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Re: [Amel] AIS

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi to all, we have been using AIS in the same manner for years it works very well.
Best to all.
Richard on Challenge in Annapolis for sale. SM 209



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From: Giovanni Testa <gtesta23@tin.it>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:35 AM
Subject: [Amel] AIS


 
Hi to all,
I have purchased an AIS Icom MA-500 TR ( GPS in box) and a splitter class B Easy Split to use with VHF- Furuno antenna on the mast.
You may see how it works
from the maker :

" the easySplit_OCB works as follows:

_Splitter OFF_:

VHF Radio is direct connected with the VHF aerial

A connected AIS-transponder won't be able to receive and transmit, but
no damage to it.

_Splitter ON_:

*CASE: VHF Radio and AIS transponder are receiving*:

·The received VHF signals (both: VHF FM communication and AIS telegrams)
are split into the two path; one to the VHF Radio, one to the AIS
transponder.

*CASE: VHF radio is transmitting (Push to talk is pressed)*

·VHF radio is direct connected to the VHF antenna

·AIS transponder is disconnected from the antenna; if AIS transponder is
transmitting, the signal is absorbed inside the splitter.

*CASE: VHF Radio is receiving, AIS transponder is transmitting*

·The AIS transponder is direct connected to the VHF antenna for the
short time, the transponder is transmitting (approx. 26msec)

·In that time, the VHF Radio is disconnected from the antenna

·If the VHF radio starts transmitting during the transmission of the AIS
transponder, the VHF radio is automatically connected to the antenna,
the AIS transponder is disconnected. This is for safety reasons ."

The solution was suggested from a professional :
http://www.nextboat.it/menu/it/attrezzatura/sicurezza/ais-trasponder.htm with many PDF to better understand.
by Antonio Pezzoni cell . 3386003328 ,good english.

I have seen it working properly on other boat and I 'm testing it at home ( Venezia ) . So I can see my " boat" over my roof on : http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ ;- ))) !
I'll install it on board very soon in April when again in Raiata.
Buon Vento
Gianni TESTA
Sv EUTIKIA SM 2K 428


AIS

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi to all,
I have purchased an AIS Icom MA-500 TR ( GPS in box) and a splitter class B Easy Split to use with VHF- Furuno antenna on the mast.
You may see how it works
from the maker :

" the easySplit_OCB works as follows:

_Splitter OFF_:

VHF Radio is direct connected with the VHF aerial

A connected AIS-transponder won't be able to receive and transmit, but
no damage to it.

_Splitter ON_:

*CASE: VHF Radio and AIS transponder are receiving*:

·The received VHF signals (both: VHF FM communication and AIS telegrams)
are split into the two path; one to the VHF Radio, one to the AIS
transponder.

*CASE: VHF radio is transmitting (Push to talk is pressed)*

·VHF radio is direct connected to the VHF antenna

·AIS transponder is disconnected from the antenna; if AIS transponder is
transmitting, the signal is absorbed inside the splitter.

*CASE: VHF Radio is receiving, AIS transponder is transmitting*

·The AIS transponder is direct connected to the VHF antenna for the
short time, the transponder is transmitting (approx. 26msec)

·In that time, the VHF Radio is disconnected from the antenna

·If the VHF radio starts transmitting during the transmission of the AIS
transponder, the VHF radio is automatically connected to the antenna,
the AIS transponder is disconnected. This is for safety reasons ."

The solution was suggested from a professional :
http://www.nextboat.it/menu/it/attrezzatura/sicurezza/ais-trasponder.htm with many PDF to better understand.
by Antonio Pezzoni cell . 3386003328 ,good english.

