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Air con fire/smoke

mac.provan <mac.provan@...>
 

Hi,
We have a SM2K, hull#356 lying in Croatia. An excellent yacht. Very recently we had a problem with the aircon and a fortunate resolution that I thought I should bring to the attention of other Amel owners.

In the warmest of Croatian weather we sometimes leave the saloon aircon unit running overnight when in our marina base. There are usually only 2 of us aboard so we leave all internal doors open. It was our last night before an early taxi ride to the airport at the end of our stay. As usual, we awoke early but noticed an unusually strong smell. We made our way to the saloon and found that it and the forepeak were smoke-filled. Electricity was switched off immediately and all hatches opened. The aircon control unit (saloon) had overheated in a big way and was smoldering. I disconnected and took it outside.
I have to admit that SM356 (Ailsa) is the first yacht that I've ever owned (I've had a few) and not fitted a smoke detector. This is now rectified.
The good news is that nobody was hurt (perhaps some purple lips from Charlotte and me - I guess CO released)and that the aircon control unit is still available via Amel.
My message to Amel owners - please fit a smoke detector and when you're at it, if you don't already have a gas detector then fit one of them also.
Could have been worse.
Mac, Ailsa, SM2K, Hull#356


Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Mark Pitt
 

I second Bill's statements. I am 5 1/2 years into a circumnavigation. My Super Maramu is an excellent all around performer and my wife and I feel safe in her whatever the weather. But lots of owners of other boats love the way their boats sail. But compared to the experience of other boat owners who are circumnavigators, no other boat come close to Amel in terms of reliability. It took me a while to figure out why I have to repair my boat so much less than everyone else. It is just better built. There are scores of little things that Amel did to make these boats reliable and easy to repair. When all of our friends on the Sail Indonesia Rally were scrambling to repair things when they get into port, my wife and I were out touring.

Mark Pitt
S/V Sabbatical III, ASM #419

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Earl,

Judy and I own a 2003 Super Maramu. It is really very hard to beat this boat. If I were buying today it would be a late model Super Maramu or an Amel 55. The 54 is OK, but the Super Maramu and the 55 are better. But, of course, I am prejudiced...I truly love BeBe, Super Maramu #387. She has carried us round the world safely including one trip through a small Cyclone near India. While our friends work on their boats, I drink beer...and I really like to drink beer. Oh, I do have to make repairs on BeBe...but no other boat that I have encountered during our circumnavigation is as reliable and as easy to service and maintain.

If I were you I would contact Joel Potter at jfpottercys"at"att.net.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Bozburun, Turkey



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Christophe Lascombes" <c.lascombes@> wrote:

Hi Earl,

why don't you try a Meltem?
See here: http://www.doevemakelaar.nl/en/ships/188/amel-meltem-51

or here : http://uk.boats.com/sailboats/amel-meltem-11329464/

or here: http://uk.boats.com/sailboats/amel-meltem-12261402/


Good winds



Christophe


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----- Original Message -----
From: Look@
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:44 AM
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?



Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.

Earl

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Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Lior <lior246@...>
 

hi bill,
can i ask you what you dont like on the amel 54?
what do you like more on the super maramu?

thanks
lior


ב-12 ביול 2012, בשעה 18:53, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> כתב/ה:

Earl,

Judy and I own a 2003 Super Maramu. It is really very hard to beat this boat. If I were buying today it would be a late model Super Maramu or an Amel 55. The 54 is OK, but the Super Maramu and the 55 are better. But, of course, I am prejudiced...I truly love BeBe, Super Maramu #387. She has carried us round the world safely including one trip through a small Cyclone near India. While our friends work on their boats, I drink beer...and I really like to drink beer. Oh, I do have to make repairs on BeBe...but no other boat that I have encountered during our circumnavigation is as reliable and as easy to service and maintain.

