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Hot water heater.

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>

#1115

Hi Gary,
The element is 500 watts. To replace it you will need a new plastic 
seal and an anode.I know because my cylinder is sitting in my 
cockpit awaiting spares from Quick through their local agency in 
Malta who are anything but quick. I suggest you get two lots of 
anodes and seals!!!
This is my second attempt to reply, the first one gave detailed 
instructions on how to do it but got lost as I failed to do the 
reply properly on this system. If you are going to do it yourself 
let me know and I will draft a new set of hints. 
The most important thing to remember is that when you or a tech 
finally gets the thing open, it is essential to work fast at 
descaling as the scale is like butter at first and soon like 
concrete.
One or other part will be descaled first and the other should be 
kept wet until dealt with.
Oh,by the way, the anode is a rod about 10 inches long with a female 
thread in one end and bears no resemblance to the ones that M.Selo 
sent me.

            Good luck,  John Bali Hai, SM319

Hot Water Heater Electric Element Question

amelliahona <no_reply@...>

#1114

Hello All: 
 I have the Amel installed Quick brand B45 (45 liter) hot water 
heater on our hull # 335 Amel SM 2000.  I have been corresponding 
unsuccesfully with Amel for 2 weeks trying to determine the size 
(wattage) of the electric heating element.  I am not currently on the 
boat yet I need to order the proper wattage element.  The data sheet 
for the water heater, that was included with all the other equipment 
manuals, shows it to be a 1200 watt element, but the electric load 
table in the Amel owners manual shows 500 watts.  M. Selo emailed me 
that they are 600 watts, yet the Quick parts manual supplied to me by 
Plastimo USA shows there is not a 600 watt element (only 500 watt and 
1200 watt).  I phoned and faxed all this to Amel but have had no 
response yet.  If I fit a 1200 watt element and the circuit breaker 
is sized only for 500 watts then it will pop the breaker.  If I fit a 
500 watt element when the 1200 watt is appropriate, the water will be 
slow to heat.  

Is anybody on their boat currently that has this same water heater 
and could verify on the element itself what wattage it is?  According 
to Quick the data plate on the water heater should read as 
follows:  "B xx yy z"  , where xx equals the size in liters (45 in 
this case), yy equals the wattage of the electric element (00= none, 
05 = 500 watts, 12 = 1200 watts) , and z equals S indicating that a 
heat exchanger is present. 

Optionally could anyone at least tell me what amperage the water 
heater circuit breaker is? 

I believe there is a small data plate on the end of the brown 
thermostat housing on the water heater that might reveal the proper 
wattage.

Or could someone use a clamp style amp meter to measure the AC amps 
that their water heater draws while using 220 volt AC.

Thanks for any help.

Gary Silver,  s/v Liahona  Amel SM 2000   #335   The boat is 
currently in Providenciales (aka Provo), TCI (Turks and Caicos 
Islands)

Re: Bowthruster 2nd part

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>

#1113

I am glad to see that you have resolved your problem. However as a 
general comment it is possible to get a motor rewound thus bringing 
back to its original performance at a fraction of the cost of a new 
motor.There are specialist companies to do this in most large towns 
and harbours around the world. Although it is a bit late you might 
consider getting the old motor rewound to have as a spare. Many 
technicians will not tell you this but are not slow in keeping the 
burnt out motor or alternater so they can get it rewound etc to 
sell it on.
Having owned an Oyster ketch without a bow thruster I often called 
up the marina in advance and asked them to provide a marinero in a 
dinghy to act as a bow thruster and get me into the berth safely. On 
the rare occasions when I had spare crew I put one member in the 
dinghy to see me in. Similarly I have used my dinghy to help others 
into their berths. It can be done by pushing the bow but the 
professionals seem to prefer lashing their dinghy alongside and 
using forward or astern to help you get in safely.

           Best wishes,  Anne and John, Bali Hai SM319       

 amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "dimitriskrassopoulos" <dkra@a...> 
wrote:
Dear All.

As you remember I had over-used the bowthruster and I wish to advise 
you of my experience with that.

After the incident the bowthruster continued to work. I used it five 
times without problem 3hours after the incident the next day of the 
incident and 3days after the incident with an electrician while we 
were trying to evaluate the extend of the damage. I left from the 
marina for the Eastern vacation without any problem using the 
thruster cautiously. When we arrived in Poros 30 nm away and with 
strong side wind I lowered the thruster and it didn't work at all 
without any warning. I was surprised ofcource and we left 
immediatelly for the next harbor Porto-Heli 25 nm away  where I was 
able by coincidence to moor the boat without the thruster. I 
immediattely ordered the new motor in La Rochelle and they shipped 
it same day by UPS to my adress in Athens. When we arrived back it 
was practically impossible to moor the boot as the cross wind was 
over 18 Knots and I put with great difficulty the boot with the bow 
in its moorafter 3 attempts. The boot is completly unmanouvarble 
without the thruster, the combination of the folding propeller with 
the great distance between the prop wash and the rudder make it 
impossible to steer back wards but also straight forward to put the 
boot in the moor.