I have seen it working properly on other boat and I 'm testing it at home ( Venezia ) . So I can see my " boat" over my roof on : http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ ;- ))) !
I'll install it on board very soon in April when again in Raiata.
Buon Vento
Gianni TESTA
Sv EUTIKIA SM 2K 428


Re: [Amel] Music radio antenna

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

I put my antenna on the mizzen, it is very important that it is high
over sea level.
I am in Cap d'Agde, and I capture the boats across the
Mediterranean(Tunisia) !
For your TV cable it is possible to use it. But regarding that the most
difficultys is to climb high in the morning, I would put a new cable
with low losses (very cheep).
Jluc on CottonBay
good winds

Jean-Luc MERTZ
Expert
/Tout est possible dans un monde infini/

Le 29/02/2012 18:49, ferruccilorenzo a écrit :

Hi everybody, I have to move the AIS (receiver and transmitter)
antenna from the mizzen mast (following your advice, i'm planning to
install here the wind generator :) ).

Where do you have install the AIS antenna (rx and tx)? Can I use the
cable of stereo hi-fi, that have its antenna on the main mast
(replacing only the antenna)?


Re: Music radio antenna

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

We have used the AM/FM radio antenna in combination with the AIS receiver for 3 years with very good results. I connected the AIS receiver to the radio antenna by cutting the antenna wire near the AM/FM radio and reconnecting using a BNC "T" connector and "screw on BNC connectors on the coax.

I do not have any interference on the AM/FM radio...however, this was an AIS receiver only, not a transmitter/receiver.

If you only use the AM/FM radio while in port, my suggestion is to buy a short rubber antenna for the AM/FM and place it inside the equipment drawer, then use the existing AM/FM antenna for your AIS. To do this you will have to purchase an adapter from AM/FM radio plug to BNC plug, or you may have to cut the coax and install a BNC connector...there are two types: one type of BNC connector is crimped on, the other is screwed on.

If it works for you, please let me know as one of our next purchases is a Class B AIS Transponder.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ferruccilorenzo" <ferruccilorenzo@...> wrote:

Hi everybody, I have to move the AIS (receiver and transmitter) antenna from the mizzen mast (following your advice, i'm planning to install here the wind generator :) ).

Where do you have install the AIS antenna (rx and tx)? Can I use the cable of stereo hi-fi, that have its antenna on the main mast (replacing only the antenna)?


Music radio antenna

ferruccilorenzo
 

Hi everybody, I have to move the AIS (receiver and transmitter) antenna from the mizzen mast (following your advice, i'm planning to install here the wind generator :) ).

Where do you have install the AIS antenna (rx and tx)? Can I use the cable of stereo hi-fi, that have its antenna on the main mast (replacing only the antenna)?


Sharki Wanted!

hanoah64 <hanoah64@...>
 

We just sold our yacht and we are interested in purchasing a Sharki. If you have or know of a Sharki that is not already listed on the web please let us know. Regards, Roger Wilson


Re: [Amel] Re: MAIN OUTHAUL LINE

eric freedman
 

Hi,

You really need to use some high tech line on the outhaul. I have found that
using anything with some stretch, will allow the line to slip when it is wet
an in a blow.

I also used one of the winches on the mast to tighten the car even further
with an extra line.

Also, check the welds on the shackle on the car. They have been known to
crack.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly Cerillo
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: MAIN OUTHAUL LINE





Alain,

Thanks so much for your response, we pretty much followed your advice but
decided to leave length in the tensioning line to tighten for the next week,
as it seems that the line is stretching a bit (don’t think too much of the
non stretch line we purchased).

Thanks again,

R/

George and Kim

SM2K #353 Indecent

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Alain Feuillet
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:45 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: MAIN OUTHAUL LINE

Hi George,
I had to change the outhaul line recently. It is not so difficult. The tip
is:
- to position the cart against the stop near the mast and to attach it
temporarily, as tight as possible and with no elongation (I used an exotic
fiber), to the mast with a line.
- to fix (definitively) an extemity of the new line to the rear of the cart
- to pass the line in the free pulley and to come back to the driving pulley
- to pretension the outhaul line as much as reasonable using the driving
pulley/outhaul motor
- at that time, you can definitively attach the second extremity of the line
to the front of the cart with a normal tension.
That's it. When you release the tension, you can remove the temporary line
and the pretension is in the new line.
Hope it is understandable. In my case, it worked well.
Fair winds
Alain
PILGRIM SM n°26



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Re: [Amel] Re: MAIN OUTHAUL LINE

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Alain,



Thanks so much for your response, we pretty much followed your advice but
decided to leave length in the tensioning line to tighten for the next week,
as it seems that the line is stretching a bit (don’t think too much of the
non stretch line we purchased).

