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Re: [Amel] TDS meter

Eric Freedman
 

I forgot to mention, my unit is permanently wired into the system and is not
a hand held unit.

I believe Gary has some photos of his installation that is very similar to
mine.

Fair Winds

Eric



Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sailormon
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:48 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] TDS meter





It was Discussed over a year ago on this site Unfortunately I am not near
the boat but I recall the unit was about $200- or less.. I also bought and
installed one. It is very simple.

http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/message/1802

I found this on our site but Hanna does not seem to make the unit anymore.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of sy INDECENT
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:28 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] TDS meter

Can anyone recommend an exact model for the TDS meter? I have been on ebay,
there are a page full of them. Will any TDS meter do or is there something I
should be zeroing in on?

Thanks so much,

George and Kim
SM2K #353 Indecent


TDS meter

Eric Freedman
 

It was Discussed over a year ago on this site Unfortunately I am not near
the boat but I recall the unit was about $200- or less.. I also bought and
installed one. It is very simple.



http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/message/1802

I found this on our site but Hanna does not seem to make the unit anymore.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sy INDECENT
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:28 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] TDS meter





Can anyone recommend an exact model for the TDS meter? I have been on ebay,
there are a page full of them. Will any TDS meter do or is there something I
should be zeroing in on?

Thanks so much,

George and Kim
SM2K #353 Indecent


Re: TDS meter

svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...>
 

Hi George and Kim.

How's life in PR?

I have a COM-100 TDS meter from HM Digital. It had been recommended by someone else on this site. It works very well and I'd recommend it too.

Donna says hi.

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sy INDECENT" <gmcerillo@...> wrote:

Can anyone recommend an exact model for the TDS meter? I have been on ebay, there are a page full of them. Will any TDS meter do or is there something I should be zeroing in on?

Thanks so much,

George and Kim
SM2K #353 Indecent


TDS meter

george cerillo
 

Can anyone recommend an exact model for the TDS meter? I have been on ebay, there are a page full of them. Will any TDS meter do or is there something I should be zeroing in on?

Thanks so much,

George and Kim
SM2K #353 Indecent


[Amel] Re: Water Under Salon Floor

svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...>
 

Hi Joel,

Now that you and Jeff have kissed and made up, just what IS the solution to keeping water from overflowing from the main cabin AC unit? :-)

Say hi to Vela.

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Joel Potter <jfpottercys@...> wrote:

OK, OK. I'll send you that $100 I owe you.

Joel F. Potter
Cruising Yacht Specialist.
Amel's Sole Associate For America.
Sent from my iPhone.
Office: 954 462 5869
Cell: 954 812 2485

On Apr 1, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jeffrey Rapp <rapp.jeffrey@...> wrote:

Hi All
In my posting under this subject, I mentioned the cause of my problem with
water under the salon floor, and the fact that Joel Potter had a solution
for it, suggesting that he should post his solution.
Joel and I have a friendly and excellent relationship, as he and anyone who
knows us will attest. In my remark about him knowing everything about
Amels, I was being ironic in tone, but truthful in fact. I'm afraid it may
not have come out that way. If so, I apologize.
Joel is the authority on all things Amel in this hemisphere. He is also an
excellent and honest yacht broker. I have had 4 transactions with him,
buying and selling 2 Amels. I wouldn't have done it any other way.
He and Vela are also my good friends.I hope it stays that way.
Jeffrey Rapp
"Antares" SM2k

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Re: [Amel] Re: Water Under Salon Floor

amelforme
 

OK, OK. I'll send you that $100 I owe you.

Joel F. Potter
Cruising Yacht Specialist.
Amel's Sole Associate For America.
Sent from my iPhone.
Office: 954 462 5869
Cell: 954 812 2485

On Apr 1, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jeffrey Rapp <rapp.jeffrey@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All
In my posting under this subject, I mentioned the cause of my problem with
water under the salon floor, and the fact that Joel Potter had a solution
for it, suggesting that he should post his solution.
Joel and I have a friendly and excellent relationship, as he and anyone who
knows us will attest. In my remark about him knowing everything about
Amels, I was being ironic in tone, but truthful in fact. I'm afraid it may
not have come out that way. If so, I apologize.
Joel is the authority on all things Amel in this hemisphere. He is also an
excellent and honest yacht broker. I have had 4 transactions with him,
buying and selling 2 Amels. I wouldn't have done it any other way.
He and Vela are also my good friends.I hope it stays that way.
Jeffrey Rapp
"Antares" SM2k

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Re: Water Under Salon Floor

Jeffrey Rapp <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

Hi All
In my posting under this subject, I mentioned the cause of my problem with
water under the salon floor, and the fact that Joel Potter had a solution
for it, suggesting that he should post his solution.
Joel and I have a friendly and excellent relationship, as he and anyone who
knows us will attest. In my remark about him knowing everything about
Amels, I was being ironic in tone, but truthful in fact. I'm afraid it may
not have come out that way. If so, I apologize.
Joel is the authority on all things Amel in this hemisphere. He is also an
excellent and honest yacht broker. I have had 4 transactions with him,
buying and selling 2 Amels. I wouldn't have done it any other way.
He and Vela are also my good friends.I hope it stays that way.
Jeffrey Rapp
"Antares" SM2k


Re: [Amel] Bilge odors and cleaning

Eric Freedman
 

The Clorox only stays in the bilge overnight as it is pumped out with the
first shower in the morning.

