model but it has some special features. It is quiet, it self feathers in gale force wind so you never have to worry about tying it off. It is robustly constructed, intended for remote locations and needing infrequent servicing. We installed it in October 09 and it has been trouble free.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand 

From: " bsarff@... " < bsarff@... >
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

 

Lorenzo, what was wrong with the mizzen location?  I'm considering adding a wind generator and was thinking of installing it on the mizzen, either on top or mid-way off a bracket. 

Does anyone else have comments on the installation of a wind generator on a Maramu.

Bob

----- Original Message -----

From: "ferruccilorenzo" < ferruccilorenzo@... >
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:24:22 AM
Subject: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

 

Hi everyone, we want to install an Air breeze on our SM2000. Two years ago we had it mount on mizen mast, but did not convince me much, for the weight and balance.

Now we would install it on pole in the stern portion. Do You have any photos of a wind generator installed?
(I have no idea of the surface of the plate should have and where I can mount it). We're scared about drill our Red Passion :)

Is Stainless steel (inox aisi 316) the right material? Is aluminum better?

Thanks a lot to everyone who read me.

Lorenzo SM2000 #420 Red Passion (Italy)

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Re: [Amel] Re: Santorin transmision

ANTONIO DIEZ <a.diezrv@...>
 

hello Mike and Craig , I am tryng to send some photos to the forum with the two model of transmisions but I am not able to do it.
If give your amails I will send to you.
Thank you , Antonio 


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Para: amelyachtowners@...
Enviado: Miércoles, febrero 22, 2012 3:37 P.M.
Asunto: [Amel] Re: Santorin transmision


 
Hello Antonio,

It sounds like you have the same installation as we do on our Santorin. Can you explain more about what the problem is? If it is simply leaking oil or water in the Amel "C" drive gearbox, then Mike's post covers it, but if it is another problem please post again.

Craig Briggs, SN#68 "SANGARIS"




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Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

bsarff@...
 

Thanks John.  It looks like the top of the mizzen is a good location.  I'm looking at the Air Maax which produces 120v AC at the generator and then rectifies it at the batteries to 12v.  This way there is less voltage drop and smaller condutors can be used from the generator to the rectifier. 



Thanks again for your help.



Bob

----- Original Message -----


From: "Anne and John Hollamby" <annejohnholl@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:43:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

 




Hello Bob,
I mounted a wind generator above the radar on my last boat and it sucked the mizzen staysail in every time I tried to use it so I moved it up to the top of the mast whihj solved that problem. I did not put any sort of a vibration mount when refitting it and the vibrations were noticeable in the aft cabin. Whether some sort of insulator would have helped I do not know. However that was twenty five years ago and generators might be better balanced nowadays.

Best wishes, Anne and John Bali Hai SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: bsarff@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

Thanks Danny. Is your generator off the front of the mizzen part way up of at the top?

Bob

SV Chara

Maramu hin #173

----- Original Message -----

From: "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS" < simms@... >
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:40:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

We have installed a "Super Wind" wind generator on the mizzen and it is very good. Never hear it or even know it is there and it works well. The Super Wind is an expensive model but it has some special features. It is quiet, it self feathers in gale force wind so you never have to worry about tying it off. It is robustly constructed, intended for remote locations and needing infrequent servicing. We installed it in October 09 and it has been trouble free.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: " bsarff@... " < bsarff@... >
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

Lorenzo, what was wrong with the mizzen location? I'm considering adding a wind generator and was thinking of installing it on the mizzen, either on top or mid-way off a bracket.

Does anyone else have comments on the installation of a wind generator on a Maramu.

Bob

----- Original Message -----

From: "ferruccilorenzo" < ferruccilorenzo@... >
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:24:22 AM
Subject: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

Hi everyone, we want to install an Air breeze on our SM2000. Two years ago we had it mount on mizen mast, but did not convince me much, for the weight and balance.

Now we would install it on pole in the stern portion. Do You have any photos of a wind generator installed?
(I have no idea of the surface of the plate should have and where I can mount it). We're scared about drill our Red Passion :)

Is Stainless steel (inox aisi 316) the right material? Is aluminum better?

Thanks a lot to everyone who read me.

Lorenzo SM2000 #420 Red Passion (Italy)

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Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Bob,
I mounted a wind generator above the radar on my last boat and it sucked the mizzen staysail in every time I tried to use it so I moved it up to the top of the mast whihj solved that problem. I did not put any sort of a vibration mount when refitting it and the vibrations were noticeable in the aft cabin. Whether some sort of insulator would have helped I do not know. However that was twenty five years ago and generators might be better balanced nowadays.

Best wishes, Anne and John Bali Hai SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: bsarff@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans





Thanks Danny. Is your generator off the front of the mizzen part way up of at the top?

Bob

SV Chara

Maramu hin #173

----- Original Message -----

From: "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS" <simms@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:40:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans



We have installed a "Super Wind" wind generator on the mizzen and it is very good. Never hear it or even know it is there and it works well. The Super Wind is an expensive model but it has some special features. It is quiet, it self feathers in gale force wind so you never have to worry about tying it off. It is robustly constructed, intended for remote locations and needing infrequent servicing. We installed it in October 09 and it has been trouble free.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: " bsarff@... " < bsarff@... >
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans



Lorenzo, what was wrong with the mizzen location? I'm considering adding a wind generator and was thinking of installing it on the mizzen, either on top or mid-way off a bracket.

Does anyone else have comments on the installation of a wind generator on a Maramu.

