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Re: better going to weather

Barry <seagasm@...>
 

We have an opportunity to fly out soon for 6 months in Malaysia, Tradewinds will remain in Bundaberg Danny, we too will be sailing to Indonesia and Malaysia 2013, we should catch up somewhere down the track.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Enjoy your sailing, we are going from New Zealand to the Pacific Islands at the beginning of July, possibly returning to NZ in November OR leave Ocean Pearl in Bundaberg Australia for the summer months and then to Darwin and on up into Asia. Will see how it rolls out.
regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Jose Venegas <jvenegas@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: better going to weather


 
Those were excellent suggestions Danny. I particularly liked your idea of filling in the slot between the keel and the sail drive. It makes a lot of sense. What material did you use? My boat will be launched next weekend and I will have the chance to add it this week. After that two more weeks and off we go to Spain.

Jose Gabriel Venegas
2 Hawthorne Place Apt. 15D
Boston, MA 02114

Phones:
Home 781 598 3861
Mobil: 781 632 6788
Office:617 726 8832

jvenegas@...

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Re: [Amel] mizzen outhaul car

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Pat,

Check this photo out for Bebe #387:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1650688738/pic/1901257222/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

Could be exactly what you want.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Fethiye, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, sailw32@... wrote:

George, The shackle is fine, the ball bearings are shot or gone and the car
drags.I found a U.S. dealer, they want me to take track measurements and
photos. I thought a part or model number would guarantee I order the right
car.

Thanks, Pat



Re: [Amel] Re: better going to weather

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Enjoy your sailing, we are going from New Zealand to the Pacific Islands at the beginning of July, possibly returning to NZ in November OR leave Ocean Pearl in Bundaberg Australia for the summer months and then to Darwin and on up into Asia. Will see how it rolls out.
regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Jose Venegas <jvenegas@alum.mit.edu>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: better going to weather


 
Those were excellent suggestions Danny. I particularly liked your idea of filling in the slot between the keel and the sail drive. It makes a lot of sense. What material did you use? My boat will be launched next weekend and I will have the chance to add it this week. After that two more weeks and off we go to Spain.

Jose Gabriel Venegas
2 Hawthorne Place Apt. 15D
Boston, MA 02114

Phones:
Home 781 598 3861
Mobil: 781 632 6788
Office:617 726 8832

jvenegas@alum.mit.edu

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Re: [Amel] Re: Fuel tank conversion

Eric Freedman
 

I have been insured with Brown and Brown in Ft Lauderdale as per Joels recomendation
.They have insured Kimberlite for 10 tears without any problems.
Fair winds
Eric SM 376 Kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: WilliamR
Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:47 am
Subject: [Amel] Re: Fuel tank conversion
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Thank you. We are US DOCUMENTED boat. Seems the insurance
companies want the changes made but I am with you. Should be
original construction as controlling factor.

Bill

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin"
wrote:

William,

I don't know where your boat is registered but here in the US
there is no requirement to convert the tank to "comply with
regulations" unless the boat is a CG inspected vessel carrying
passengers for hire. Amels have sailed for decades with the
existing configuration. I don't see a reason to change it unless
there's a problem. Some surveyors are alarmist in nature. The
truth of the the matter is, at least here in the US, that the
boat really has to be evaluated according to the standards in
place at time of manufacture.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "WilliamR"
wrote:

Any one do the conversion from bottom of tank draw to top of
tank draw to comply with regulations. What is the suggested process?


Re: [Amel] mizzen outhaul car

Patrick McAneny
 

George, The shackle is fine, the ball bearings are shot or gone and the car
drags.I found a U.S. dealer, they want me to take track measurements and
photos. I thought a part or model number would guarantee I order the right
car.

Thanks, Pat


Re: Fuel tank conversion

Dave_Benjamin
 

Bill,

We are insured with Pantaenius and have recommended them to friends and fellow cruisers. Perhaps they will take a more realistic view. Alternatively you could ask your "surveyor" to amend the survey more in line with standard practice.

Here's the info on Pantaenius. I have no relationship with them other than being a satisfied customer. We had some friends insure with them that were struck by lightning a few months later. They reported the claims process to be pleasant and quite fair. In fact, Pantaenius left the claim open for a year in case any other damages were discovered later.

