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Myra Reid <myra.saoleile@...>
 

I am unable to sign into amelyachtowner. I changed my email address and can't remember my password. We own Amel Super Maramu hull no. 228 1998. She is called Saol Eile and registered in Ireland. My date of birth is April 11th 1947. We are presently in Nuku Hive Marquesa islands and need some advise from the remembers.
My new email address is myra.saoleile@gmail.com
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Regards
Myra


Re: Rigging replacement

Jose Venegas
 

Craig, as you predicted, and in spite of having alerted the yard, they send a standard metric turnbuckle for the headstay that does not fit. Where did you get the smaller turnbucke and how much did you pay for it.

I am preparing my boat for a transatlantic crossing scheduled for June 15 and my boat is still on the ground!

Any connections will be greatly appreciated.

Jose

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sv Sangaris" <sangaris@...> wrote:



Hi Jose,

At least on my SN (and SM's I've seen up close), yes the ACMO provided original rigging used metric cables and "standard" (inch - based) turnbuckles. Further, the turnbuckles are "Inverse", meaning there's a left handed thread on top, whereas US hardware is the opposite. I've never figured out if there's an engineering reason for that, but doubt it (maybe Cap'n Henri was left handed :-).

I think I made some earlier posts on the subject, but if you contact ACMO (Acastillage Modern)they can likely send you the complete specifications and a quote on the rigging. I saved about 1000 Euros by not using the "Inverse" turnbuckles - all else was per original ACMO spec. All up it was $6,550, including shipping to Italy from France. Katherine and I installed it ourselves in a week.

By the way, ACMO had etched the exact length of the finished stays on the lower eyebolts of my original ones - they've stopped doing that now and put the date of manufacture, but it's worth a look - it's very tiny hand etched numbers like 15885, which is my backstay length in mm.

The only "tricky" piece is the headstay turnbuckle which is "Special Dimension" as it's shorter than normal to fit under the furler (at least on the SN and, I belive on the SM.)

Cheers,
Craig Briggs
SN #68 "SANGARIS", in Leros Greece whilst we're in sunny Florida


Re: [Amel] Aft Climma unit trips fuse even when switch turned off at the unit

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

It sounds like the heating element has shorted out. There are two fuses on that unit it is hard to understand the fault. Check the on of switch too. Also be sure to change the capacitors while you have it apart.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On May 14, 2012, at 6:51, "Mark" <markghayden@yahoo.com> wrote:

We are on a SM2k. I have my aft Climma unit turned off on its control panel (rocker switch in neutral between Cold/Heat). Then I turn the power on the boats AC panel ("Clim Ar"). It immediately trips the shore fuse and/or the boats main AC fuse (in compartment behind the panel). All the other Climma units work fine (when actually testing, all other AC power load is off.

I checked the capacitors and they are mostly fine (though the fan capacitors are 50% off from their rated values). However, I get the sense there may be a short somewhere else causing the problem... anyone else had this happen?

Thanks in advance,

Mark
SV Northfork #331




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Re: Aft Climma unit trips fuse even when switch turned off at the unit

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

Two things:

First:
Do you know if yo have a ground fault or a short? You said "It immediately trips the shore fuse and/or the boats main AC fuse (in compartment behind the panel)." If it is not tripping the breaker for "Clim Ar," I would assume that you are looking for a ground fault. If I had this problem, I would try to figure out a systematic routine to find the problem. First thing I would do is disconnect all power leads at the A/C unit. If the same breakers trip with the unit disconnected, your unit is fine and there is a wiring problem between it and the breaker panel.

Second:
However, those fan capacitors will need to be replaced because they control the fan speed. As they get weak, the fan will slow...you probably will not notice it, but there is a thermo-switch on the heating coil unit that will notice the decreased air flow and cut the heaters off...first chance you get, you need to replace them. Two of the capacitors are are 2&#956;F and the one marked C1 is 3.15&#956;F. I have hull 387 and recently replaced all of the fan capacitors on the 3 a/c units...total 9 capacitors. They are not easy to find unless you want to pay 10 times the price by buying them from a Climma dealer. I bought mine at an electronics supply store which had to special order them for me. Remove one and take it with you.

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, Sm2k, #387
Currently at anchor, Gokkaya, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <markghayden@...> wrote:

We are on a SM2k. I have my aft Climma unit turned off on its control panel (rocker switch in neutral between Cold/Heat). Then I turn the power on the boats AC panel ("Clim Ar"). It immediately trips the shore fuse and/or the boats main AC fuse (in compartment behind the panel). All the other Climma units work fine (when actually testing, all other AC power load is off.

I checked the capacitors and they are mostly fine (though the fan capacitors are 50% off from their rated values). However, I get the sense there may be a short somewhere else causing the problem... anyone else had this happen?