Thanks again,



R/

George and Kim

SM2K #353 Indecent



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alain Feuillet
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:45 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: MAIN OUTHAUL LINE





Hi George,
I had to change the outhaul line recently. It is not so difficult. The tip
is:
- to position the cart against the stop near the mast and to attach it
temporarily, as tight as possible and with no elongation (I used an exotic
fiber), to the mast with a line.
- to fix (definitively) an extemity of the new line to the rear of the cart
- to pass the line in the free pulley and to come back to the driving pulley
- to pretension the outhaul line as much as reasonable using the driving
pulley/outhaul motor
- at that time, you can definitively attach the second extremity of the line
to the front of the cart with a normal tension.
That's it. When you release the tension, you can remove the temporary line
and the pretension is in the new line.
Hope it is understandable. In my case, it worked well.
Fair winds
Alain
PILGRIM SM n°26

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Re: MAIN OUTHAUL LINE

Alain Feuillet <alainfeuillet@...>
 

Hi George,
I had to change the outhaul line recently. It is not so difficult. The tip
is:
- to position the cart against the stop near the mast and to attach it
temporarily, as tight as possible and with no elongation (I used an exotic
fiber), to the mast with a line.
- to fix (definitively) an extemity of the new line to the rear of the cart
- to pass the line in the free pulley and to come back to the driving pulley
- to pretension the outhaul line as much as reasonable using the driving
pulley/outhaul motor
- at that time, you can definitively attach the second extremity of the line
to the front of the cart with a normal tension.
That's it. When you release the tension, you can remove the temporary line
and the pretension is in the new line.
Hope it is understandable. In my case, it worked well.
Fair winds
Alain
PILGRIM SM n°26


MAIN OUTHAUL LINE

george cerillo
 

Good day, we are changing the main sail outhaul line, as we understand, it is very difficult to tension the line when installing the replacement line. Does anyone have experience with this?

George and Kim Cerillo
SM2K #353 Indecent


[Amel] Re: sm2k's with the Yanmar 75HP motors & pic

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Following up on this discussion and well as the additional 10 x fuel cans and Jordon Seried Drouge...
We left Gran Canaria on 10th January and enjoyed a wonderful 17 day and 1 hr crossing to Rodney Bay, St Lucia. Island Pearl II handled this beautifully with just 2 x tacks the entire 2800NM with poled out foresail most of the way and most days achieving 170NM distances.
We motored for about 3 days and were able to comfortably motor at 6.6 - 7.3kts with about 1600 - 1800 revs. In line with much of the feedback received both publically on this site and those Yanmar 75hp fans who e-mailed me direct the Yanmar 75HP is actually a wonderful match to the SM2000, especially when we measured the fuel consumption over this distance. From St Lucia to Panama little motoring was needed however in the last few weeks from Panama to Galapagos this was mostly under motor.
For the above reason I am so thankful for the tip regarding storing extra fuel cans in the Life Raft locker. This has given us well over 1300nm range which was again helpful this week as there has been little wind south east of Galapagos Islands and Island Pearl II is now headed direct from there to Tahiti then direct to Sydney.
The tip about the Jordon Series Drogue was great too and we were able to source this direct from Roddy at Neptunes Locker www.seriesdrogue.co.uk in the UK who was most helpful in shipping it to our boat in the Canary Islands despite the last minute order. Luckily we have not needed to deploy it yet but I feel very safe having this on board.
Lastly I should mention one particular individual who was the most outstanding of all in the service provided and his brilliance in knowledge of Amel boats. This is the Amel Technician for the Canary Islands, Michel-Henri Fraisse who basically made our entire trip possible by working around the clock in sourcing and installing watermaker, new 2nd auto-pilot, HF Radio, engine servicing, sail repairs, bow thruster complete removal and service etc etc. Since Michel Henri had cared for our boat since new in 2001 I am sure we probably got special treatment however this guy is just a stand out performer at a very fair price and knows his Amels like the back of his hand even including being able to manouvre the SM2000 in and out of tight marina berths on his own like an absolute pro. I don't have his number with me now but in case any of you need help in the Canary Islands his e-mail address is ttammogan@gmail.com and he comes with both my personal high recommendation and that of the PYD professional delivery skipper and Crew.
Fair Winds
Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II SMK2000#332

