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Re: [Amel] Lisboa

Sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Hi,

We stayed at the Alcantara Marina near the bridge. Lisbon also has an amel
agent there.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Frederic Houdaille
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:40 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Lisboa





Hello Hans-Joachim,
Since you are currently in Lisboa and I am planning to sail there next June
with our SM, I was wondering if you could give me some feedback as to which
marina might be best and how easy (or hard) it was to do the formalities
(we'll be arriving from Azores).
Thanks and have a great day!
Fred
SM 2003 "Zazen"


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From: Hans-Joachim <Dr.Hofschulte@...
<mailto:Dr.Hofschulte%40t-online.de> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:28 AM
Subject: [Amel] fuses DC-panel




Thanks for the information, Bill.
regards,Hans-Joachim
Johanna-Amalthea SM #436 currently in Lisboa


Lisboa

Frederic Houdaille <fhoudaille@...>
 

Hello Hans-Joachim,
Since you are currently in Lisboa and I am planning to sail there next June with our SM, I was wondering if you could give me some feedback as to which marina might be best and how easy (or hard) it was to do the formalities (we'll be arriving from Azores).
Thanks and have a great day!
Fred
SM 2003 "Zazen"


________________________________
From: Hans-Joachim <Dr.Hofschulte@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:28 AM
Subject: [Amel] fuses DC-panel



 

Thanks for the information, Bill.
regards,Hans-Joachim
Johanna-Amalthea SM #436 currently in Lisboa





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fuses DC-panel

dr_hofschulte
 

Thanks for the information, Bill.
regards,Hans-Joachim
Johanna-Amalthea SM #436 currently in Lisboa


Re: fuses DC-panel

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

The DC and AC panels in the SM have French-made thermal circuit-breakers. These are also used throughout the boat.

See the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1949812811/pic/2053838888/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

<<<<<<<<<<<AND>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.wellgainelectronics.com/diruptorddis731053s714220682.aspx

We have replaced 1 of these on #387...it was the Dessalator breaker...it would open under load.

We have spares which we purchased from Amel.

Hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe, #387
Currently Eastern Med

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Hans-Joachim" <Dr.Hofschulte@...> wrote:

hallo all,
do you know the manufacturer of the fuses at the DC-panel ?
(SM2000)
Thanks for information , regards
docjoho, Johanna-Amalthea SM 2000 #436


Re: Wind Generators Comparison

Barry <seagasm@...>
 

Can't seem to edit the broken link here so here it is again:
http://www.naviclub.com/Test_comparatif_eoliennes_marine.pdf

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Barry" <seagasm@...> wrote:

I have been watching with interest, the different comments about wind generators on this site. Back in 2008 we installed on our SM a Rutland 913 at a cost of about $1800.00 AUD incl SS stand secured to the port quarter SS railing. To be honest, I regard this form of accessory a total waste of time and expense. With the availability of better solar panels available, that would be the path I would consider to go down. The other alternative of course is just to burn diesel.

I recently read an article at http://www.naviclub.com/Test_compara...nes_marine.pdf and I suggest those who still want to go down that path read it first. Bear in mind, I believe the test results conducted were relating to a 12volt DC, since our vessels are 24volt DC, divide the results in half. Also, our battery banks are 400AH plus, deduct your average consumption and what do you get????

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


Wind Generators Comparison

Barry <seagasm@...>
 

I have been watching with interest, the different comments about wind generators on this site. Back in 2008 we installed on our SM a Rutland 913 at a cost of about $1800.00 AUD incl SS stand secured to the port quarter SS railing. To be honest, I regard this form of accessory a total waste of time and expense. With the availability of better solar panels available, that would be the path I would consider to go down. The other alternative of course is just to burn diesel.

I recently read an article at http://www.naviclub.com/Test_compara...nes_marine.pdf and I suggest those who still want to go down that path read it first. Bear in mind, I believe the test results conducted were relating to a 12volt DC, since our vessels are 24volt DC, divide the results in half. Also, our battery banks are 400AH plus, deduct your average consumption and what do you get????

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


fuses DC-panel

dr_hofschulte
 

hallo all,
do you know the manufacturer of the fuses at the DC-panel ?
(SM2000)
Thanks for information , regards
docjoho, Johanna-Amalthea SM 2000 #436


Hydrovane Update

rossirossix4
 

I had read several posts in this group regarding the Hydrovane self steering unit. It surprised me because I know several owners who have had stellar experiences with them. Close friends of mine used one for their circumnavigation and used it virtually 100% of the time off shore--including over a 10 days in the Indian Ocean where they mostly would not even venture into their cockpit--sounded awful...anyway, I cut and pasted some of the content of our postings to them and asked for an explanation and received the following.