I was extremeely happy to install the new motor in place exactly the 
same day of our arrival in Kalamaki. It took 3hours to remove the 
old motor and put the new one in place. It can be done with the help 
of another sailor. I put immediattely the boat correctly in its moor.

I want to express my regards to the excellent after sales service in 
La Rochelle and to warn everybody that if the thruster has a problem 
it is better not to approach a harbor that you know that is tight 
and cross wind is expected.

Regards

Dimitris Krassopoulos
SM Alma Libre

Bowthruster 2nd part

dimitriskrassopoulos <dkra@...>

#1112

Dear All.

As you remember I had over-used the bowthruster and I wish to advise 
you of my experience with that.

After the incident the bowthruster continued to work. I used it five 
times without problem 3hours after the incident the next day of the 
incident and 3days after the incident with an electrician while we 
were trying to evaluate the extend of the damage. I left from the 
marina for the Eastern vacation without any problem using the 
thruster cautiously. When we arrived in Poros 30 nm away and with 
strong side wind I lowered the thruster and it didn't work at all 
without any warning. I was surprised ofcource and we left 
immediatelly for the next harbor Porto-Heli 25 nm away  where I was 
able by coincidence to moor the boat without the thruster. I 
immediattely ordered the new motor in La Rochelle and they shipped 
it same day by UPS to my adress in Athens. When we arrived back it 
was practically impossible to moor the boot as the cross wind was 
over 18 Knots and I put with great difficulty the boot with the bow 
in its moorafter 3 attempts. The boot is completly unmanouvarble 
without the thruster, the combination of the folding propeller with 
the great distance between the prop wash and the rudder make it 
impossible to steer back wards but also straight forward to put the 
boot in the moor.

I was extremeely happy to install the new motor in place exactly the 
same day of our arrival in Kalamaki. It took 3hours to remove the 
old motor and put the new one in place. It can be done with the help 
of another sailor. I put immediattely the boat correctly in its moor.

I want to express my regards to the excellent after sales service in 
La Rochelle and to warn everybody that if the thruster has a problem 
it is better not to approach a harbor that you know that is tight 
and cross wind is expected.

Regards

Dimitris Krassopoulos
SM Alma Libre

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] crew needed - maybe

KIMBERLITE <kimberlt@...>

#1111

www.sailopo.com <http://www.sailopo.com/>  provides crew for free. You
would have to join for $200- us.
They can also provide a captain.
Mention my name Eric Freedman
Sm 376 kimberlite

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Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:56 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: AW: [Amel Yacht Owners] crew needed - maybe

Hi Christina,

would love to do the transfer for you myself but I am in the middle of a
ham
licence course and thus will probably not be available for the time you
mentioned.

However I might be able to give you a very good recommendation: A German
company specializing in Yacht deliveries. They have their own skippers
and
normally get the crew through ads in German yachting magazines. This is
usually either free of charge for the owner or very reasonably priced.

I did lots of crewing for them (including a transfer of an SM from La
Rochelle to the Baltic Sea in March ! ) before we bought our own Amel
Maramu
# 143.

What model / hull # are you looking for in FLA ?

Kind regards,

Jochen Hofmann

S/Y Blue Song

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Betreff: [Amel Yacht Owners] crew needed - maybe

Dear all

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in Europe, we are looking for somebody who can sail her to us. Can 
anybody recommend a company or private people/ a crew who can do this?

Unfortunately our jobs make it impossible for us take part in the 
crossing, so we are looking for a good and trustworthy solution.

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] crew needed - maybe

Jochen Hofmann <jochen@...>

#1110

Hi Christina,

would love to do the transfer for you myself but I am in the middle of a ham
licence course and thus will probably not be available for the time you
mentioned.

However I might be able to give you a very good recommendation: A German
company specializing in Yacht deliveries. They have their own skippers and
normally get the crew through ads in German yachting magazines. This is
usually either free of charge for the owner or very reasonably priced.

I did lots of crewing for them (including a transfer of an SM from La
Rochelle to the Baltic Sea in March ! ) before we bought our own Amel Maramu
# 143.

What model / hull # are you looking for in FLA ?

Kind regards,

Jochen Hofmann

S/Y Blue Song

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Von: cjcolclough [mailto:cjcolclough@yahoo.co.uk] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. April 2004 00:04
An: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Amel Yacht Owners] crew needed - maybe

Dear all

We are thinking about buying an Amel in Ft Lauderdale. Since we live 
in Europe, we are looking for somebody who can sail her to us. Can 
anybody recommend a company or private people/ a crew who can do this?