Cathy Masiello
Pantaenius America, Ltd.
500 Mamaroneck Avenue
Harrison, NY 10528
Phone:914.381.2066
Fax: 914.381.2052
Mail:cmasiello@pantaenius.com
http://www.pantaenius.us

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "WilliamR" <leonorebt@...> wrote:

Thank you. We are US DOCUMENTED boat. Seems the insurance companies want the changes made but I am with you. Should be original construction as controlling factor.

Bill

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@> wrote:

William,

I don't know where your boat is registered but here in the US there is no requirement to convert the tank to "comply with regulations" unless the boat is a CG inspected vessel carrying passengers for hire. Amels have sailed for decades with the existing configuration. I don't see a reason to change it unless there's a problem. Some surveyors are alarmist in nature. The truth of the the matter is, at least here in the US, that the boat really has to be evaluated according to the standards in place at time of manufacture.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "WilliamR" <leonorebt@> wrote:

Any one do the conversion from bottom of tank draw to top of tank draw to comply with regulations. What is the suggested process?


Re: [Amel] mizzen outhaul car

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Hi Patrick,



We contacted Antal about this as many of the outhaul cars on the mizzen boom
fail due to the shackle breaking, This is the post I put out on the website:



OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE



Antal, manufacture of the Outhaul mizzen car has responded to our inquiry
with
the following:

"The bottom line is that since the car was put on your boat a number of
things
have
been changed/upgraded. Antal confirmed that they never put a High Load
shackle
in the car, no need for it as the WL of a standard shackle matched the WL of
the
car.

Antal also recommend that the clew of the sail is not directly attached to
the
car,
the car should have an attachment point for a line and a block mounted on
it.
Most common set-up is that a line is dead-ended on the car, then goes up to
the
sail
where a clew block should be present, the line goes thru the clew block,
then
back
to the car where the line is ran thru the block, then the line goes aft to
the
end of the
boom where it is ran thru a sheave, then forward thru the boom (or on the
outside)
the a winch for adjustment.
Believe that this is the set-up used on the current boats."

We have been offered a replacement for $142 + shipping. Which we have
accepted.

Here is the contact information for Antal US -

siebe@euromarinetrading.com



George and Kimberly Cerillo

SM2K #353 Indecent









From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] mizzen outhaul car





I need to replace the Antal outhaul car on my mizzen boom. It is probably
original and my SM is a 1994. Does anyone have a model or part number.
Thanks, Pat SM #123


Re: [Amel] Re: Fuel tank conversion

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi for one thing your fuel pump will NOT draw from the top. Second the tank is not designed or baffled for top drawing. Who ever did the survey should have noted the fuel shutoff valve at the bottom of the tank and the linkage to the living area. This allows turn off in the event of a leak or fire. You are welcome to quote this to your insurance firm.

Regards Sm 209 for sale in ANNAPOLIS

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On May 30, 2012, at 10:47, "WilliamR" <leonorebt@earthlink.net> wrote:

Thank you. We are US DOCUMENTED boat. Seems the insurance companies want the changes made but I am with you. Should be original construction as controlling factor.

Bill

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

William,

I don't know where your boat is registered but here in the US there is no requirement to convert the tank to "comply with regulations" unless the boat is a CG inspected vessel carrying passengers for hire. Amels have sailed for decades with the existing configuration. I don't see a reason to change it unless there's a problem. Some surveyors are alarmist in nature. The truth of the the matter is, at least here in the US, that the boat really has to be evaluated according to the standards in place at time of manufacture.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "WilliamR" <leonorebt@> wrote:

Any one do the conversion from bottom of tank draw to top of tank draw to comply with regulations. What is the suggested process?






Re: Fuel tank conversion

WilliamR <leonorebt@...>
 

Thank you. We are US DOCUMENTED boat. Seems the insurance companies want the changes made but I am with you. Should be original construction as controlling factor.

Bill

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

William,

I don't know where your boat is registered but here in the US there is no requirement to convert the tank to "comply with regulations" unless the boat is a CG inspected vessel carrying passengers for hire. Amels have sailed for decades with the existing configuration. I don't see a reason to change it unless there's a problem. Some surveyors are alarmist in nature. The truth of the the matter is, at least here in the US, that the boat really has to be evaluated according to the standards in place at time of manufacture.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "WilliamR" <leonorebt@> wrote:

Any one do the conversion from bottom of tank draw to top of tank draw to comply with regulations. What is the suggested process?


mizzen outhaul car

Patrick McAneny
 

I need to replace the Antal outhaul car on my mizzen boom. It is probably original and my SM is a 1994. Does anyone have a model or part number.
Thanks, Pat SM #123