"We would expect a Hydrovane on your boat to give the same excellent performance that you have heard from others – see the HEAVY BOAT section of our website at http://www.hydrovane.com/OurProduct.html scroll down about 3/4 of the way down the page. There is no reason why an Amel would be different than any other boat …. and your Santorin does not even qualify as a `HEAVY BOAT' in our lexicon. The Hydrovane is indifferent to the boat it is fitted to. It will produce its certain amount of steering power for any boat.

For those boats from which you have heard of Hydrovane problems: The time frame of those issues was after we introduced our new rudder. It took us 2 years including tank testing of the rudder at the University of Southampton to finally discover the problem – some of the rudders were `wonky'. In technical terms we had the shaft hole position of the rudder too near its perfect balance point. When it is perfectly balanced the rudder no longer knows which way is forward. Actually the shaft hole line (projecting the shaft hole to the bottom of the rudder) was too close or maybe even crossed over the COP (Centre of Pressure) of the rudder in the upper half. Worse was the discovery that if the shaft hole direction was as little as a half degree out in the wrong direction the rudder could be unstable. We now believe that both reports you heard were probably bad rudders. See TIPS #7 POOR PERFORMANCE at: http://www.hydrovane.com/Tips.html#7 for our description of the problem and a `recall' of any such bad rudders. The confusing part for us was that so many of those rudders were good performers – but not all of them. In hindsight those other Amel s with problem Hydrovanes only needed a new rudder with a shaft hole in the right position."

Anyway, this may be helpful info for some of you.

Bob
Santorin 86, Brittany de la Mer


Re: Calpeda AC Pump

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

The squealing is the bearings...the water leak is the mechanical seal.

It is a very good and very solid pump also very basic...repair it with new bearings and seal...it will last another 5-8 years...then do it again. Get the water-well shop to also check the impeller...it is metal, but may be in need of replacement, based on the age of your boat. Also, there are some drain plugs on the cast iron pump housing...check these as they tend to deteriorate. Check the check-valve on the output...it probably needs to be replaced as well.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "captain_cucumber_head" <mcerdos@...> wrote:


Thank you for the information. The pump is running a little rough and makes an occasional squeal. It has also leaked a very tiny amount of water. This leads me to the bearings and seals as a good place to start. I had never thought of a well water shop; what a great idea. I'll buy a new capacitor while I'm at it. It seems to me that this would be a good item in the spare parts bag just to keep Murphy away. Thanks again!

Mark

Cream Puff
SM #275



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "captain_cucumber_head" <mcerdos@> wrote:

Hi,

I am hoping someone can help me with the model number of the blue Calpeda 220vac pump used for salt water cooling of the AC units. The brass plate on my pump is corroded and I am not able to clearly see the specs. This is for a 1999/2000 model SM. Thanks.

Mark

Cream Puff
SM #275


Re: Calpeda AC Pump

Mark Erdos
 

Thank you for the information. The pump is running a little rough and makes an occasional squeal. It has also leaked a very tiny amount of water. This leads me to the bearings and seals as a good place to start. I had never thought of a well water shop; what a great idea. I'll buy a new capacitor while I'm at it. It seems to me that this would be a good item in the spare parts bag just to keep Murphy away. Thanks again!

Mark

Cream Puff
SM #275

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "captain_cucumber_head" <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Hi,

I am hoping someone can help me with the model number of the blue Calpeda 220vac pump used for salt water cooling of the AC units. The brass plate on my pump is corroded and I am not able to clearly see the specs. This is for a 1999/2000 model SM. Thanks.

Mark

Cream Puff
SM #275


AC Pump Hose Clamp Failure

karkauai
 

A note about the A/C pump:  I was at the dock with two A/C's going and doing some maintenance in the forward cabin when the A/C started cycling as if it weren't getting any cooling water.  I looked at the bilge pump light and it was on steadily.  Quickly shut off the A/C's and looked in the engine room to find water pouring out of the output side of the A/C pump where the 2 stainless hose clamps had failed due to rusting and the hose had popped off.  The bilge pump was keeping up, but water was coming out at a remarkable rate even with the pump off...can't imagine what it looked like with the pump running.  Just about the time that I closed the seacock off, the bilge pump started whining and stopped pumping due to failure of one of the valves.  If I'd been off the boat and just gone for an hour or two, the engine room would have been full and everything in it covered in sea water.
 