Unfortunately our jobs make it impossible for us take part in the 
crossing, so we are looking for a good and trustworthy solution.

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Best regards to you all

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p.s. we hope to set sail from Ft Lauderdale in May/June 2004.

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crew needed - maybe

cjcolclough <cjcolclough@...>

#1109

Dear all

We are thinking about buying an Amel in Ft Lauderdale. Since we live 
in Europe, we are looking for somebody who can sail her to us. Can 
anybody recommend a company or private people/ a crew who can do this?

Unfortunately our jobs make it impossible for us take part in the 
crossing, so we are looking for a good and trustworthy solution.

Any and all advice would be much appreciated.

Best regards to you all

christina colclough

p.s. we hope to set sail from Ft Lauderdale in May/June 2004.

Chile

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>

#1108

Slightly off the subject, but if any Amel is thinking of heading to Chile there is a wonderful new pilot out by the owners of Suadade III, an Amel Sharki which has cruised Patagonia for the last 8 years.The pilot is called Patagonia & Tierra del Fuego and written by Mariolina Rolfo and Gioirgio Ardrizzi. ISBN 888598634 X.    719 pages. Over 400 anchorages beautifully desribed and charted, lots of excellent colour prints and background information. The authors set out to find a safe anchorage every 5 miles from the entry to Chilean waters in the South all the way to Valdivia and have largely succeded. I think this will rank amongst the best pilot books ever written. Even if you dont intend to sail to Chile it makes great reading. But, beware.....read it and you will want to come! Ian and Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Puerto Montt, Chile.

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Main boom dopwnhaul/preventer

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>

#1107

Hello again Giovanni,
We have now taken some pics to show the arrangement described in my 
message No 1076. 
The pics are now posted at the end of the album.Click on Photos and 
then click on SM319 This will open the album which has 18 pics 
showing some of the stuff described in my message No 897 and Pic Nos
19,20 & 21 show the preventer.
Note that the traveller is still in the centre as we shape the sail 
by adjusting the main sheet and the preventer.
When we gybe the boat we first centre the boom and after gybing ease 
the boom out using the preventer which, by then, is on the windward 
side of the boat. 
We then take up the tension on the leeward preventer to shape the 
sail and avoid the possibility of an accidental crash gybe.
Perhaps we may meet as we will be in Croatia this summer

              Regards, Anne & John  Bali Hai, SM319

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ITT Jabsco Industries - Rule Pump Recall

Roy A. Duddy, Esq. <rduddy.duddylawoffices@...>

#1105

Eric,

They are the live well pumps. I tried to attach the info in the event anyone
uses them.

Roy

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-----Original Message-----
  From: kimberlt [mailto:kimberlt@optonline.net]
  Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:17 PM
  To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ITT Jabsco Industries - Rule Pump
Recall

  Aren't these the bait ( livewell) pumps used on fishing boats ?

  Thanks

  Eric

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  Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:07 PM
  To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ITT Jabsco Industries - Rule Pump Recall

  --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Roy A. Duddy, Esq."
  <rduddy.duddylawoffices@v...> wrote:
  >
  >
  > FYI,
  >
  > Roy
  >
  > 

  Which pump?

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowthruster Problem

Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>

#1104

Hi Achim,

thanks for doing the test. Looks like my recollections were wrong about the
160 amps then. My apologies, and good news for Dimitris. Thank you also for
the info on the fuses. I am not sure that I would like to fit one as the
startup load might trip the fuse just when you really need the bowthruster.
As Dimitris said, it's better to save the boat than the bowthruster.

I have had the mainsail furling motor circuit breaker trip a few times on my
second boat. This never happened with the previous boat. Maybe it is a
combination of the new sails and wetness causing more drag than the Gateff
laminated sails? It only seems to happen in rain. Has anyone else had the
breaker trip when trying to furl the main?

Ian Shepherd

SM 414 Crusader

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hans-Joachim Schröder" <Achimschro@web.de>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowthruster Problem

Hello,

I just read your message regarding the non availability of a fuse. " the
Link 10 instrument is
reading more than 300 Amperes when I moved the joystick of the
thruster."

There are fuses for 300 and 355 amps on the market. The price in Germany is
about 34.- €  for the holding device and 8.- € for the fuse itself. This is
just from a normal yacht equipment dealer.

Hope that helps and happy easter to you too.

Achim Schroeder
Kirk # 81

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowthruster Problem

Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>

#1106

Hi Dimitris,

yes you are right. You don't need expensive equipment to read the current
taken by the bow thruster motor. The Link 10 will show the discharge current
for free.