As I said before Amel said to do that at the factory.

The only stainless in the bilge is the Keel Bolt. The Clorox kills the
bacteria in the bilge, I also pot it in a half full bilge so it also cleans
the walls of the bilge.

Fair Winds

Eric





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Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 9:43 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Bilge odors and cleaning





Hi Eric you are correct. Clorox put off a gas that combined with water make
an acid that will attack metals it touches on and stainless steel does not
like chlorine in any case. A good solution might be to flush the bilge using
something like Simple Green and a fresh water hose and brush.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 31, 2012, at 23:10, Sailormon <kimberlite@optonline.net
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:

When I took the class at amel they told me to use Clorox. It is not good
on
a regular basis for impellers ect

Fair Winds

Eric

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of KIMZ YAHOO
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re:[Amel] Bilge odors and cleaning

Good evening Eric,

I thought using Clorox in the bilge was a no no, as it would destroy the
grounding strap...is this just a myth?

George and Kim Cerillo
SM2K #353 Indecent






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Freshwater Toilet Conversion

Eric Freedman
 

Ian.

If you look at the exploded diagram of the Jabsco toilet there is a fresh
water valve.

It is an antisiphon valve and allows you to install it and use it directly
from the fresh water tank. I have them on board and did not bother to
install them as I did not want to waste fresh water. I also have the 160 lph
water maker. Here is a 12 volt one they also make 24 volt one. There is one
made for our toilets. I figured it would take me about 30 minutes to
install.





http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|51|806|315133|823307
<http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|51|806|315133|823307&id=839612>
&id=839612



Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian Shepherd
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 2:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Freshwater Toilet Conversion





Hi Eric,

not quite sure what you mean here. Crusader has Jabsco electric flush
toilets so by feeding the two engine room toilet pumps from my fresh
water isolation tank, the fresh water supply is permanent - and blue
too! I did it this way to make doubly sure that there was no chance of
the fresh water tank becoming contaminated. I believe this happened when
Amel tried installing freshwater flushing in the final run of Super
Maramus's. Do I take it that your conversion kit allows you to switch
between fresh and sea water?

Actually it is surprising how little water is used to flush, so
consumption was not a consideration, especially with a 160 l/h water
maker on board.

Glad to hear that Amel have got fresh water flushing on the 54.

Regards

Ian SM 414 Crusader

On 01/04/2012 02:17, Sailormon wrote:

Ian,

There is a freshwater conversion for my Jabsco toilet. It is simply an
electric valve with a check valve built into it.

All you have to do is connect the toilet pumps in the engine room to a
fresh
water supply, install the Jabsco and voila, you have fresh water
flushing. I
bought the two valves, but after being meticulous about flushing the
toilets
for 10 seconds each use I have had no further use of fresh water and saves
me from making water just to flush the toilets. I believe the 54
footer has
fresh water flushing.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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Subject: [Amel] Freshwater Toilet Conversion

I have successfully converted Crusader's toilets to a freshwater flush.
Hopefully there will now be no further smells from stagnant seawater, no
more scaling of the waste pipes and there is now blue scented water with
every flush.

Mindful that Amel had a problem when they tried to do this, I turned to
Thomas Crapper for inspiration and copied what is in many a household
loo. There are however two differences to contend with. The cistern tank
concept and ballcock assembly need to be able to cope with pitching and
rolling, and there must never be any back flow into our only freshwater
tank. Here is how it was done. Pictures have been uploaded into an album
called Crusader Modifications.

I purchased a 57 litre plastic tank with a screw lid from a local
chandlers. This fits nicely forward of the main engine. I drilled a
wooden block that fits tightly over the bolts that hold the steel
crossbeam over the prop drive unit. Two channels were routed on the
underside of the block to fit snugly over the vertical edges of the
cross beam. To this block I fabricated a wooden plinth for the tank to
sit on, with side pieces to stop sideways and fore and aft movement.
This was screwed and glued to the block underneath. To the top of the
plinth I glued some anti-slip matting to stop sliding. The tank is
further secured by two straps that pass under the cross beam.

All further parts came from a plumbers store and were made of brass. A
ball cock valve was mounted near the top of the tank along the
centreline with the fill connection on the forward side. The valve was
adjusted so that inflow of fresh water stops at around 40% full. There
is thus a considerable gap between the top of the toilet flush water and
the fill pipe. For good measure I also installed two non return valves
in the fresh water fill line (of different makes) and a stop cock in
case I need to shut off the supply. The fill hose is connected to the
fresh water system via a T connector inserted into the hose that runs up
from the fresh water pump manifold to the hose connection valve located
under the helmsman's seat.