Re: [Amel] Plastic engine blower duct vent louvered covers

Steve Leeds
 

Thanks!
Steve


________________________________
From: David Worthington <captaingrey@hotmail.co.uk>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Plastic engine blower duct vent louvered covers


Hi SteveAbout 3 years ago I bought a set of the duct vents direct from the factory, they  were expensive I seem to remember but I couldn't find them anywhere else. I fitted the last one just last week and became aware of how yellow they soon become, the one I fitted last week was pristine whiteDavid Worthington Sharki #148 in Preveza Greece
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: yachtmaccabee@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 03:48:51 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Plastic engine blower duct vent louvered covers




















 


   
     
     
      The Plastic engine blower duct vent louvered covers, marked Nicoll 100 on my Sharki are in need of replacement.  Several years ago I could find these on the Nicoll website but no longer. 



Do anyone know of a source for these?  What have other owners used to cover these large openings?



Steve Leeds

Yacht MACCABEE

Sharki #121





   
   

   
   






                         





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Re: [Amel] MARAMU RUB RAIL REPLACEMENT

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Alex we ordered ours from Amel. When you do be sure to get the fasteners too. Best is to have the boat on the hard in summer so it os easier to work with.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On May 28, 2012, at 19:26, "Alex" <alex.paquin@usa.net> wrote:

Does anyone have any experience replacing the rub rail on a Maramu? Has anyone found a supplier of this item in the USA?

Alex Paquin
SIMPATICO
Maramu #94







Re: Going to Weather

Dave_Benjamin
 

Dennis,

Your solution is fine and has some advantages in that you retain the big genoa for when it makes sense to use. Did you use wire or spectra for the stay? One of the things I'll often tell our customers is that different configurations aren't necessarily right or wrong, but simply a different approach. There's some drawbacks to your arrangement but advantages as well. It obviously works. You've had a good passage to the South Pacific and that's what matters.

My goal has been to use the twins without involving the headsail. My approach requires investment in Facnor hardware, a code zero, modifying the ballooners to have a common luff or building new ones, and construction of a specialized headsail. It's not for the faint of heart. I think it's a great sailplan but not for everyone.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Johns <sbmesasailor@...> wrote:

This discussion has been fascinating and I thought I'd add my "solution" though it may be heresy to Joel and silly to the professional sailmakers out there.
 
I converted Libertad (Maramu #121) into a cutter-rigged ketch with a removable main staysail stay attached to a plate through-bolted to the anchor locker bulkhead (added running backstays as well).  On this stay, I hankon a low cut jib (staysail) that sheets inside the shrouds and yes, I did mount track and cars -no leaks yet.  On long passages (it would clearly be a pain to have to furl the genoa for every tack) on any point between 50 degrees and a beam reach, this sail adds another 1/2 knot of boat speed in wind 15 knots or less (obviously don't need it in wind over that).  I don't do long passages above 50 degrees -I am a gentleman afterall; besides my wife wouldn't stand for it.  I used it frequently in my recent pacific puddle crossing and I suspect I'll be using it for the leg to the Tuamotus which appears to be close to a beam reach.  I also had a stormsail made to hankon as I understand moving this type of sail closer to the center of
the boat is the best position. 
 
The result is I can definitely point higher without stalling but I don't go very fast and I drop the mizzen due to bad air off the main.  However, next time I go to weather I will spend more time trimming  both for the optimal leach shape as Danny has described.
 
Dennis Johns
s/v Libertad
Taiohae, Nuku Hiva
Marquesas, French Polynesia

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Re: Gennaker furling

Dave_Benjamin
 

Mark,

Noted you're in Pangkor. Looks interesting. I've only been as far south as Penang. Malaysia is one of my favorite places. A friend of mine has been operating a small repair and service loft in Langkawi if you need any service work done.

I'll have some rather detailed questions for you so I'll be sending a response to your personal email.

For anyone else trying to decide on which Facnor to use, the chief difference between FX and asym-FX is when we use the FX , the anti-torque luff rope is built into the sail. With the asym-FX, we use a luff rope that is independent of the sail. If a customer is only going to fly one sail, typically a cruising code zero from the furler, we usually go with the FX.

There's some nice options available that are worth of consideration.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sabbatical3" <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Thanks for that info. Which model Facnor did you use? They have the FX and the Asym-FX line. My plan is to convert an existing gennaker (currently in an ATN sock) for use with the Facnor. Did you convert an existing sail? If you know the make and model of the other bits and pieces that are required, please pass that info along. I would like to buy it here in the US before returning to the bost.