Thanks in advance,

Mark
SV Northfork #331


Re: [Amel] Re: Late Maramu or early Santorin?

Amel Salvagny
 

I own a 1993 Santorin and clearly prefer the newer layout to the Maramus I
have seen. Also the rig is slightly taller and - as it is said - a Santorin
has e more optimal weigh distribution and will typically sail around ス
knots faster compared to the Maramu.

I also think that you will prefer the more "open" cockpit with the
fold-off protection which allows you to see the sails from the steering
position and gives you a easier view in thight spaces...

best regards,
Lars
Yacht Salvagny
Den 12/05/2012 14.40 skrev "sv Sangaris" <sangaris@aol.com>:

**


We picked the Santorin back in 1999, but since both are now 20-25 years
old, the Santorin being newer may be less of a factor, although the
Santorin has the "modern" hull design and the "C" drive. IMO the Santorin
is easier to move about in the cockpit and perhaps more "airy" down below.
Beyond that, of course, would be how each surveys and then it may simply be
like choosing between chocolate and vanilla - both are good.
Good luck with it,
Craig Briggs SN#68 SANGARIS

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alex" <uster@...> wrote:

Considering both have in-mast furling & bow thruster, I would like some
opinions on choosing an 1988/89 Maramu or a 1990/1991 Santorin which are
closed in price.


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Aft Climma unit trips fuse even when switch turned off at the unit

Mark Hayden
 

We are on a SM2k. I have my aft Climma unit turned off on its control panel (rocker switch in neutral between Cold/Heat). Then I turn the power on the boats AC panel ("Clim Ar"). It immediately trips the shore fuse and/or the boats main AC fuse (in compartment behind the panel). All the other Climma units work fine (when actually testing, all other AC power load is off.

I checked the capacitors and they are mostly fine (though the fan capacitors are 50% off from their rated values). However, I get the sense there may be a short somewhere else causing the problem... anyone else had this happen?

Thanks in advance,

Mark
SV Northfork #331


Re: [Amel] main furler motor

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks John.
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] main furler motor



Hello Danny,
If Ray Roberts cannot solve the problem see my posts 8548 and 8768 for the British Agent. Someone posted the name and address of the guy in the States at the company which is said to own Leroy Somers but you will have to search the site under furling gear or furling motor to find it.

Good luck, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319

From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] main furler motor

Thanks Frank, I do use them so I will give them a call.
Regards
Danny

From: "mailto:bootlegger%40mailasail.com" <mailto:bootlegger%40mailasail.com>
To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] main furler motor

Danny

Suggest that furler motor is an adapted Renault, Peugot or Citroen. Try to talk to Ray Roberts at Riverside Marina Wangerai. Hope this helps.

Frank Newton

SM 321 Bootlegger of Mann
La Rochelle
France
------Original Message------
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
To: amel owners
ReplyTo: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] main furler motor
Sent: 13 May 2012 22:52

Hi All
As part of my preparations for going offshore again I was going to replace the brushes in the sail control motors and saw that the armature where the brushes run was worn so I took the furler and outhaul motors off to have them skimmed. I dismantled one myself but because it was so simple I just took the other in assembled. In pressing the armature out the auto electrician broke one of the magnets and dislodged two others. I have been unable to source in NZ a new magnet so far, or a motor for that matter. I have got a price from amel but does anyone know of another source for the leroy somer 24 volt DC motors for the mainsail furler or for a magnet?
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

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Re: [Amel] main furler motor

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Danny,
If Ray Roberts cannot solve the problem see my posts 8548 and 8768 for the British Agent. Someone posted the name and address of the guy in the States at the company which is said to own Leroy Somers but you will have to search the site under furling gear or furling motor to find it.

Good luck, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319

From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] main furler motor


Thanks Frank, I do use them so I will give them a call.
Regards
Danny

From: "mailto:bootlegger%40mailasail.com" <mailto:bootlegger%40mailasail.com>
To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] main furler motor

Danny

Suggest that furler motor is an adapted Renault, Peugot or Citroen. Try to talk to Ray Roberts at Riverside Marina Wangerai. Hope this helps.

Frank Newton

SM 321 Bootlegger of Mann
La Rochelle
France
------Original Message------
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
To: amel owners
ReplyTo: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] main furler motor
Sent: 13 May 2012 22:52

Hi All
As part of my preparations for going offshore again I was going to replace the brushes in the sail control motors and saw that the armature where the brushes run was worn so I took the furler and outhaul motors off to have them skimmed. I dismantled one myself but because it was so simple I just took the other in assembled. In pressing the armature out the auto electrician broke one of the magnets and dislodged two others. I have been unable to source in NZ a new magnet so far, or a motor for that matter. I have got a price from amel but does anyone know of another source for the leroy somer 24 volt DC motors for the mainsail furler or for a magnet?
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand



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Re: [Amel] main furler motor

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Frank, I do use them soツI will give them a call.
Regards
Danny

From: "bootlegger@mailasail.com" <bootlegger@mailasail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 14 May 2012 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] main furler motor


Danny

Suggest that furler motor is an adapted Renault, Peugot or Citroen. Try to talk to Ray Roberts at Riverside Marina Wangerai. Hope this helps.