If I were you I would contact Joel Potter at jfpottercys"at"att.net.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Bozburun, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Christophe Lascombes" <c.lascombes@...> wrote:

Hi Earl,

why don't you try a Meltem?
See here: http://www.doevemakelaar.nl/en/ships/188/amel-meltem-51

or here : http://uk.boats.com/sailboats/amel-meltem-11329464/

or here: http://uk.boats.com/sailboats/amel-meltem-12261402/


Good winds



Christophe


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----- Original Message -----
From: Look@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:44 AM
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?



Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.

Earl

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Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Earl,

Judy and I own a 2003 Super Maramu. It is really very hard to beat this boat. If I were buying today it would be a late model Super Maramu or an Amel 55. The 54 is OK, but the Super Maramu and the 55 are better. But, of course, I am prejudiced...I truly love BeBe, Super Maramu #387. She has carried us round the world safely including one trip through a small Cyclone near India. While our friends work on their boats, I drink beer...and I really like to drink beer. Oh, I do have to make repairs on BeBe...but no other boat that I have encountered during our circumnavigation is as reliable and as easy to service and maintain.

If I were you I would contact Joel Potter at jfpottercys"at"att.net.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Bozburun, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Christophe Lascombes" <c.lascombes@...> wrote:

Hi Earl,

why don't you try a Meltem?
See here: http://www.doevemakelaar.nl/en/ships/188/amel-meltem-51

or here : http://uk.boats.com/sailboats/amel-meltem-11329464/

or here: http://uk.boats.com/sailboats/amel-meltem-12261402/


Good winds



Christophe


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----- Original Message -----
From: Look@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:44 AM
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?



Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.

Earl

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The perfect stand for eReaders, iPads, iPhones, tablet computers and other electronic devices.

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[Amel] Re: Fresh water pump pressure problem

Martin <yachtcaduceus@...>
 

Sorry for the great delay in posting the photgraphs. A lot to do with being away from the boat for some time.

The photgrpahs of the acumulator tank and how to find the inflator valve ae now in the gallery under 'Water pump accumlator'.

It is bothobvious and easy when you know what you are looking for, not so if you do not and for the first time.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Caduceus, A54 #56
Norfolk, Virginia, USA

--- In amelyachtowners@..., " Anne and John Hollamby" <annejohnholl@...> wrote:

Hello Martin,
Are you sure that there is not a second pressure tank. On my SM2K it is hidden behind the aft end of the generator.
Good hunting, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM3109

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:23 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Fresh water pump pressure problem



Martin,

Please add the photos Amel sent you to Photos > Photo Albums > Fresh Water System. If you are not familiar how to add them, email them to crew "at" svbebe.com and I will add them for you.

BTW, I am surprised there is not an accumulator near the hot water heater. I assume that Amel must have installed something else to compensate for the increase in water volume due to heating the water.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Martin" <yachtcaduceus@> wrote:
>
> Thank you for all of the very helpful replies to my problem. The problem was correctly identified and once I realised that the boss on the non visble end of the accumulator was in fact a cap over the schrader valve and not part of the pressing correcting the problem was a matter of a few minutes. The bicycle track pump that we carry for our folding cycles has now found another vital role.
>
> For information, the 54 has a single accumulator tank mounted under the water pump. The shrader valve is on the forward end of the tank under a stainless steel screw off cover. The pressure marked on the tank for maximum re-inflation is 1.5 bar, about 22psi.
>
> For the record the Thiery in the after sales department at Amel responded immediately to my request for how to find the valve with three very clear photographs.
>
> Martin Bevan
> Caduceus
> Amel 54 #56
> Fort Lauderdale, Florida
>





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Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Christophe Lascombes <c.lascombes@...>
 

Hi Earl,

why don't you try a Meltem?
See here: http://www.doevemakelaar.nl/en/ships/188/amel-meltem-51

or here : http://uk.boats.com/sailboats/amel-meltem-11329464/

or here: http://uk.boats.com/sailboats/amel-meltem-12261402/


Good winds



Christophe


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----- Original Message -----
From: Look@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:44 AM
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?



Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.

Earl

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Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Look@iPadRing.net <look@...>
 

It's not budget concerns so much...nor do I wish to spend a lot of money
on what I don't need...and on a boat that's just overpriced. I've found
"you get what you pay for".

Catamarans. No real decision on them yet. The problem is extra
maintenance and dual engines. As to size- you're probably correct- we'd
only fit in a cat. Honestly, I think they look really goofy. Again, the
size issues are most important.

Thanks for your ideas, Duncan.

On 07/12/2012 09:02 AM, Duncan wrote:

Earl,

I purchased an A54 last year. So I do not have extensive experience with
the boat and how a group of people can function in the space. On two
occasions I did have friends with family onboard. For a week I had a
family
of 4 and myself..5 people.

I cannot imagine how 7 people, no matter how small they are could fit on a
boat that is essentially designed for 1 to 4 people. I am 65 and solo sail
about half of the time. So maybe my mindset is at the other end of the
spectrum.

With 7 and the real possibility that from time to time other friends will
wish to come along for trips, I have to advice that the Amel is not
the boat
for you. Judging from your comment that a 54 is not in your budget, I have
to advise that you begin to consider a catamaran. The kids will thank you!

On one point you are correct.the Amel will take you around the world

Duncan

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[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your
ideas.

Earl

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Patent Pending



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Assymetrical POLE

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Eric
I noted your recent post on the installation of the A pole. A few questions
What size of sail do you fly on the pole?
Where did you have the work done?
Did they have to raise the existing anchor extension?



Paul LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362
Currently in Bristol RI


Re: [Amel] Sharki roller furler Swivel Mizzen mast

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

Hi Gene,

I've had both mizzen and main swivels rebuilt. Getting them out of the mast is the work. Any machine shop will be able to rebuild/replace the units. There are bearings and seals inside that are easy enough to find. It was the seals that failed on our boat allowing water in and ultimitly corroding the bearings. I also had the machinist install a small grease fitting perhapes not needed but seemed like a good addition at the time. Good luck.

Tom Fisher
SHEILA, Sharki #142

________________________________
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 16:55
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Sharki roller furler Swivel Mizzen mast



Good day all,

Does anyone have a drawing or parts list for the Roller furler swivel mizzen mast?

Mine is in need of a rebuild.

Thanks in advance


Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Earl,



I purchased an A54 last year. So I do not have extensive experience with
the boat and how a group of people can function in the space. On two
occasions I did have friends with family onboard. For a week I had a family
of 4 and myself..5 people.



I cannot imagine how 7 people, no matter how small they are could fit on a
boat that is essentially designed for 1 to 4 people. I am 65 and solo sail
about half of the time. So maybe my mindset is at the other end of the
spectrum.



With 7 and the real possibility that from time to time other friends will
wish to come along for trips, I have to advice that the Amel is not the boat
for you. Judging from your comment that a 54 is not in your budget, I have
to advise that you begin to consider a catamaran. The kids will thank you!



On one point you are correct.the Amel will take you around the world



Duncan



From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Look@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?





Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.

Earl

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Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Look@iPadRing.net <look@...>
 

Richard,

Thanks for the reply. Please send along whatever you find.

Thank you,

Earl

On 07/11/2012 10:55 PM, Richard03801 wrote:


Hi Earl we spoke earlier today regarding an Amel there are a few well
priced 54's that will much more comfortably suit you family. I will
send along a layout.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Jul 11, 2012, at 19:27, "Look@...
<mailto:Look%40iPadRing.net>" <look@...
<mailto:look%40ipadring.net>> wrote:

Kent,

In truth it seems you're correct and I've been looking at increasing
larger and larger boats realizing they just don't have the room to fit 7
comfortably. There are other considerations as well but they needn't be
addressed as yet.

To Amel's compliment is the reputation of a boat very well made and
durable.