Two holes were drilled in the top of the tank for the elbow connectors
that connect plastic piping to the respective toilet flush motors. (The
original pipes from the sea water manifold need to be capped off. This
is easily achieved by using tapered pipe fittings with screw caps on
them). More pipe is connected to the underside of the tank top and cut
so that the ends lie flush on the bottom of the tank around the mid
position. A small hole was also drilled on the top so that a breather
pipe could be installed. With the screw down airtight lid installed air
needs to be able to flow in and out of the tank as the level changes.
Finally throw in one of those toilet blue tablets and you have very
attractive fresh toilet water.

The wooden support assembly was measured very accurately is very secure.
I had to jump on it to settle it on the crossbeam. Sea trials, so far in
F7 conditions, have shown no problems at all to both the tank mounting
and flush operation. The ballcock does not seem to open and close as the
boat rolls as it is mounted on the centreline in a fore-aft axis. The
system is working very well indeed and did not cost more than about $200
in all. Thank you Mr C!

I have also converted my anchor wash to fresh water. This was easily
achieved by again using a T connector in the deck hose supply line, then
connecting to the anchor wash piping via a 24V solenoid water valve
which I bought on eBay for $15 with free shipping from China. The power
is swapped from the original sea water wash pump to the solenoid. The
anchor wash pump is capped off and the fresh water pump sends the water
to the bow. I do have the uprated pump (A88 instead of the A66) but if
anything there is too much water, so I fitted a gate valve so that I can
regulate the flow. I am investigating a company that specialises in
spray nozzles to perhaps make the chain washing more efficient.

In summary, well worth a small amount of effort.

Ian Shepherd SM 2000 414 'Crusader'




Re: [Amel] Prospective Amel 54 owner

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Hi Kent,

Just wrapping up the season. Had 4 great weeks of sailing with old friends
and my nephew who I did not know very well until we spent some time on the
boat.

Boats....what can one say? If I had come down with a surveyor and crawled
over her I might not have bought her. That's the truth. After some work
and some money I am glad I have her. Even though the check list I just made
has about 15 things that must/should be done. She is a great boat to sail,
and that's what it's all about. I don't think I have any interest in going
out on world cruises like I thought in the buying process. I think the
Caribbean will do nicely for the getaway and dose of ocean and tropics that
I need. Frankly, I miss Montana, my horses, and dog so much I just see that
a boat takes me away too long from the other things I love most. I am just
lucky to have an option to do both.

I think you are right about surveyors, but I needed to survey myself first.
A boat is money and time and patience. It is as good as it gets and as
frustrating too. I guess that's why we refer to them in the feminine.

Hope all systems are running smooth on your girl.

Stay in touch,

Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of karkauai@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 9:50 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Prospective Amel 54 owner

Hi Duncan. Hope all is taking shape on your 54. I would add that if I could
do it over again I would hire a very knowledgeable surveyor (Joel Potter or
one of the Amel service people if they would do it, or maybe even one of the
long-time Amel owners on this forum) rather than rely on someone who isn't
well versed in the complexities and peculiarities of Amels. Your routine,
run of the mill surveyor will not be able to do a truly valuable assessment.
All the best.
Kent
SM243
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Re: [Amel] Prospective Amel 54 owner

karkauai
 

Hi Duncan. Hope all is taking shape on your 54. I would add that if I could do it over again I would hire a very knowledgeable surveyor (Joel Potter or one of the Amel service people if they would do it, or maybe even one of the long-time Amel owners on this forum) rather than rely on someone who isn't well versed in the complexities and peculiarities of Amels. Your routine, run of the mill surveyor will not be able to do a truly valuable assessment.
All the best.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
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Re: [Amel] Re: Forum

karkauai
 

It would also be helpful if when replying to a post we deleted the prior posts before sending.  Lots of redundant info there.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Forum


My main gripe is that when people hit the reply button to address the subject and even if the subject has changed, they keep the subject title in the e-mail. When many e-mails were sent about the red light it soon got on the toilet problem. When  there was a problem getting the macerator housing off the toilet, I replied with a suggestion but I changed the subject to macerator housing  before I hit the send button. So if someone researches macerator housing hopefully that e-mail will pop up. So I think if we take a few seconds to look at the subject  and make sure that what you are saying directly relates to the subject, then fine, if not change the thing, we can always go back to the original subject.  Hope I make sense... I know nothing about computers.  John  "Moon Dog"  SM248




To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: yahoogroups@svbebe.com
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:33:00 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: Forum


 



ferruccilorenzo,

Let me attempt to answer your question. I think it is a very good question. Since joining this group, I have really gotten a lot from the group and very much appreciate it.

Regarding your question, I own another Yahoo Group (Circumnavigation Group). I can tell you that Yahoo Groups are free, require no administration, and more importantly, they are one-way, which is the Yahoo way. There is another option which is Google Groups, however, they are identical to Yahoo Groups.

In order to set up a site that would do things better and different, someone would be required to be an administrator; someone would have to purchase software and purchase server space. And, if they did not have a sponsor to pay for all of this, it would require payment by the individual which could possibly be off-set by advertising and membership dues. This all becomes complicated unless there is someone that devotes much of his time and money to the project. Most of us are devoting most of our time to enjoying our Amels.