Thanks.

Mark Pitt (currently in US)
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419, currently in Pangkor, Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Not on a SM, but there's no difference in the install. You can add a bale to the anchor roller platform and use a friction block (approx $45 USD) on the bottom of the furler to keep it stable. A sprit pushes the tack further forward which is better but not absolutely necessary. Joel Potter probably knows specifics related to install on a SM.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sabbatical3" <mark_pitt@> wrote:

Has anyone installed a gennaker or asymmetric spinnaker furler, like those from Facnor, on a Super Maramu? Any tips or photos would be appreciated. I am wondering if I need a sprit to make this work.

Mark (currently in the US)
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419, currently at Pangkor, Malaysia


Re: Fuel tank conversion

Dave_Benjamin
 

William,

I don't know where your boat is registered but here in the US there is no requirement to convert the tank to "comply with regulations" unless the boat is a CG inspected vessel carrying passengers for hire. Amels have sailed for decades with the existing configuration. I don't see a reason to change it unless there's a problem. Some surveyors are alarmist in nature. The truth of the the matter is, at least here in the US, that the boat really has to be evaluated according to the standards in place at time of manufacture.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "WilliamR" <leonorebt@...> wrote:

Any one do the conversion from bottom of tank draw to top of tank draw to comply with regulations. What is the suggested process?


Re: [Amel] going to weather

karkauai
 

Thanks, Joel, et al.
It is tempting to try different things to go to weather better, but it sounds like one could spend a lot of time and money looking for the holy grail.  Since I have neither (struggling to be able to keep KRISTY and back to working full time for a couple of years to try to get her paid off), I will stay happy with her just as she is.  If (when) I get retired I'll have more time to play with this, and more time to wait for winds going where I want to go.
You guys are great.  This forum is one of the things I like so much about owning an Amel.
Steady as she goes,
Kent
1999 SM 243
KRISTY
Currently Brunswick, GA, USA


________________________________
From: Joel F Potter <jfpottercys@att.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] going to weather



 

Kent, save yourself the trouble, you will reach the same conclusion as we did when we tried “inside the shroud” sheeting of a blade type 100% jib.

I used three boom vangs and connected the bottom parts to the kick strap shackle at the base of the main mast, the u-shaped tack point for the mizzen staysail/ballooner, and the “ear” weldment on the vertical stanchion that you tack the main boom preventer to. I joined the three vangs at “the top” onto a snatch block with the sheet from the headsail in it. This way I could triangulate the lead to put the block where it allowed the most efficient shape for the headsail when pinching up to weather.

Maybe a couple degrees better windward performance in mill pond flat water, but the previously mentioned beautiful big fat keel would then abruptly stall and all was for naught. It chop, the boat would stop and fall off, albeit with a perfectly trimmed but abused headsail!

The bottom was clean, the leading edge of the keel was fair and smooth, but this keel quits ‘flying’ dramatically and suddenly when pushed where it doesn’t like to go.

All the best,

Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: <mailto:jfpottercys@att.net> jfpottercys@att.net

<http://www.yachtworld.com/jfpottercys> www.yachtworld.com/jfpottercys

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] going to weather

Thanks, Dave. If I was to try the barber-hauler, where would I attach it inboard? I'm guessing that the idea is to get a better shape to the jib by bringing the clew in and easing the sheet a bit?
Kent
SM 243
KRISTY

________________________________
From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com <mailto:dave_benjamin%40yahoo.com> >
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] going to weather

Kent,

Bringing the sheet inboard on a masthead rig like ours is not going to hurt the performance of the main. You may get a bit of a bubble but the boat will still be sailing higher and faster. Joel brings up an excellent point about the keel being a limiting factor. You definitely don't confuse the Amel with a Farr 40.