Frank Newton

SM 321 Bootlegger of Mann
La Rochelle
France
------Original Message------
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
To: amel owners
ReplyTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] main furler motor
Sent: 13 May 2012 22:52

Hi All
As part of my preparations for going offshore again I was going to replace the brushes in the sail control motors and saw that the armature where the brushes run was worn so I took the furler and outhaul motors off to have them skimmed. I dismantled one myself but because it was so simple I just took the other in assembled. In pressing the armature out the auto electrician broke one of the magnets and dislodged two others. I have been unable to source in NZ a new magnet so far, or a motor for that matter. I have got a price from amel but does anyone know of another source for the leroy somer 24 volt DC motors for the mainsail furler or for a magnet?
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

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Re: [Amel] main furler motor

bootlegger@...
 

Danny

Suggest that furler motor is an adapted Renault, Peugot or Citroen. Try to talk to Ray Roberts at Riverside Marina Wangerai. Hope this helps.

Frank Newton

SM 321 Bootlegger of Mann
La Rochelle
France

------Original Message------
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
To: amel owners
ReplyTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] main furler motor
Sent: 13 May 2012 22:52

Hi All
As part of my preparations for going offshore again I was going to replace the brushes in the sail control motors and saw that the armature where the brushes run was worn so I took the furler and outhaul motors off to have them skimmed. I dismantled one myself but because it was so simple I just took the other in assembled. In pressing the armature out the auto electrician broke one of the magnets and dislodged two others. I have been unable to source in NZ a new magnet so far, or a motor for that matter. I have got a price from amel but does anyone know of another source for the leroy somer 24 volt DC motors for the mainsail furler or for a magnet?
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

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main furler motor

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi All
As part of my preparations for going offshore again I was going to replace the brushes in the sail control motors and saw that the armature where the brushes run was worn so I took the furler and outhaul motors off to have them skimmed. I dismantled one myself but because it was so simple I just took the other in assembled. In pressing the armature out the auto electrician broke one of the magnets and dislodged two others. I have been unable to source in NZ a new magnet so far, or a motor for that matter. I have got a price from amel but does anyone know of another source for the leroy somer 24 volt DC motors for the mainsail furler or for a magnet?
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand


Re: [Amel] Re: Striptease in bed

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Hey Dave,



Yea Yea, we know, the name of our boat and the email just seem synonymous!
These porn clips keep getting posted to Facebook (it looks like we are
posting them), I have changed my password and tightened security settings.
Then yesterday when George accessed his yahoo account someone accessed his
entire contact list and sent out the striptease porn email. All this
started when I clicked on a socialcam video posted on Facebook by another
Amel owner, showing a shark attack filmed by helicopter. Beware when
opening any videos by Socialcam. That is where all this started.



Kim and George Cerillo



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave_Benjamin
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 11:38 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Striptease in bed





I find some humor in the fact your boat is named "Indecent" with the subject
line of the malicious email being what it is. These email hacks happen all
too often.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Kimberly Cerillo"
<kcvabeach@...> wrote:

This is a malicious email being sent fraudulently from my email account.
My
apologies for any inconveniences.





George Cerillo



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Re: Striptease in bed

Dave_Benjamin
 

I find some humor in the fact your boat is named "Indecent" with the subject line of the malicious email being what it is. These email hacks happen all too often.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Cerillo" <kcvabeach@...> wrote:

This is a malicious email being sent fraudulently from my email account. My
apologies for any inconveniences.





George Cerillo



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Re: Late Maramu or early Santorin?

Craig Briggs
 

We picked the Santorin back in 1999, but since both are now 20-25 years old, the Santorin being newer may be less of a factor, although the Santorin has the "modern" hull design and the "C" drive. IMO the Santorin is easier to move about in the cockpit and perhaps more "airy" down below. Beyond that, of course, would be how each surveys and then it may simply be like choosing between chocolate and vanilla - both are good.
Good luck with it,
Craig Briggs SN#68 SANGARIS

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alex" <uster@...> wrote:

Considering both have in-mast furling & bow thruster, I would like some opinions on choosing an 1988/89 Maramu or a 1990/1991 Santorin which are closed in price.