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "islandpearl2_sm2k332" <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Hi Bill
Thanks, just got back into range and found the pictures & your comment. Have looked through many of your posts to the site so thank you for all the very useful information. It is amazing help for new Amel owners like myself.
Kind regards, Colin (sm2k #332)

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, bootlegger@ wrote:

D
------Original Message------
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
ReplyTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: sm2k's with the Yanmar 75HP motors & pic
Sent: 27 Nov 2011 06:14

Colin,

The 10 Jerry Cans in the "liferaft locker" was me, BeBe #387. I posted photos at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/855376336/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

Be sure to read the comments under each photo.

BTW, we are 3/4ths of the way around the world, westward bound starting in the Caribbean...we have yet to need the extra fuel, but it has been reassuring that it is there.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently N Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Colin Streeter <colin.d.streeter@> wrote:

Thanks Eric
Your comments are comforting and, given the other comments so far, I suspect that we will be very content with the 75 hp as is.
Whilst in touch with you I might add that you have added a wealth of useful into into the AMEL site so thanks for this as I have been reading much of it. With our upcoming Atlantic trip I am going to go back to the string of articles to which you added - in particular the one regarding 10 extra fuel containers in the life raft hatch - and ask for someone to post some pictures of how this looks when stacked in. A picture would really help me as I am getting someone to purchase these in Gran Canaria and I am currently in Sydney. A pic would be far better than my poor Spanish...
Cheers, Colin


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Re : [Amel] ARC and more...

RAYNAL EVA <evaraynal@...>
 

Hello everybody,
We just crossed the Atlantic with our Super Maramu no 183, REVE DE LUNE IV and had no problem with electricity using only the original Onan generator for between 4 to 6 hours a day.  The electrical consumption during the passage seemed quite reasonable (between 6 to 10 Ah depending on the time of the day and weather conditions) for a normal equipment : two refrigerators, autopilot (we have two Autohelm 7000 which are remarkable even in rough conditions and crossed swells as we had for a couple of days during our passage), GPS, computer with MaxSea for navigation and weather forecast, Iridium and Inmarsat C for e-mails and weather forecasts and of course lights at night (the nights are long, 13 hours). But we don't like to be dependent only on the generator so we are seriously considering to add solar panels and perhaps a wind generator before crossing the Pacific in 2013.  We read the mail of Danny and Yvonne and are very interested in the
specifications of the equipment you mention ?  Before making a decision and investing a lot of money, we would really appreciate to have your opinion.  Originally we would have liked to install a hydrogenerator (DuoGen, Watt & Sea or similar) but apparently they don't work well on our boats because of the height of the aft. Did anybody experience this kind of equipment ?
Very best regards,
Eva and Jean-Luc
SM REVE DE LUNE IV


________________________________
De : Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz>
À : "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Lundi 27 février 2012 20h33
Objet : Re: [Amel] ARC and more...


 
Hi Fernando, we have a SM 2000 and sailed 16000 miles in all sorts of conditions from the east coast of the US to New Zealand using the Raymarine auto pilot. It was totally reliable and steered effectively at all times and in all conditions. Power consumption was negligible compared to usage by the electric freezer and two refrigerators so I have no intention of trying to fit a wind vane. For me, the wind generator and the solar panels we fitted were more valuable. I did not want to be relying only on engines to charge batteries.
Regards
Danny
Ocean Pearl SM 299
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Nefeli <smnefeli@yahoo.it>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Ivan,

thanks for your answer that, unfortunately, confirms the information from other sources.

We plan to run the ARC two-handed, so the issue of autopilot can be a serious one.