Earl

On 07/11/2012 07:21 PM, karkauai@...
<mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com> wrote:
Earl. That's an ambitious, awesome plan. You will be cramped in
any boat in the 50ft range...hope you all get along famously(: You can
probably sleep 3 smaller ones in the Vee berth, one in each of the sea
berths, keeping the aft cabin for Mom and Pop. Most of us limit guests
to two at a time. The SM is really designed for a couple to cruise the
world. Whether you could redesign the forward cabin with bunks so all
could have their own berth and retain enough storage depends on how
much you are willing to alter the boat, how much money you are willing
to spend, and what you feel you can do without.

I hope you can make it work. Sounds like a real challenge, but
great fun and a great family adventure.

I'll be interested to hear what others have to say.
Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Brunswick, GA
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:44:08
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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for
an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear
your ideas.

Earl


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Re: [Amel] Re: Which boat do you recommend?

Look@iPadRing.net <look@...>
 

I freely admit my prejudice- I love Amel 54 ketchs. We'll fit....somehow.

On 07/12/2012 03:28 AM, jjjk12s wrote:

Earl,

I have just read Richard Piller's post and, if it is in your budget,
an Amel 54 does look a good option with the extra cabin. 4 kids up
from in two cabins (maybe a leeboard in the middle of the double berth
in the port cabin) and one kid in the walkway berth and mum and dad in
the aft stateroom...luxury.

John, Popeye Maramu #91

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>, "Look@..." <look@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your
ideas.

Earl



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Re: [Amel] Re: Which boat do you recommend?

Look@iPadRing.net <look@...>
 

John,

Thanks for the comments. I tend to stay away from catamarans though they
do often have the space we would need. A very important issue is
strength of the boat. Amel fits that requirement very well.

Thanks

On 07/12/2012 02:18 AM, jjjk12s wrote:

Earl,

I presume you have done plenty of sailing with the family. I have only
two kids, now 8 and 5 (a poor effort compared to you!) but have been
sailing quite big trips (like several months from Greece to UK) since
the smallest was under 2 years old.

You can get around the lack of berth space by using the saloon for
sleeping but you will have the inconvenience. Alternatively you could
try some modification to make more bunks above the existing ones which
would be fun for the kids (maybe like the canvas ones with poles they
have on some racing yachts) - but such modifications to a Super Maramu
are very much against the grain. If your trip is long and the older
kids start to want more privacy how will they cope sharing space? To
be honest if I were you I would condider something like a 45 ft+
Privilege cat, some of them have 5 cabins and great for family use.

However, the Amels are very good value for such a quality boat and the
uncluttered deck, solid lifelines and safe cockpit are great features
for smaller kids as well as retirees... Most importantly you have to
be able to sail alone if one parent is looking after children, so the
Amel scores there, and I would be wary of other large monohulls unless
you intend to cary an extra crew member (then you need to accommodate
them). As I am sure you are aware boat choice is always a compromise
dictated by your priorities.

I certainly wish you the very best in your plans.

John, Popeye Maramu #91 Port Douglas

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>, "Look@..." <look@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your
ideas.

Earl



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Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Look@iPadRing.net <look@...>
 

Eric,

Thanks for the ideas. See my comments below....


On 07/12/2012 03:04 AM, eric meury wrote:


Earl,

I do not own an Amel but have been on a few. I think that you might
be better suited for a a different boat, perhaps a Mao Ta 46, also
known as a pan oceanic 46 (they also made a 43 and a 38)... The are
designed by Ted BREWER. - Yes it is a smaller lenght but in perhaps
laid out better for a large family.

The 46 sleeps 8. Two cabins plus a double berth (that is also a
table) in the pilot house. In my opinion the largest plus would be
the flush decks that would provide ample "play space" for your kids
while at anchor.

Most that i have seen have teak decks - yuk!!! i did find this one for
sale for

http://syladydiane.wordpress.com/specifications/. it does not have
teak decks.
No teak is good and I love the deck layout...unobstructed.