One of the issues with the smaller headsail is what do you do for downwind if you're using the twin poles. Obviously performance would suffer a bit with the smaller genoa. The best answer in my opinion is to join the balooners together with a common luff and fly them from a foil-less furler.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Thanks, Joel,
I'm guessing that leading the clew inboard allows you to ease the sheet a bit for better sail shape? I've not ever seen a barber hauler in action. Where would you attach it inboard? Wouldn't it just backwind the main more? Not much help on my internet search of "barber hauler".
Kent
SM 243
KRISTY



________________________________
From: Joel F Potter <jfpottercys@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject: [Amel] going to weather



You guys ought to change the subject line when you change the subject…

Lots of experimentation has shown that, after a point, the limiting factor in squeezing up to weather is the keel. That big fat beautiful keel that contains all the fresh water and the bilge sump (and is much stronger in a grounding than more performance oriented “skinny” keels that intersect the boats bottom at 90 degrees) is not very efficient and stalls quite quickly when pinching to weather. The 110% Caribbean Blaster blade jib from Super Sailmakers and similar sails like the good one Dave’s company makes really help as they provide better lift without pushing the bow down with too much raw power. The high clew is easier to see under as you steer while listening to your crew scream bloody murder from the increased angle of heel and ‘boom-splash’ as you bang your way to your destination. You can use barber-haulers to bring the sheet lead inboard and this will discourage one from mounting permanent hardware as the cost/complexity/leak
potential is frankly not worth it.

By contrast, the new AMEL 55 has a much more performance oriented keel with a thinner genuine lifting foil section and more of a bulb than the wings we are used to. It has no room to carry the fresh water as before but the boat points higher and foots much better. You can feel the stall approach, like on a Lazer dinghy, and play the stall sweetly with the much more efficient rudder that is mounted much further aft than ever before. The difference was startling to me after having sailed every AMEL big boat from the Meltem to the Mango, Super Maramu, and the 54. Much better performance on every point of sail but I’ll also miss that water tank…

The young guys at AMEL are starting to refer to me as ‘The Geezer’ for my reverence with what came before.

All the best,

Joel

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: <mailto:jfpottercys@...> jfpottercys@...

<http://www.yachtworld.com/jfpottercys> www.yachtworld.com/jfpottercys

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Fuel tank conversion

WilliamR <leonorebt@...>
 

Any one do the conversion from bottom of tank draw to top of tank draw to comply with regulations. What is the suggested process?


Re: [Amel] Re: better going to weather

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I used a sikaflex product. The important thing is to use a product with good adhesion that remains flexible.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Jose Venegas <jvenegas@alum.mit.edu>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: better going to weather


 
Those were excellent suggestions Danny. I particularly liked your idea of filling in the slot between the keel and the sail drive. It makes a lot of sense. What material did you use? My boat will be launched next weekend and I will have the chance to add it this week. After that two more weeks and off we go to Spain.

Jose Gabriel Venegas
2 Hawthorne Place Apt. 15D
Boston, MA 02114

Phones:
Home 781 598 3861
Mobil: 781 632 6788
Office:617 726 8832

jvenegas@alum.mit.edu

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Going to Weather

sbmesasailor
 

This discussion has been fascinating and I thought I'd add my "solution" though it may be heresy to Joel and silly to the professional sailmakers out there.
 
I converted Libertad (Maramu #121) into a cutter-rigged ketch with a removable main staysail stay attached to a plate through-bolted to the anchor locker bulkhead (added running backstays as well).  On this stay, I hankon a low cut jib (staysail) that sheets inside the shrouds and yes, I did mount track and cars -no leaks yet.  On long passages (it would clearly be a pain to have to furl the genoa for every tack) on any point between 50 degrees and a beam reach, this sail adds another 1/2 knot of boat speed in wind 15 knots or less (obviously don't need it in wind over that).  I don't do long passages above 50 degrees -I am a gentleman afterall; besides my wife wouldn't stand for it.  I used it frequently in my recent pacific puddle crossing and I suspect I'll be using it for the leg to the Tuamotus which appears to be close to a beam reach.  I also had a stormsail made to hankon as I understand moving this type of sail closer to the center of
the boat is the best position. 
 
The result is I can definitely point higher without stalling but I don't go very fast and I drop the mizzen due to bad air off the main.  However, next time I go to weather I will spend more time trimming  both for the optimal leach shape as Danny has described.
 
Dennis Johns
s/v Libertad
Taiohae, Nuku Hiva
Marquesas, French Polynesia


Re: [Amel] Gennaker furling

Eric Freedman
 

Hi ,

We originally flew our gennaker from the eye on the anchor roller but it
bent under the load.

I had a beautiful bow sprit made that sticks out about 24 inches from the
bow. It works wonderfully.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sabbatical3
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 2:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Gennaker furling





Has anyone installed a gennaker or asymmetric spinnaker furler, like those
from Facnor, on a Super Maramu? Any tips or photos would be appreciated. I
am wondering if I need a sprit to make this work.

Mark (currently in the US)
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419, currently at Pangkor, Malaysia