Fair winds
Fernando & Daniela
sm Nefeli

On 27 Feb 2012, at 12:46, Ivan Campbell wrote:

Hello Fernando and Daniela

I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.

The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.

We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.

Hope this is helpful.

Fair winds

Ivan Campbell

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela

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Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Fernando, we have a SM 2000 and sailed 16000 miles in all sorts of conditions from the east coast of the US to New Zealand using the Raymarine auto pilot. It was totally reliable and steered effectively at all times and in all conditions. Power consumption was negligible compared to usage by the electric freezer and two refrigerators so I have no intention of trying to fit a wind vane. For me, the wind generator and the solar panels we fitted were more valuable. I did not want to be relying only on engines to charge batteries.
Regards
Danny
Ocean Pearl SM 299
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Nefeli <smnefeli@yahoo.it>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Ivan,

thanks for your answer that, unfortunately, confirms the information from other sources.

We plan to run the ARC two-handed, so the issue of autopilot can be a serious one.

Fair winds
Fernando & Daniela
sm Nefeli

On 27 Feb 2012, at 12:46, Ivan Campbell wrote:

Hello Fernando and Daniela

I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.

The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.

We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.

Hope this is helpful.

Fair winds

Ivan Campbell

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela

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Re : [Amel] ARC and more...

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Fernando,
 
I have a Mango, the ancestor to the SM.
My Amel is an electric boat. I did a complete revamping of the electric circuits and do a regular maintenance of what needs to be checked.
The boat has done many crossings with a short crew, using only the NECO electric autopilot.
 
In 2005, I added a Autohelm 7000 with the electric power drive connected directly on one of the arms fixed above the rudder (under the aft berth), because in the previous crossing, one of the Morse type cable controlling the rudder, broke and the crew had to use the emergency tiller for a few days, before arriving in Gibraltar.
 
In 2007, after sailing the Med, I did a crossing from Las Palmas to Martinique, in the rought weather of February with a friend. The Autohelm did almost all the steering. I would say we held the helm for less than 2 hours in 18 days and, with huge cross swells comming from the North Atlantic, we kept the same pace as a large modern catamaran that had a larger crew that was also crossing and going towards Trinidad.
 
Conclusion: two electrical Autopilots are a secured choice.
On my previous boat I installed a Sailomat autopilot and it gave me so much trouble, I sold it... 
 
Serge V/Opera  Mango#51
 
 
 

De : Nefeli <smnefeli@yahoo.it>

À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : lundi 27 février 2012 8h53
Objet : Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Ivan,

thanks for your answer that, unfortunately, confirms the information from other sources.

We plan to run the ARC two-handed, so the issue of autopilot can be a serious one.

Fair winds
Fernando & Daniela
sm Nefeli

On 27 Feb 2012, at 12:46, Ivan Campbell wrote:

Hello Fernando and Daniela

I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.

The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.

We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.

Hope this is helpful.

Fair winds

Ivan Campbell

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela

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Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

smnefeli
 

Ivan,

thanks for your answer that, unfortunately, confirms the information from other sources.

We plan to run the ARC two-handed, so the issue of autopilot can be a serious one.

Fair winds
Fernando & Daniela
sm Nefeli

On 27 Feb 2012, at 12:46, Ivan Campbell wrote:

Hello Fernando and Daniela

I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.

The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.

We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.

Hope this is helpful.

Fair winds

Ivan Campbell

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela

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Re: Spanish Euros 41

Jose_Luis Isasi
 

Hi,

You already have my contact details.

Regards
JL

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "tresliebres" <eonoemedia@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm the owner of a Amel Euros 41 # 240 "Gran Roque." I know of at least two others who have or have had Spanish flag until recently, but I have not located. Are there any other Spanish owner of a Euro 41?. If so I would like to exchange information and experiences. a greeting


Re: [Amel] ARC and more...

Ivan Campbell <i-campbell@...>
 

Hello Fernando and Daniela



I did the ARC in 2010 in Ocean Hobo an Amel Santorin. I fitted a Hydrovane
before leaving. We worked hard balancing the sails and in certain winds were
able to steer a course which was probably less than satisfactory.