They do have a skeg hung rudder and the pilot house will give you the
offshore protection that you are seeking in the Amel hard dodger plus
i would imagine it would be difficult to fit 8 people in an Amel
cockpit. The pilot house will may allow all the kids the feeling of
being part of the sail, without having to manage all of them in the
cockpit. - just a thought.
Skeg hung rudder is exactly what I'm looking for.

Excellent idea. I like how the Mao Ta has an aft cockpit and a pilot house



These boats are on my short list if i do not end up with an Amel.
They are the only pilot house boat i have seen that doesn't look like
a motor sailer.

Happy Hunting.

eric J.
You too.



--- On Wed, 7/11/12, Look@... <mailto:Look%40iPadRing.net>
<look@... <mailto:look%40ipadring.net>> wrote:

From: Look@... <mailto:Look%40iPadRing.net>
<look@... <mailto:look%40ipadring.net>>
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 3:44 PM



Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There

are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel

(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel

53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need

sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are

probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail

around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your
ideas.

Earl

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[Amel] Re: Sharki roller furler Swivel Mizzen mast

Joachim
 

Hello on my Sharki
works a bamar system very well
look a the webside of bamar there you can get a new one

regards

Joachim

--- In amelyachtowners@..., geneccarter@... wrote:

1985
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...>
Sender: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:23:56
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: Sharki roller furler Swivel Mizzen mast

What year is your Sharki?


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Gene" <geneccarter@> wrote:

Good day all,

Does anyone have a drawing or parts list for the Roller furler swivel mizzen mast?

Mine is in need of a rebuild.

Thanks in advance




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Re: Which boat do you recommend?

jjjk12s <jjjk12s@...>
 

Earl,

I have just read Richard Piller's post and, if it is in your budget, an Amel 54 does look a good option with the extra cabin. 4 kids up from in two cabins (maybe a leeboard in the middle of the double berth in the port cabin) and one kid in the walkway berth and mum and dad in the aft stateroom...luxury.

John, Popeye Maramu #91

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Look@..." <look@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.

Earl



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Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

eric meury <ericmeury@...>
 

Earl,

I do not own an Amel but have been on a few.  I think that you might be better suited for a a different boat, perhaps a Mao Ta 46, also known as a pan oceanic 46 (they also made a 43 and a 38)...  The are designed by Ted BREWER.  -  Yes it is a smaller lenght but in perhaps laid out better for a large family. 

The 46 sleeps 8.  Two cabins plus a double berth (that is also a table) in the pilot house.  In my opinion the largest plus would be the flush decks that would provide ample "play space" for your kids while at anchor. 

Most that i have seen have teak decks - yuk!!! i did find this one for sale for

http://syladydiane.wordpress.com/specifications/.  it does not have teak decks.

They do have a skeg hung rudder and the pilot house will give you the offshore protection that you are seeking in the Amel hard dodger plus i would imagine it would be difficult to fit 8 people in an Amel cockpit.  The pilot house will may allow all the kids the feeling of being part of the sail, without having to manage all of them in the cockpit.  - just a thought.

These boats are on my short list if i do not end up with an Amel.  They are the only pilot house boat i have seen that doesn't look like a motor sailer.


Happy Hunting.

eric J.

--- On Wed, 7/11/12, Look@... <look@...> wrote:

From: Look@... <look@...>
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 3:44 PM
















 









Hello everyone,



I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There

are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel

(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel

53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need

sleeping space...that's for sure.



Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are

probably the length we'd need.



Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail

around the world in a well built boat.



Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.



Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.



Earl



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Re: Which boat do you recommend?

jjjk12s <jjjk12s@...>
 

Earl,

I presume you have done plenty of sailing with the family. I have only two kids, now 8 and 5 (a poor effort compared to you!) but have been sailing quite big trips (like several months from Greece to UK) since the smallest was under 2 years old.