I've also had a hose on the genset pop off due to corroded/broken hose clamps, too.  They break but hold their shape so you can't see there's a problem until the second one breaks and water starts pouring in.  Part of my routine maintenance is now going to be changing the hose clamps on a regular basis.  I'm also going to rethink leaving the boat even for a few hours with the sea cocks open.
 
Hope this saves someone a serious problem.
Kent
SM 243
KRISTY
Currently Brunswick GA


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From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:52 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Calpeda AC Pump

 
Mark,

Check the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/154718279/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

Also, the mechanical pump seal and the bearings are easy to replace. Usually, when the seal starts leaking, some salt water ruins the bearing closest to the pump. If you need 1 bearing, replace both of them. If you are not sure about rebuilding the pump, take it to a water-well pump shop or a swimming pool equipment repair facility. The water-well pump shop will be much better. They can rebuild the pump for you...the bearings and seal are standard sizes. If the pump has failed, you probably need a new capacitor...see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/58456993/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
A suitable replacement can be found at most any electrical supply store.

If you are looking to replace the Calpeda: Basic rule of thumb: 1 gallon per minute (GPM) is required for every 4,000 Btu's of capacity.
I believe each of the A/C units are 9,000btu.

9,000 * 3 = 27,000/4,000= 6.75gal/min * 3.785=25.55liters/min * 60 = 1,532 liters/hour....6,75gal/min * 60 = 405gal/hour

I rebuilt our Calpeda in Penang, Malaysia...easily found all of the parts, had a motorcycle repair shop press the new bearings on the shaft.

Hope this helps,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Eastern Med


--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, "captain_cucumber_head" <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Hi,

I am hoping someone can help me with the model number of the blue Calpeda 220vac pump used for salt water cooling of the AC units. The brass plate on my pump is corroded and I am not able to clearly see the specs. This is for a 1999/2000 model SM. Thanks.

Mark

Cream Puff
SM #275



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Re: Calpeda AC Pump

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Mark,

Check the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/154718279/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

Also, the mechanical pump seal and the bearings are easy to replace. Usually, when the seal starts leaking, some salt water ruins the bearing closest to the pump. If you need 1 bearing, replace both of them. If you are not sure about rebuilding the pump, take it to a water-well pump shop or a swimming pool equipment repair facility. The water-well pump shop will be much better. They can rebuild the pump for you...the bearings and seal are standard sizes. If the pump has failed, you probably need a new capacitor...see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/58456993/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
A suitable replacement can be found at most any electrical supply store.

If you are looking to replace the Calpeda: Basic rule of thumb: 1 gallon per minute (GPM) is required for every 4,000 Btu's of capacity.
I believe each of the A/C units are 9,000btu.

9,000 * 3 = 27,000/4,000= 6.75gal/min * 3.785=25.55liters/min * 60 = 1,532 liters/hour....6,75gal/min * 60 = 405gal/hour

I rebuilt our Calpeda in Penang, Malaysia...easily found all of the parts, had a motorcycle repair shop press the new bearings on the shaft.

Hope this helps,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Eastern Med



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "captain_cucumber_head" <mcerdos@> wrote:

Hi,

I am hoping someone can help me with the model number of the blue Calpeda 220vac pump used for salt water cooling of the AC units. The brass plate on my pump is corroded and I am not able to clearly see the specs. This is for a 1999/2000 model SM. Thanks.

Mark

Cream Puff
SM #275


Re: Calpeda AC Pump

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

Check the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/154718279/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

Also, the mechanical pump seal and the bearings are easy to replace. Usually, when the seal starts leaking, some salt water ruins the bearing closest to the pump. If you need 1 bearing, replace both of them. If you are not sure about rebuilding the pump, take it to a water-well pump shop or a swimming pool equipment repair facility. The water-well pump shop will be much better. They can rebuild the pump for you...the bearings and seal are standard sizes. If the pump has failed, you probably need a new capacitor...see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/324976668/pic/58456993/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
A suitable replacement can be found at most any electrical supply store.

If you are looking to replace the Calpeda: Basic rule of thumb: 1 gallon per minute (GPM) is required for every 4,000 Btu's of capacity.
I believe each of the A/C units are 9,000btu.

