Dear Louis,

I would agree that the Spade is the best all round anchor you can get at the
moment. It fits the Amel bow roller well and it's extra weight in the tip
compared to the Bugel makes sure that it always comes over the roller the
right way up, which is not the case with the Bugel. I have used both anchors
and both have excellent holding power on most bottoms.

Good Luck

Ian

Crusader SM 414

Thank you for your advise ,I will try to get Spade
30kg following the good results of others Amels.
Regards,
Luis "Aloysius"



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There was a lot of stuff about anchors in this site
about a couple of
months ago. All anchors need to be deployed properly
in uncompromising
bottoms and none is perfect in all conditions. However
the CQR was a good
design 60 years ago but has passed its sell by date!
Regards. Anne and John
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There was a lot of stuff about anchors in this site about a couple of
months ago. All anchors need to be deployed properly in uncompromising
bottoms and none is perfect in all conditions. However the CQR was a good
design 60 years ago but has passed its sell by date!
Regards. Anne and John Bali Hai, SM319

Thank you for your advice, surely I will get the Spade 30kg.Good luck in Chile.
Saludos,Luis "Aloysius"

Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Luis, We have had excellent results from our 30 kg Spade, from Europe
to Chile.Having used a cqr, Bruce and Delta on a variety of boats I really
think that, weight for weight, this anchor is a significant breakthrough in
design and performance.Ian and Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Chile

From: "l_gonzalezvallejo" <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchors
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:42:16 -0000

Hello from Alicante,Spain,
I am looking for an anchor to replace the original CQR,I thank your
advice,type and recommended weight.
Regards
Luis





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Dear Luis, We have had excellent results from our 30 kg Spade, from Europe to Chile.Having used a cqr, Bruce and Delta on a variety of boats I really think that, weight for weight, this anchor is a significant breakthrough in design and performance.Ian and Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Chile

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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchors
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:42:16 -0000

Hello from Alicante,Spain,
I am looking for an anchor to replace the original CQR,I thank your
advice,type and recommended weight.
Regards
Luis





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Thank you so much for your quick reply.
Luis
"Aloysius"

Randy Kilmon <drifter01us@yahoo.com> wrote:
We replaced our CQR with a Spade (66 pounds). We
highly recommend it.
Randy Kilmon
"Drifter"



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Hello from Alicante,Spain,
I am looking for an anchor to replace the original CQR,I thank your
advice,type and recommended weight.
Regards
Luis

1985 Amel Maramu for sale in Ft Lauderdale by owner
Hull peeled and epoxied and awlgripped
Deck awlgripped 2 yrs ago
Masts awlgripped 2 yr ago
Mainsail and Jib new 3yr ago used lightly
Generator, Airconditioned
new refrigerator
new freezer
new raymarine radar
new gps
interior cushions reupholstered of white
loads of spare parts
lovingly maintained
$185,000.00 U.S.
Serious inquiries only please
email TC215@MSN.COM

Thank you to you all for your replies regarding my request for information on spreader failures on Amel Super Maramu 2000's. It would seem that our manufacturer is not always generous with the truth. The real value of this site is that those of us who have parted with our hard earned cash can freely exchange information here and find out what is really going on with our boats. Let me tell you what has happened to mine.

Last October my 11 week old Super Maramu 2000 'Crusader' was dismasted off the coast of Newfoundland when the weld at the root of the mainmast portside lower spreader failed. Professional analysis of the failure by an independent company showed that the weld had not been prepared at all, had not penetrated the metal throughout the circumference of the spreader tube, was too thin, and was full of porosity due to insufficient argon being used during the process. The failure had started at the trailing edge and the crack had started some time before the spreader completely failed and the mast broke.

When I expressed concern to Amel's chairman about the fact that our spreaders consist of a simple aluminium butt weld of a 6 foot arm to a stamped bracket with no pinned insert like more conventional designs, his reply was "If you have no confidence in our design, then sell your boat!" Unbelievable words to someone who has had to buy two Super Maramu's in the past three years due to a design fault. There is no doubt in my mind now that the A in Amel stands for arrogance.

My first boat sank just 27 months old whilst moored to a dock in Granada whilst I visited my dying father. The retractable bow thruster fell out of the boat after the shaft tube broke in two following wear around the fixing bolts due to the back torque of the motor. The bow thruster was not in use at the time and no one was on board. The waves lapped up through the hole and filled the front cabin till she went down. More about that later.

Amel are refusing to honour their warranty and fix the new boat as they claim that I was misusing the boat at the time. I was sailing downwind with an apparent wind of 140 degrees to starboard at 14 knots. The genoa was poled out to port as there was insufficient wind to hold it steady in the sloppy seas. Amel claim that it is written in the users manual that the poles can only be used when the wind is exactly 180 degrees from the bow. I see no reference to that in my manual. Is it in yours?