I wish that there was a simple answer to your question, but unfortunately there is not one that I am aware of.

We all could be more organized with what we have. For instance, we could all place the model and hull# in all of our postings. Many of us have asked for this, but??? We could all do a better job of organizing photos. There are over 800 members. Can you imagine if each member had 1 or more photo albums? Some have multiple photo albums and with no method to search these by Yahoo...forget about it! Some of the members have suggested/requested that the individual owners post photos into "category" albums such as "Yanmar Engine," etc.

I hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ferruccilorenzo" <ferruccilorenzo@...> wrote:

When I came into this group, I always found people kind, helpful and very knowledgeable and have never read barren and useless controversy, as often happens on the internet.

Why do not we create a forum? (There is one beautiful on Amel Voiliers, but I unfortunately do not speak French - http://www.forum-voiliers-amel.net/ )
The subjects were divided into categories, thus more easily searchable, you may add images directly in the text ...

Is there any expert to tell us something?



                       





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Re: [Amel] Bilge odors and cleaning

karkauai
 

About once every 2 wks I put a little clorox in a half bowl of water in each sink and drain it into the bilge.  After an hour or so I pump it out using the hand pump to finish it down to a couple of inches in the bottom of the bilge.  When I am at a dock with fresh water, I take a hose and hi press nozzle and flush the bilge with copious amounts of fresh water then pump it out, again with the hand pump to finish the job.  Haven't had an odor problem since I've been using this regimen and I don't think the chlorine stays in contact with the grounding strap long enough to cause a problem.
Kent
SM 243
KRISTY


Re: [Amel] SM mainsail outhaul gearbox SM # 378

goughs_au <goughs_au@...>
 

Hi Anne and John, thankyou for your advice, I will probably go with the 2 new gears from Amel even though the price is extreme. Thankyou for bringing to my attention about which way around the gear should fit. I can see now it is not symmetrical....one side has a shoulder which from memory fitted against the retaining C clip. (I hope!)
Kind regs, Mike

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Anne and John Hollamby" <annejohnholl@...> wrote:

Hello Mike, Put main(or mainsail) outhaul gearbox in the messages search box and you will find lots of messages reporting,inter alia, how much some of us were ripped off getting parts. Put msg no 8768 in and you will see that I could have got a new gearbox from Leroys British agent for rather less than I eventually had to pay Amel for two bronze spares from whom the cost was 200 euros each but much more with the cost of courier delivery. If my memory is correct I could not get the gear alone from the agent. If you should get just the gear alone make sure you put it in the right way around, the machine shop that fitted mine did not!
Good luck, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319


From: goughs_au
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 3:46 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] SM outhaul gearbox SM # 378


Thankyou to those who posted photos of their problems and how the mainsail outhaul motor/gearbox is assembled. I pulled mine appart for inspection and found a new bronze gear is required. It appears the units are underdesigned. In future I will check every year or two and try not to overload when in use. Regs, Mike





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Re: [Amel] Bilge odors and cleaning

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Eric you are correct. Clorox put off a gas that combined with water make an acid that will attack metals it touches on and stainless steel does not like chlorine in any case. A good solution might be to flush the bilge using something like Simple Green and a fresh water hose and brush.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 31, 2012, at 23:10, Sailormon <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

When I took the class at amel they told me to use Clorox. It is not good on
a regular basis for impellers ect

Fair Winds

Eric

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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KIMZ YAHOO
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:[Amel] Bilge odors and cleaning

Good evening Eric,

I thought using Clorox in the bilge was a no no, as it would destroy the
grounding strap...is this just a myth?

George and Kim Cerillo
SM2K #353 Indecent






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[Amel] Re: Water Under Salon Floor

svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...>
 

Thanks Eric.

That's interesting. AMEL designed a drain in the Maramu, but chose to discontinue it in the SM.

Does anyone know what their reasoning was when they made that decision?

Do any of the other models have the drain plug?

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...> wrote:

My Maramu has a drain to the engine bilge that can be plugged, or not. I got
water into the interior bilge from a fresh water leak and could not believe
there wasn't a drain to the general engine bilge. In any event I unplugged the
drain and I have never had any issues with bilge or engine odors in the salon.
If it became a problem I was going to run a hose from the drain down to the
bottom of the bilge, (weighed down with a brass pick up usually used to suck up
water), in the engine room which usually has several inches of water in it at
all times. The end of the hose would be under water and odors should not come up
it. I haven't had to do this yet.

Eric Maramu 105



________________________________
From: svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 31, 2012 7:16:00 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Water Under Salon Floor

 
I'm not sure how it's possible to "flood the boat" by putting a T-fitting into a
hose that's open at both ends anyway. Even if I did leave the valve open by
mistake, the most water that could spill out of it would be from the forward
shower, and that maximum could only be 260 gallons in the unlikely event someone
drained the entire fresh water tank taking a shower. Even then, that's assuming
that all of the water spilled into the main cabin bilge, and not a single drop
flowed the direct path to the engine room bilge for pump out. And it still
wouldn't increase the weight of the water inside the boat anyway, since all it
did was transfer the same water from one tank to another.