I may have been mistaken about the 160 amps that I thought the motor
normally draws. It's been several years since I measured it. As I have been
deprived of my boat since last October, I cannot do a test at the moment and
see what it should be, but I am sure that there are others out there who
could operated the joystick and see what current the Link 10 is showing? It
would be a good comparison for you. If they are also showing around 300
amps, then you are probably OK. This seems to fit the calculation. I hope to
be back on board Crusader mid May, and I will do a similar test and let you
know.

As I have to sail to Malta to complete VAT paid formalities, I may well be
in your area after a visit to Croatia. Time for an ouzo or two? Do you have
on board email and SSB?

Fair winds

Yasu

Ian Shepherd (Larnaca Cyprus)

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dimitriskrassopoulos" <dkra@almalibre.gr>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:31 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowthruster Problem

Thanks to all for the support. I really know now more than before.
It is excellent that we have a forum for our boats. So in reply to
Ian I think that Kimberlitt is right the Link 10 instrument is
reading more than 300 Amperes when I moved the joystick of the
thruster.

I know that you have to use the thruster only for small bursts but
it is better to save the boat than the thruster. However I also
thought that there is a fuse to stop the thruster as it is one for
the anchor but there is not any and Amel replied to me that there is
not possible to find a fuse that can withstand all these amperes. So
be beware that you can damage the thruster and run into a fire
disaster if you use it for longer period.

Now I will think my next step. I will use the thruster cautiously
over the Easter vacations and then remove it from the boat for a
closer look by an electrician and decide if I need to buy a new
motor.

Happy Easter to all

Dimitris Krassopoulos
Alma Libre
Hull 370

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Rule "F" Series pumps

Roy A. Duddy, Esq. <rduddy.duddylawoffices@...>

#1101

Listmates,

Sorry about the post. Apparently, I cannot send photos/or copies of complete
pages. The website is: http://www.rule-industries.com/

Roy
Sharki #123
Unwineding
Portsmouth, NH, USA

Duddy Law Offices
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Bedford, NH 03110
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ITT Jabsco Industries - Rule Pump Recall

kimberlt <kimberlt@...>

#1103

Aren't these the bait ( livewell) pumps used on fishing boats ?

Thanks

Eric

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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ITT Jabsco Industries - Rule Pump Recall

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Roy A. Duddy, Esq." 
<rduddy.duddylawoffices@v...> wrote:
 
FYI,

Roy

Which pump?

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Re: ITT Jabsco Industries - Rule Pump Recall

Alejandro Paquin

#1100

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Roy A. Duddy, Esq." 
<rduddy.duddylawoffices@v...> wrote:
 
FYI,

Roy

Which pump?

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ITT Jabsco Industries - Rule Pump Recall

kimberlt <kimberlt@...>

#1102

The balance of this e-mail was not received- please send again-

Fair winds,

Eric'

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From: Roy A. Duddy, Esq. [mailto:rduddy.duddylawoffices@verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:48 PM
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FYI,

Roy

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowthruster Problem

Hans-Joachim Schröder <Achimschro@...>

#1099

Hello,

I just read your message regarding the non availability of a fuse. " the Link 10 instrument is
reading more than 300 Amperes when I moved the joystick of the
thruster."

There are fuses for 300 and 355 amps on the market. The price in Germany is about 34.- €  for the holding device and 8.- € for the fuse itself. This is just from a normal yacht equipment dealer.

Hope that helps and happy easter to you too.

Achim Schroeder
Kirk # 81

ITT Jabsco Industries - Rule Pump Recall

Roy A. Duddy, Esq. <rduddy.duddylawoffices@...>

#1098

FYI,

Roy

Bowthruster Problem

dimitriskrassopoulos <dkra@...>

#1097

Thanks to all for the support. I really know now more than before. 
It is excellent that we have a forum for our boats. So in reply to 
Ian I think that Kimberlitt is right the Link 10 instrument is 
reading more than 300 Amperes when I moved the joystick of the 
thruster. 

I know that you have to use the thruster only for small bursts but 
it is better to save the boat than the thruster. However I also 
thought that there is a fuse to stop the thruster as it is one for 
the anchor but there is not any and Amel replied to me that there is 
not possible to find a fuse that can withstand all these amperes. So 
be beware that you can damage the thruster and run into a fire 
disaster if you use it for longer period.

Now I will think my next step. I will use the thruster cautiously 
over the Easter vacations and then remove it from the boat for a 
closer look by an electrician and decide if I need to buy a new 
motor.

Happy Easter to all 

Dimitris Krassopoulos
Alma Libre
Hull 370

2003 Super Maramu "Gallatea" No Longer For Sale

wcreed2 <wcreed2@...>

#1096

Gallatea is no longer for sale as it is now in the United States.