The only reference that I can see is that when using both the genoa and ballooner, you can sail downwind in this configuration with the wind up to 20 degrees off the stern. The limitation is presumably due to the windward sail beginning to back, though I have found in practice that by easing the windward sheet, you can scratch a wind angle of 30 degrees off the stern in reasonably smooth sea conditions.

I see no reference at all to not using a single pole at any angle that will fill the genoa. Is anyone aware of any such limitation? If there is one, then I can only say 'what a terrible design', and I would certainly not have bought a yacht that does not allow you to pole out the headsail. I have sailed my two Amels over 29,000 nms in 30 months and have often poled out the genoa alone without mishap. I would appreciate your thoughts on Amel's interpretation.

Meanwhile, I would strongly urge you to inspect your spreaders for cracks, especially on recent boats as Amel have switched the fabrication of these critical components to a sub contractor in La Rochelle.

Regarding my bow thruster failure, many of you will have received an alert from Amel in late 2002 asking you to inspect your bow thruster where the 4 bolts went through the motor housing and into the tube. Although Amel never admitted that they got it wrong, they never the less radically altered the bow thruster design and the drainage out of the bow cabin into the bilge. They have done a good job in putting the problem right, though that is small compensation having lost my home and personal effects, as well as putting my cruising plans back to square one. Not now once, but twice.

Of course, like the situation of the spreaders, Amel will only say that I was the only one to have a problem. I know this now not to be true. What I would like to know is just what did you find when you inspected your bow thrusters? Were the holes through the tube elongated by the Alan bolts? Had the bronze ring inside the tube that is held by a single countersunk screw worked loose too? If you found that you were developing problems too, then please let me know at my private email address of g4ljf@compuserve.com . Your replies will of course be treated with the strictest confidence as were the replies concerning the spreaders.

Enjoy your sailing whilst I endure another frustrating winter back in Europe. I wish you better luck than I have had with my Amels.

Fair Winds

Ian Shepherd

SM # 414 'Crusader'

Dear Mr. Duddy,

The sailmaker with the most experience by far making Amel sails here in the
U.S.A. is Peter Grimm Jr. He is partnered in the local Doyle loft here in
Fort Lauderdale, but can build private label sails that are, to my seasoned
and terminally thrifty eye, the best sails for the money available anywhere.
Peter ships sails to our clients world wide and to the best of my knowledge,
has yet to have an unresolved complaint. He's very good. You can trust
him. He will give you my discount, 20%. Can't beat it.

You can reach Peter at: peter@sail-depot.com or phone: 1(954) 462-3695.
Hope this helps.

Joel F. Potter
Super Maramu, Hull #400 "MARY BROWN"

Thank you for your input.

I just replaced my main with Airforce sails from Sailnet Charleston S.C. speak to Tom. They have Amel logo. 4 week service

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Hello,

Is anyone familiar with sail makers who have made sails for a Sharki in the
New England (U.S.A.) area? I would like to contact them. Thanks for your
help.

Roy Duddy
Unwineding # 123
175 Route 101
Bedford, NH 03110
603-472-8500
603-472-7333 Fax
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Has anyone ever retro fitted a shaft generator to an SM with a Volvo?Any views on ease and price much appreciated. Ian and Judy, Pen Azen. SM 302

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What is the easiest and most appropriate way to remove this air?
Thanks. Bill on S/V Lady Sadie
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I have a complete set of sunbrella covers for a Mango I would like to
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Dear Gary,
I met Jim woods at c&f and visited his marina. I did not realize that
Liahona was your boat. Kimberlite is in St Thomas now and we will be
down in mid FEB. and mid March. When in march will you be down?

The screws are visible when the boat is hauled and the rudder is turned.
You will see a screw that holds the rudder bearing in place. It is a
simple twist with a screwdriver.
Fair winds,
Eric

Jan 26, 2004

Hi Eric:

I am back in Utah but our boat (Liahona) is at the Woods Marina in
Sea Cow Bay, Tortola (about 2 miles south of Road Town along the
south eastern coast of Tortola). We will be back down there in
March. It is the next bay north of Nanny Cay. We had been on the
hard at Nanny Cay for the hurricane season but they didn't have any
slips available for us upon launching. Jim Woods is an exceptional
marina manager and very accomadating and it was signifcantly cheaper
than Nanny Cay to boot.

I have the fresh air ventilation system but I do not have the diesel
heater.

What do you need to check on the rudder screws that you mentioned?

Regards, Gary