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@> wrote:

If you tee those lines be very very sure to do it with a one way valve or
you'll flood the boat. There is really no good way to drain those lockers. Best
to keep the water out to start with.


Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 31, 2012, at 11:01, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@> wrote:

Good point... but if thats the case, the same odors and mold should invade
the forward and aft cabins via the existing drain hoses between the engine room
bulkhead and the shower sumps and galley. If I tap into that same drain hose
with a T-fitting and put a shut-off valve/strainer on it, I should have no more
odor problems than I have now, even if I left the valve open all the time. If I
do as Bill suggests, and also install a water alarm beside the T-fitting, I'd
know if water was even accumulating there and put a stop to it before it does
any damage.

Steve
SM 340
Summer LOve

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@> wrote:

Hi the simple answer is that with an open port to the engine room the odors
and mold would invade the boat.


Regards SM 209 for sale in Annapolis

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 31, 2012, at 10:35, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@> wrote:

Thanks Eric. I think those would be great as spares.

I'm still wondering why the water doesn't drain into the engine room
bilge by design though. It's a lot easier to have the bilge pump and its
automatic float switch taking care of the water, than having to rig up a
stand-by system when needed. Unless one is constantly checking under the salon
floor for the water level, or has installed alarm switches like Bill on Bebe, it
probably wouldn't be apparent until the water got above the floor.

Steve,
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Sailormon <kimberlite@> wrote:

I keep a very large Edson Diaphragm pump in the bilge in front of the
sink along with its hoses, I also keep an electric 24 volt ,3200GPH pump with
hoses and electrical cable with battery clips attached in an adjoining bilge.
These would be my pumps to use in an emergency.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svsummerlove
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Water Under Salon Floor





Thanks for the reply and the tip for using the wet vac Richard.

As I said in my original post, I already know where the water came
from. I just have to be alert enough to realize it's accumulating there before
it creates a mess. The air conditioner managed to dump about 40-50 gallons into
every compartment under there before I realized what was happening. The water
was within 3" of the floorboards at the companionway. At least it was clean
fresh water, but it soaked all my spares.

My biggest concern right now is that I have a boat with no way to pump
water out of the main cabin in case of a hull breach. Any hole in the middle
section of the hull, or any failure of a hatch or port in the right conditions,
and I'll have sea water pouring into an area that can't be pumped out. The only
way to get that water to the bilge pump is to open up one of the water-tight
doors and wait until the level is high enough to pour over the sill into one of
the shower stalls. By that time, it will be high enough to be sloshing all over
the 24VDC to 12VDC converters under the nav station, which supply power to ALL
the electronics. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of... a boat with no
way for incoming sea water to drain naturally into the bilge. I have no doubt
AMEL has a logical reason for designing it this way. I just can't figure out
what it is right now.


Does anyone else have any idea why it's been designed this way.

Thanks,
Steve
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Richard03801 <richard03801@> wrote:

Hi the most likely leak is from the companion way. There is a rubber
seal on the cockpit side that is the likely problem. Or you may have over filed
the water tank. On the Maramu there was a plug that could BE removed to drain
the area. There has never been a post that I can recall about floating
floorboards. When you do get water under there a shop/water vac does the job
very well.



Regards and good luck SM209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 29, 2012, at 19:57, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@> wrote:

I've had two instances where a considerable amount of water has
accumulated in the storage compartments under the floor of the salon in my SM.
One was due to the air conditioning unit freezing up and dumping condensation
water into it. The other was a heavy rain squall with the middle hatch left
open.

What I've discovered, is there is no way for any of that water to
drain into the bilge so it can be pumped overboard. It will continue to rise
until it literally starts to cover the salon floor, soaking everything stored
under there in the process. I've looked everywhere for a plugged drain hole or
closed drain valve. It's just a big tub under there. There are hoses running
through this area, which carry drain water from the chain locker, forward cabin
and shower to the bilge sump, but nothing to drain the salon area itself.


Am I missing something here? I can't believe AMEL would design it
that way on purpose, or forget to install it on an individual boat. It would be
easy enough for me to splice into the forward hose where it goes through the
bulkhead into the engine room, and put a shut-off valve on it so it maintains
the integrity between the water-tight doors. Before I do that though, how does
everyone else deal with getting rid of water under the main salon other than
bailing it out with a pail and a sponge?

Many thanks,

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love




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[Amel] Re: Water Under Salon Floor

svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...>
 

Eric,

Yes, I agree completely. I would not want to permanently install any large cap pump in the main salon. I have one, but it isn't rigged and at the ready like you have. I'll make sure I do that. Your method allows for it to be moved to where it's needed in a hurry.

I really don't even want to install a small pump there either, since the float-switch, plumbing and wiring would probably be more trouble than they're worth. I'm hesitant to drill even a small hole in the bulkhead. That would really be messing with the watertight integrity, even if properly sealed. I'd rather tap into a hose that already goes through the bulkhead by design. That way, only an amount of water that doesn't exceed the capacity of the engine room pump can go through it, and the pipes to which the hose attaches is permanently glassed into the bulkhead.