In St Lucia I met an owner who had fitted the Hydrovane to an Amel 53 but
could not get it to work. Eventually an engineer from Hydrovane came to his
home port before he left for the Arc and did his best to make the vane work
to no avail. They had to take the Hydrovane back and refund his money.



The Hydrovane people are very good and helpful and great people to deal
with. I know other owners who have Hydrovanes fitted on non Amel boats and
they swear by them. It may be an issue with Amels underwater shape.



We had a great start from Las Palmas hand steering with the hydrovane
disconnected but other smaller boats were passing us. I discovered that the
paddle of the unit was causing drag even when out of gear. I removed it and
we caught and passed lots of boats. On a calm day we removed the whole
Hydrovane structure ,rebuilt it and fitted it again at sea. We got rid of
most of the drag so this seemed to have been an installation problem.

However the steering was not what you should expect.



Hope this is helpful.



Fair winds



Ivan Campbell







From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smnefeli
Sent: 27 February 2012 10:47
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com





Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38
"Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very
much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing
her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and
they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the
Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would
appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela



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ARC and more...

smnefeli
 

Hallo everybody,

let us introduce ourselves: we are the new owners of the Supermaramu #38 "Nefeli".
We subscribed to the forum two months ago and we have appreciated it very much.

Nefeli is presently in the north of the Adriatic Sea and we are preparing her for the ARC 2012.

We contacted the Chantiers Amel for a copy of the Supermaramu Manuals and they quickly have sent us what they had available: the Manuals of the Supermaramu 2000.
Does anybody have copies of the old manuals?

We read that some of you have already took part in the ARC. We would appreciate any tip on the preparation of the boat.
Had any of you got a positive experience with windvanes?

Thanks in advance and fair winds,

Fernando & Daniela


Re: [Amel] Re: Santorin transmision

Ric <ric@...>
 

I have a santorin 24 built in 1990. I need to repair the c drive & water entry. I would appreciate if u could send photos to me as well to ric@kitchenmagic.net.

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24

On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:43 PM, "MAS" <mas1766@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello Antonio,

It's curious that the boat you are looking is #29 built in 1990 as my Santorin is the #28 built in 1991! Check if the year is correct.
In any case with #27 - Akwaaba of Mike we make a nice trio!!

Concerning the C transmission, I disassembled all the transmission last year, changing all gaskets unless the big one on top, bushings and oil seals. I done this job as I had an oil loss fron the bottom part of the aluminium cubic box. If you send me an e-mail I can send you some pictures of the parts.
I cannot say if my unit is 15 or 20cm but I can check next time I go on the boat if you need.

The mechanic who made the job, told me that the oil reservoir should not be filled as it should work to receive the oil coming from the transmission in case of over heat/pressure. He told me that if I fill the oil reservoir the C transmission is working at high pressure and that can be the cause problems to the seals. I consulted this forum and someone told me to respect the original Amel system, I also agree so I filled 50% of the oil reservoir even I still have some dubt on this point, as the mechanic theory is quite logical.

Ask if I can help in some way.

Best regards

Fabio
SN#28 - Italica

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, ANTONIO DIEZ <a.diezrv@...> wrote:

Hello everybody : We are thinking to buy a Santorin build in 1990 and we know that the transmision in that date ( 1989-1990)was defective and the yard changed later for a new one. The old one had a cubic box ( behind the the engine ) in aluminiun wich was 15x15x15 cms and the new one is in casting 20x20x20 cms .
Has any of you the old model ? have you had any problem ? Have you change it for the new one ?
I also would like to kown if it is necesary to chage only the cubic box or all the transmision system included the external part that is outside the boat as well as the price and difficulty to do the job.
I am sorry for my english I do better in spanish.
Tank you very much for any help.
Best regard : Antonio Diez



Spanish Euros 41

tresliebres
 

Hi, I'm the owner of a Amel Euros 41 # 240 "Gran Roque." I know of at least two others who have or have had Spanish flag until recently, but I have not located. Are there any other Spanish owner of a Euro 41?. If so I would like to exchange information and experiences. a greeting