Life raft mounting options

islandbwoy4434
 

As the new owners of a Super Maramu we have started looking at what we might wish to modify on our 1997 vessel. One area of focus is the port side mid ship locker that houses the life raft. I have tried to lift the EV EV8P life raft out of the locker and found it nearly impossible to do so. In addition, the life raft IMO takes up good storage space and as such I would like to mount it externally on the decks. We have had a canister raft mounted on the front deck of our beloved Westsail 32. This arrangement was ok but not ideal as the canister still had to be lifted over the lifelines to deploy.
In browsing pictures of the new Amel 64, I spotted a nice installation on the Starboard side life line (or rail as it is solid)
Has anyone seen this arrangement first hand? Can anyone provide details on how this unit is constructed and functions? Does anyone have any close up pictures of the assembly?

Terry&Dena
SV Libby.


Re: [Amel] Late Maramu or early Santorin?

Jp
 

No doubt, you must take a maramu

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...> wrote:

Alex,
テつテつテつテつテつ We have a Santorin, and, several years ago, spent a short time moored next to a Maramu. Naturally, we were interested in the difference, apart from the fact that we had the sloop variant of the Santorin and the Maramu was a ketch.
テつテつ From our recollection, most of the small differences were in the deck configuration and the internal layout, and as such it is a matter of personal preference. The Santorin had a better lazarette, and the internal layout was "more open". I'm sure there are other differences, butthat's all we can remember, but both are good boats, so if you can go on board both, you'll be able to decide which you prefer.


Hope this helps

Mike
SN 027



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From: Alex <uster@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:23 AM
Subject: [Amel] Late Maramu or early Santorin?


テつ
Considering both have in-mast furling & bow thruster, I would like some opinions on choosing an 1988/89 Maramu or a 1990/1991 Santorin which are closed in price.




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Re: [Amel] Late Maramu or early Santorin?

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

Alex,
ツツツツツ We have a Santorin, and, several years ago, spent a short time moored next to a Maramu. Naturally, we were interested in the difference, apart from the fact that we had the sloop variant of the Santorin and the Maramu was a ketch.
ツツ From our recollection, most of the small differences were in the deck configuration and the internal layout, and as such it is a matter of personal preference. The Santorin had a better lazarette, and the internal layout was "more open". I'm sure there are other differences, butthat's all we can remember, but both are good boats, so if you can go on board both, you'll be able to decide which you prefer.


Hope this helps

Mike
SN 027



________________________________
From: Alex <uster@rocketmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:23 AM
Subject: [Amel] Late Maramu or early Santorin?



Considering both have in-mast furling & bow thruster, I would like some opinions on choosing an 1988/89 Maramu or a 1990/1991 Santorin which are closed in price.




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Late Maramu or early Santorin?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Considering both have in-mast furling & bow thruster, I would like some opinions on choosing an 1988/89 Maramu or a 1990/1991 Santorin which are closed in price.


generator

wintherdeb <wintherdeb@...>
 

Anyone able to put us in contact with someone who knows about the Lazer generator 4.5 kw circuit board in the power box? Ours has blown with a short circuit under one of the relays while the generator was getting a general service this week and the service guys aren't familiar with this model. We recently purchased SM#102 and are learning her electrical system. Any advice welcome.


Re: [Amel] Re: Dessalinator model D50 50 l/h

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Gary, I also use SMB when I pickle my water maker. I have been using it for years. I use less then the amount specified, because someone told me that too much of the product could be harmful. I haven't had any problems. The product is recommend by the water maker companies. You don't say what product you would recommend to replace it with? I'm willing to change if there is something better. Are you saying we don't need to pickle the unit? John "Moon Dog" SM248




To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: no_reply@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:44:04 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: Dessalinator model D50 50 l/h







Hi Hans-Joachim:

I am glad to hear that your water maker is working after such a prolonged period of disuse. Where was the boat located during the time the water maker was pickled? Ours was in the Caribbean and with the boat closed up, especially when it was on the hard during hurricane season the temperatures in the boat become really high. I believe the extremely high temps in combination with the sodium meta-bisulfite accelerated the corrosive effects. If you look in the pictures section of this forum under Dessalator (about the 4th page of pictures) you will see the interconnect bobbin from our membranes that shows the type of corrosion I am speaking of. Additionally, our low pressure water pump suffered extensive intergranular corrosion of the shaft and had to be replaced. None of this showed up as a failure of the system but was discovered during routine maintenance. Since ceasing to use the sodium meta-bisulfite we have seen no further symptoms like this.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona SM #335
Oyster Pond Marina, Sint Maarten

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Hans-Joachim" <Dr.Hofschulte@...> wrote:

Hallo friends,
I would like to tell you about our expirience with the watermaker Duo 60 from dessalinator.
The wm was pickled for 7 ( seven ) years with sodium meta-bisulfite - no corrosion , nothing was destroyed- . We start the wm after seven years. We flush for 15 minutes with fresh water and then we start
carefully producing water. We run the wm for 2 hours and the quality of the water was really good. I tasted the water and I am still alive.

Greetings to all of you.

Hans-Joachim SM #436 Lisboa





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