Thanks,

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Sailormon <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Steve,

The problem with high capacity pumps is that they use big hoses and when
they stop a lot of water returns to the bilge.

What I did in my last boat was to mount a very small rule automatic pump in
the bilge that went on when the main pump stopped. In the smaller pump, I
put a check valve. If you really wanted to prevent water in the bilge, I
would hook in a very small automatic rule pump and drill a hole through the
engine room bulkhead and make sure you seal the hose and add a check valve.

You should never put a check valve in a crash pump, because if it jams you
are in big trouble.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svsummerlove
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 9:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Water Under Salon Floor





Eric,

Actually, in the 7 years I've owned the boat, I've only had any significant
amount of water in the main cabin bilge twice. Those were the two instances
I mentioned, and only the former was really bad. It's not that it happens a
lot. It's just that when it does, it ruins a good bit of what was stored in
there. Had it been salt water, it would have been even worse.

I'm all for repairing the leak rather than just letting it run into the
bilge and get pumped overboard. The problem is there's nothing to tell me
there is a leak until it's too late and the damage is done. I'll definitely
put a water detection sensor in there as Bill suggests, so I'll at least
know when water is accumulating.

I can certainly see the point in using an additional high capacity pump in
conjunction with the fitted bilge pump. I just can't understand why it would
be better than not using the fitted bilge pump along with it. Wouldn't two
pumps be better than one, especially when one started working immediately
while the higher capacity pump was being rigged? What you say reinforces my
point... that the design of the boat provides neither an additional
high-capacity pump, nor a path for water to get to the single fitted pump.

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Sailormon <kimberlite@>
wrote:

Steve,

I have never had much water in my main cabin bilge. It usually comes from
a
leak at the sink, or a/c condenser line. Most frequently, it comes from my
not paying attention and overfilling the water tank. I really would not
worry about it.



Once we were hit sideways by a rogue wave and it laid the boat down on its
port side. Unfortunately, we have the fresh air vent open and the water
entered the main cabin coming out of the vent under the stairs like a fire
hydrant. Since the cockpit was full of water we had hundreds of gallons
below.

It only took up a few hours to dry out the bilges manually.



Additionally, I think it is better to have a little leak into the bilge
and
repair the leak. If you drained the cabin bilge into the engine room, you
would never know if you had a leak



Finally, in a catastrophic situation, the regular bilge pump in the engine
room will not handle as much water as would be coming into the boat.

That is why the ORC rules state that you need an additional large capacity
pump down below. In the Amel we don't.



Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of svsummerlove
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 10:35 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Water Under Salon Floor





Thanks Eric. I think those would be great as spares.

I'm still wondering why the water doesn't drain into the engine room bilge
by design though. It's a lot easier to have the bilge pump and its
automatic
float switch taking care of the water, than having to rig up a stand-by
system when needed. Unless one is constantly checking under the salon
floor
for the water level, or has installed alarm switches like Bill on Bebe, it
probably wouldn't be apparent until the water got above the floor.

Steve,
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Sailormon <kimberlite@>
wrote:

I keep a very large Edson Diaphragm pump in the bilge in front of the
sink
along with its hoses, I also keep an electric 24 volt ,3200GPH pump with
hoses and electrical cable with battery clips attached in an adjoining
bilge. These would be my pumps to use in an emergency.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of svsummerlove
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Water Under Salon Floor





Thanks for the reply and the tip for using the wet vac Richard.

As I said in my original post, I already know where the water came from.
I
just have to be alert enough to realize it's accumulating there before it
creates a mess. The air conditioner managed to dump about 40-50 gallons
into
every compartment under there before I realized what was happening. The
water was within 3" of the floorboards at the companionway. At least it
was
clean fresh water, but it soaked all my spares.

My biggest concern right now is that I have a boat with no way to pump
water out of the main cabin in case of a hull breach. Any hole in the
middle
section of the hull, or any failure of a hatch or port in the right
conditions, and I'll have sea water pouring into an area that can't be
pumped out. The only way to get that water to the bilge pump is to open up
one of the water-tight doors and wait until the level is high enough to
pour
over the sill into one of the shower stalls. By that time, it will be high
enough to be sloshing all over the 24VDC to 12VDC converters under the nav
station, which supply power to ALL the electronics. That's the dumbest
thing
I've ever heard of... a boat with no way for incoming sea water to drain
naturally into the bilge. I have no doubt AMEL has a logical reason for
designing it this way. I just can't figure out what it is right now.

Does anyone else have any idea why it's been designed this way.

Thanks,
Steve
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Richard03801 <richard03801@>
wrote:

Hi the most likely leak is from the companion way. There is a rubber
seal on the cockpit side that is the likely problem. Or you may have over
filed the water tank. On the Maramu there was a plug that could BE removed
to drain the area. There has never been a post that I can recall about
floating floorboards. When you do get water under there a shop/water vac
does the job very well.