9,000 * 3 = 27,000/4,000= 6.75gal/min * 3.785=25.55liters/min * 60 = 1,532 liters/hour....6,75gal/min * 60 = 405gal/hour

I rebuilt our Calpeda in Penang, Malaysia...easily found all of the parts, had a motorcycle repair shop press the new bearings on the shaft.

Hope this helps,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Eastern Med

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "captain_cucumber_head" <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Hi,

I am hoping someone can help me with the model number of the blue Calpeda 220vac pump used for salt water cooling of the AC units. The brass plate on my pump is corroded and I am not able to clearly see the specs. This is for a 1999/2000 model SM. Thanks.

Mark

Cream Puff
SM #275


Re: Calpeda AC Pump

Rink De Haan
 

To be more precise it is the CM-20 with article number 08.811.203 (at least at their catalogue).


Re: [Amel] File Under: Stuff you may not care to know

Sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

What a novel idea to catch drinking water.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of captain_cucumber_head
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] File Under: Stuff you may not care to know





Did you know if you turn the boom over to work on the outhaul motor and you
leave it upside-down in the rain for a couple of days, the boom fills up
with water :-)


Re: Calpeda AC Pump

Rink De Haan
 

Hi Mark,

The calpeda pump on our SM2000 #330 is the CM-20 Centrifugal Pump Model BMP-35.

I bought my in Holland at www.barcomarine.nl
It was about €500. But they could rebuild it for €250.

Hope this is helpful.

Rink
SM2K #330 Razor's Edge




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Re: [Amel] Bilge Pump

karkauai
 

Hi, Martin,
That's the pump I put on my boat.  I used a 1 inch hose on the barbs and that fit nicely into the larger hoses coming from the bilge and output.  I had to fashion an L-shaped shelf that fit where the old pump was mounted and used all the same wiring.  I've had two of the valves fail in the last 2 years.  The rubber valves are fine but the small "rivet" connector is poorly crimped on all of them.  I've peened it a bit more on the replacement valves since the second one failed but I'm not convinced that will be enough.  Next one that fails, I'm going to replace the "rivet" with a small stainless bolt and nylon washer which should last a long time.  I'd buy at least one more set of valves if that's the pump you decide to go with.  Too bad the valves are poorly designed/made, the pump is otherwise robust and should last a long time.

Sorry, no pics with me.  Dont know when I'll be back on the boat, but I can take a pic of the installation and send it to you next time I'm there.

Hope this helps.
Kent
SM 243
KRISTY




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From: Martin <yachtcaduceus@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Bilge Pump


 
The gearing on our Reya/AMFA bilge pump has broken and as we are in the USA rather than spend a long time getting the parts or a new pump I am considering replacing it with a Jabasco pump for which spare parts are more universally obtainable.

I have found a 24v belt driven Jabasco pump (34600) but note that this only has 1 inch inlet and outlets rather than the slightly larger ones on the Reya pump used by AMEL. I see from the thread 2 years ago that various replacements have been used. Can anyone advise please and if you have a satisfactory replacement perhaps some photographs of the installation.

Thanks,
Martin Bevan
Caduceus
Amel 54 #56




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Re: [Amel] Bilge Pump

Martin <yachtcaduceus@...>
 

The gearing on our Reya/AMFA bilge pump has broken and as we are in the USA rather than spend a long time getting the parts or a new pump I am considering replacing it with a Jabasco pump for which spare parts are more universally obtainable.

I have found a 24v belt driven Jabasco pump (34600) but note that this only has 1 inch inlet and outlets rather than the slightly larger ones on the Reya pump used by AMEL. I see from the thread 2 years ago that various replacements have been used. Can anyone advise please and if you have a satisfactory replacement perhaps some photographs of the installation.

Thanks,
Martin Bevan
Caduceus
Amel 54 #56


File Under: Stuff you may not care to know

Mark Erdos
 

Did you know if you turn the boom over to work on the outhaul motor and you leave it upside-down in the rain for a couple of days, the boom fills up with water :-)


Calpeda AC Pump

Mark Erdos
 

Hi,

I am hoping someone can help me with the model number of the blue Calpeda 220vac pump used for salt water cooling of the AC units. The brass plate on my pump is corroded and I am not able to clearly see the specs. This is for a 1999/2000 model SM. Thanks.

Mark

Cream Puff
SM #275