Bob

----- Original Message -----

From: "ferruccilorenzo" < ferruccilorenzo@... >
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:24:22 AM
Subject: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans



Hi everyone, we want to install an Air breeze on our SM2000. Two years ago we had it mount on mizen mast, but did not convince me much, for the weight and balance.

Now we would install it on pole in the stern portion. Do You have any photos of a wind generator installed?
(I have no idea of the surface of the plate should have and where I can mount it). We're scared about drill our Red Passion :)

Is Stainless steel (inox aisi 316) the right material? Is aluminum better?

Thanks a lot to everyone who read me.

Lorenzo SM2000 #420 Red Passion (Italy)



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Sharki Aft Cabin Bulkhead

fishtong1 <mpsusman@...>
 

Hi Sharki owners,

I recently decided to tackle the removal and replacement of the aft
cabin bulkhead which was rotten. This is the one which borders the
engine room and would be the headboard of the aft cabin bunk. I am sure
that at some stage the mizzen mast or there abouts must have been
leaking water into the plywood bulkhead. I am assuming that it was
repaired at some stage because the plywood was soft and crumbly, in some
places even dust like. but COMPLETELY DRY with no sign of dampness or
moisture, even when I threw a bucket of water on the deck above. Has
any other Sharki owner had a similar experience with their yacht? Ours
is 28years old, so not a new yacht.

All the best

Fishtong1


Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

bsarff@...
 

Thanks Danny.  Is your generator off the front of the mizzen part way up of at the top? 



Bob

SV Chara

Maramu hin #173

----- Original Message -----


From: "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS" <simms@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:40:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

 




We have installed a "Super Wind" wind generator on the mizzen and it is very good. Never hear it or even know it is there and it works well. The Super Wind is an expensive model but it has some special features. It is quiet, it self feathers in gale force wind so you never have to worry about tying it off. It is robustly constructed, intended for remote locations and needing infrequent servicing. We installed it in October 09 and it has been trouble free.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand 

From: " bsarff@... " < bsarff@... >
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

 

Lorenzo, what was wrong with the mizzen location?  I'm considering adding a wind generator and was thinking of installing it on the mizzen, either on top or mid-way off a bracket. 

Does anyone else have comments on the installation of a wind generator on a Maramu.

Bob

----- Original Message -----

From: "ferruccilorenzo" < ferruccilorenzo@... >
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:24:22 AM
Subject: [Amel] Wind generator - photos - plans

 

Hi everyone, we want to install an Air breeze on our SM2000. Two years ago we had it mount on mizen mast, but did not convince me much, for the weight and balance.

Now we would install it on pole in the stern portion. Do You have any photos of a wind generator installed?
(I have no idea of the surface of the plate should have and where I can mount it). We're scared about drill our Red Passion :)

Is Stainless steel (inox aisi 316) the right material? Is aluminum better?

Thanks a lot to everyone who read me.

Lorenzo SM2000 #420 Red Passion (Italy)

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Re: Santorin transmision

Craig Briggs
 

Hello Antonio,

It sounds like you have the same installation as we do on our Santorin. Can you explain more about what the problem is? If it is simply leaking oil or water in the Amel "C" drive gearbox, then Mike's post covers it, but if it is another problem please post again.

Craig Briggs, SN#68 "SANGARIS"


Re: Wind generator - another choice

Dave_Benjamin
 

Ian,

I'm so used to my 12V boats that I forget many of my fellow owners have 24V.

There is a 24v model available for the same cost. It may not be showing on the website. I checked with Rich, the owner of the company.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Ian Shepherd <sv_freespirit@...> wrote:

Thanks for the info on the AirMaax Dave. The link makes no mention of a
24V model which would make it unsuitable for many Amel owners.

I have used an Air 403 at the top of my mizzen for the past 11 years on
two Super Maramu's. It works superbly up there and outperforms by a long
way turbines mounted on deck poles. The fixing bracket and pole are made
of high quality aluminium (painted), and frankly the weight aloft is not
at all noticeable.

What you must do is separate the plate at the top of the mizzen and the
bottom plate of the turbine bracket with high quality anti vibration
fittings else you will hear and feel the vibration as it resonates down
the mast. I found an excellent company in Farnham UK who make very
robust dampers. Crusader has been through many gales including across
the N. Atlantic to Greenland with sustained winds of 30-40 kts for six
days, and I have never had the slightest problem with the mountings.
After almost 8 years I did have a blade fail, which may have been
through UV weakening or possibly a bird strike. Spares are easy to find
and with the aid of a cherry picker I was able to change them in 30
minutes. A lot easier than standing on a rope looped over the top of the
mizzen mast to gain the extra height!

I did post the address and details of the anti vibration mounts some
years ago but it seems to have disappeared. The type suitable for Air
models (and probably other makes too) is AL-30. The beauty of these
mounts is that there is a bolt through the unit so that it can never
come apart even if the rubber perishes. See
http://www.ava-antivibrationmountings.co.uk/catalog_category.aspx?cat_id=48
for details and company contact info.

I did have to spray the mounts with an aerosol of Hammerite white paint
before using them. I also mounted them on rubber mats and used rubber
washers and polythene tubing around the mounting bolts where they went
through the mast head plate to reduce vibration further.

With the turbine on the mast head and two 120W 24V BP Solar panels
mounted on the rails abeam the aft coach roof, Crusader will break even
in electrical terms in 15 kts of apparent wind and sunlight despite
continuous use of autopilot, laptop, AIS transponder, radio,
instruments, two fridges and a deep freeze and the audio entertainment
system. And often one of the panels is in the shade of the mizzen sail
too. I believe that it is well worth the effort to mount the turbine
aloft and out of the way. Mounting it half way up the mast may well be
problematic if you use the mizzen staysail.

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader


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