Regards and good luck SM209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 29, 2012, at 19:57, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@> wrote:

I've had two instances where a considerable amount of water has
accumulated in the storage compartments under the floor of the salon in my
SM. One was due to the air conditioning unit freezing up and dumping
condensation water into it. The other was a heavy rain squall with the
middle hatch left open.

What I've discovered, is there is no way for any of that water to
drain into the bilge so it can be pumped overboard. It will continue to
rise
until it literally starts to cover the salon floor, soaking everything
stored under there in the process. I've looked everywhere for a plugged
drain hole or closed drain valve. It's just a big tub under there. There
are
hoses running through this area, which carry drain water from the chain
locker, forward cabin and shower to the bilge sump, but nothing to drain
the
salon area itself.

Am I missing something here? I can't believe AMEL would design it
that
way on purpose, or forget to install it on an individual boat. It would be
easy enough for me to splice into the forward hose where it goes through
the
bulkhead into the engine room, and put a shut-off valve on it so it
maintains the integrity between the water-tight doors. Before I do that
though, how does everyone else deal with getting rid of water under the
main
salon other than bailing it out with a pail and a sponge?

Many thanks,

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love




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[Amel] Re: Water Under Salon Floor

svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...>
 

Thanks Ian.

That was my first thought too. It makes a lot of sense. Then I noticed the drain hose from the forward cabin has two T connections already. One is from the forward chain locker, and the other from the galley. There is a shut off valve coming out of the chain locker, and another just aft of the forward watertight door in the main salon, which are to be closed to maintain watertight integrity between the bulkheads. The one going to the galley does not have a way of being shut, but it's probably high enough that it isn't an issue. By the time the water level got above the galley countertop, any additional water flow through a 2" hose would be insignificant. There are also several 1/2" hoses from various appliances tapped into it.

If I install a "T" into the same hose under the companionway steps, equipped with a shut off valve and strainer, it should be no less watertight. Then if I add a water detector beside it, I'll know if there is an accumulation of water, and I'll be able to open the valve until I can find the source of the water.

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Ian Shepherd <sv_freespirit@...> wrote:

I believe that the main reason why there is no drain from the salon
bilge to the engine room is to preserve the water tight integrity of
both compartments. The Amel philosophy of have 10 or is it 13 water
tight compartments.

Ian SM 414 Crusader

On 31/03/2012 14:47, Richard03801 wrote:

Hi the simple answer is that with an open port to the engine room the
odors and mold would invade the boat.

Regards SM 209 for sale in Annapolis

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 31, 2012, at 10:35, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@...
<mailto:svsummerlove%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

Thanks Eric. I think those would be great as spares.

I'm still wondering why the water doesn't drain into the engine room
bilge by design though. It's a lot easier to have the bilge pump and
its automatic float switch taking care of the water, than having to
rig up a stand-by system when needed. Unless one is constantly
checking under the salon floor for the water level, or has installed
alarm switches like Bill on Bebe, it probably wouldn't be apparent
until the water got above the floor.

Steve,
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>, Sailormon <kimberlite@>
wrote:

I keep a very large Edson Diaphragm pump in the bilge in front of
the sink along with its hoses, I also keep an electric 24 volt
,3200GPH pump with hoses and electrical cable with battery clips
attached in an adjoining bilge. These would be my pumps to use in an
emergency.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of svsummerlove
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Water Under Salon Floor





Thanks for the reply and the tip for using the wet vac Richard.

As I said in my original post, I already know where the water came
from. I just have to be alert enough to realize it's accumulating
there before it creates a mess. The air conditioner managed to dump
about 40-50 gallons into every compartment under there before I
realized what was happening. The water was within 3" of the
floorboards at the companionway. At least it was clean fresh water,
but it soaked all my spares.

My biggest concern right now is that I have a boat with no way to
pump water out of the main cabin in case of a hull breach. Any hole in
the middle section of the hull, or any failure of a hatch or port in
the right conditions, and I'll have sea water pouring into an area
that can't be pumped out. The only way to get that water to the bilge
pump is to open up one of the water-tight doors and wait until the
level is high enough to pour over the sill into one of the shower
stalls. By that time, it will be high enough to be sloshing all over
the 24VDC to 12VDC converters under the nav station, which supply
power to ALL the electronics. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
of... a boat with no way for incoming sea water to drain naturally
into the bilge. I have no doubt AMEL has a logical reason for
designing it this way. I just can't figure out what it is right now.

Does anyone else have any idea why it's been designed this way.

Thanks,
Steve
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Richard03801
<richard03801@> wrote:

Hi the most likely leak is from the companion way. There is a
rubber seal on the cockpit side that is the likely problem. Or you may
have over filed the water tank. On the Maramu there was a plug that
could BE removed to drain the area. There has never been a post that I
can recall about floating floorboards. When you do get water under
there a shop/water vac does the job very well.