You can get around the lack of berth space by using the saloon for sleeping but you will have the inconvenience. Alternatively you could try some modification to make more bunks above the existing ones which would be fun for the kids (maybe like the canvas ones with poles they have on some racing yachts) - but such modifications to a Super Maramu are very much against the grain. If your trip is long and the older kids start to want more privacy how will they cope sharing space? To be honest if I were you I would condider something like a 45 ft+ Privilege cat, some of them have 5 cabins and great for family use.

However, the Amels are very good value for such a quality boat and the uncluttered deck, solid lifelines and safe cockpit are great features for smaller kids as well as retirees... Most importantly you have to be able to sail alone if one parent is looking after children, so the Amel scores there, and I would be wary of other large monohulls unless you intend to cary an extra crew member (then you need to accommodate them). As I am sure you are aware boat choice is always a compromise dictated by your priorities.

I certainly wish you the very best in your plans.

John, Popeye Maramu #91 Port Douglas

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Look@..." <look@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.

Earl



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Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Earl we spoke earlier today regarding an Amel there are a few well priced 54's that will much more comfortably suit you family. I will send along a layout.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Jul 11, 2012, at 19:27, "Look@..." <look@...> wrote:

Kent,

In truth it seems you're correct and I've been looking at increasing
larger and larger boats realizing they just don't have the room to fit 7
comfortably. There are other considerations as well but they needn't be
addressed as yet.

To Amel's compliment is the reputation of a boat very well made and durable.

Earl

On 07/11/2012 07:21 PM, karkauai@... wrote:
Earl. That's an ambitious, awesome plan. You will be cramped in any boat in the 50ft range...hope you all get along famously(: You can probably sleep 3 smaller ones in the Vee berth, one in each of the sea berths, keeping the aft cabin for Mom and Pop. Most of us limit guests to two at a time. The SM is really designed for a couple to cruise the world. Whether you could redesign the forward cabin with bunks so all could have their own berth and retain enough storage depends on how much you are willing to alter the boat, how much money you are willing to spend, and what you feel you can do without.

I hope you can make it work. Sounds like a real challenge, but great fun and a great family adventure.

I'll be interested to hear what others have to say.
Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Brunswick, GA
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Look@..." <look@...>
Sender: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:44:08
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.

Earl


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Re: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Look@iPadRing.net <look@...>
 

Kent,

In truth it seems you're correct and I've been looking at increasing
larger and larger boats realizing they just don't have the room to fit 7
comfortably. There are other considerations as well but they needn't be
addressed as yet.

To Amel's compliment is the reputation of a boat very well made and durable.

Earl

On 07/11/2012 07:21 PM, karkauai@... wrote:
Earl. That's an ambitious, awesome plan. You will be cramped in any boat in the 50ft range...hope you all get along famously(: You can probably sleep 3 smaller ones in the Vee berth, one in each of the sea berths, keeping the aft cabin for Mom and Pop. Most of us limit guests to two at a time. The SM is really designed for a couple to cruise the world. Whether you could redesign the forward cabin with bunks so all could have their own berth and retain enough storage depends on how much you are willing to alter the boat, how much money you are willing to spend, and what you feel you can do without.

I hope you can make it work. Sounds like a real challenge, but great fun and a great family adventure.

I'll be interested to hear what others have to say.
Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Brunswick, GA
Sent from my BlackBerry smartphone powered by Alltel

-----Original Message-----
From: "Look@..." <look@...>
Sender: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:44:08
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Which boat do you recommend?

Hello everyone,

I'm not an Amel owner....yet. But I'm looking for your advice. There
are 7 of us in my family (5 kids under 12) and we're looking for an Amel
(ketch) that'll comfortably fit us. I've looked online at various Amel
53 Super Maramu's which look most suitable to me. However, we do need
sleeping space...that's for sure.

Amel's look like a true and strong blue-water cruiser and the 53's are
probably the length we'd need.

Our cruising plans? Well, let's just say we'd like to be able to sail
around the world in a well built boat.

Oh, a new Amel is out of our price range.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas? I sure would like to hear your ideas.

Earl


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