Regards and good luck SM209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 29, 2012, at 19:57, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@> wrote:

I've had two instances where a considerable amount of water
has accumulated in the storage compartments under the floor of the
salon in my SM. One was due to the air conditioning unit freezing up
and dumping condensation water into it. The other was a heavy rain
squall with the middle hatch left open.

What I've discovered, is there is no way for any of that water
to drain into the bilge so it can be pumped overboard. It will
continue to rise until it literally starts to cover the salon floor,
soaking everything stored under there in the process. I've looked
everywhere for a plugged drain hole or closed drain valve. It's just a
big tub under there. There are hoses running through this area, which
carry drain water from the chain locker, forward cabin and shower to
the bilge sump, but nothing to drain the salon area itself.

Am I missing something here? I can't believe AMEL would design
it that way on purpose, or forget to install it on an individual boat.
It would be easy enough for me to splice into the forward hose where
it goes through the bulkhead into the engine room, and put a shut-off
valve on it so it maintains the integrity between the water-tight
doors. Before I do that though, how does everyone else deal with
getting rid of water under the main salon other than bailing it out
with a pail and a sponge?

Many thanks,

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love




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Re: [Amel] Re: Water Under Salon Floor

Ian Shepherd
 

I believe that the main reason why there is no drain from the salon
bilge to the engine room is to preserve the water tight integrity of
both compartments. The Amel philosophy of have 10 or is it 13 water
tight compartments.

Ian SM 414 Crusader

On 31/03/2012 14:47, Richard03801 wrote:

Hi the simple answer is that with an open port to the engine room the
odors and mold would invade the boat.

Regards SM 209 for sale in Annapolis

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 31, 2012, at 10:35, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@yahoo.com
<mailto:svsummerlove%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

Thanks Eric. I think those would be great as spares.

I'm still wondering why the water doesn't drain into the engine room
bilge by design though. It's a lot easier to have the bilge pump and
its automatic float switch taking care of the water, than having to
rig up a stand-by system when needed. Unless one is constantly
checking under the salon floor for the water level, or has installed
alarm switches like Bill on Bebe, it probably wouldn't be apparent
until the water got above the floor.

Steve,
SM 340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>, Sailormon <kimberlite@...>
wrote:

I keep a very large Edson Diaphragm pump in the bilge in front of
the sink along with its hoses, I also keep an electric 24 volt
,3200GPH pump with hoses and electrical cable with battery clips
attached in an adjoining bilge. These would be my pumps to use in an
emergency.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of svsummerlove
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Water Under Salon Floor





Thanks for the reply and the tip for using the wet vac Richard.

As I said in my original post, I already know where the water came
from. I just have to be alert enough to realize it's accumulating
there before it creates a mess. The air conditioner managed to dump
about 40-50 gallons into every compartment under there before I
realized what was happening. The water was within 3" of the
floorboards at the companionway. At least it was clean fresh water,
but it soaked all my spares.

My biggest concern right now is that I have a boat with no way to
pump water out of the main cabin in case of a hull breach. Any hole in
the middle section of the hull, or any failure of a hatch or port in
the right conditions, and I'll have sea water pouring into an area
that can't be pumped out. The only way to get that water to the bilge
pump is to open up one of the water-tight doors and wait until the
level is high enough to pour over the sill into one of the shower
stalls. By that time, it will be high enough to be sloshing all over
the 24VDC to 12VDC converters under the nav station, which supply
power to ALL the electronics. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
of... a boat with no way for incoming sea water to drain naturally
into the bilge. I have no doubt AMEL has a logical reason for
designing it this way. I just can't figure out what it is right now.

Does anyone else have any idea why it's been designed this way.

Thanks,
Steve
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Richard03801
<richard03801@> wrote:

Hi the most likely leak is from the companion way. There is a
rubber seal on the cockpit side that is the likely problem. Or you may
have over filed the water tank. On the Maramu there was a plug that
could BE removed to drain the area. There has never been a post that I
can recall about floating floorboards. When you do get water under
there a shop/water vac does the job very well.


Regards and good luck SM209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Mar 29, 2012, at 19:57, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@> wrote:

I've had two instances where a considerable amount of water
has accumulated in the storage compartments under the floor of the
salon in my SM. One was due to the air conditioning unit freezing up
and dumping condensation water into it. The other was a heavy rain
squall with the middle hatch left open.

What I've discovered, is there is no way for any of that water
to drain into the bilge so it can be pumped overboard. It will
continue to rise until it literally starts to cover the salon floor,
soaking everything stored under there in the process. I've looked
everywhere for a plugged drain hole or closed drain valve. It's just a
big tub under there. There are hoses running through this area, which
carry drain water from the chain locker, forward cabin and shower to
the bilge sump, but nothing to drain the salon area itself.

Am I missing something here? I can't believe AMEL would design
it that way on purpose, or forget to install it on an individual boat.
It would be easy enough for me to splice into the forward hose where
it goes through the bulkhead into the engine room, and put a shut-off
valve on it so it maintains the integrity between the water-tight
doors. Before I do that though, how does everyone else deal with
getting rid of water under the main salon other than bailing it out
with a pail and a sponge?

Many thanks,

Steve
SM 340
Summer Love




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