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Re: [Amel] TDS in the Eastern Med

Ian Shepherd
 

Bill,

when I installed myFilmtec membranes 7 years ago, my TDS measured 365 on
an inline meter whose calibration may be not entirely accurate as it was
far from expensive. That's still way below the maximum safe value which
is around 600 for civilians and higher still for the military, or so I
was told at a RO seminar in the US some years ago. I keep a record of
salinity levels and a few weeks ago it was 360 so in reality - no
change. It tastes good too. Crusader has never in 9 years taken on tap
water. Everything I drink is from the 160 l/h desalinator and I am still
in good health.

Your readings are nothing to worry about. When you see a significant
change it's time to worry. And if you have the later circuit board then
that situation will take care of itself and divert unacceptable water
production overboard.

Ian Shepherd SM 2000 414 'Crusader' Thessaloniki Greece

On 07/09/2012 08:09, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe wrote:

All,

I read the specs on the DOW FILMTEC SW30-2540 Membranes and it states,
"Stabilized Salt Rejection 99.4%." I found that the Med salinity
averages 42,000PPM.

So, with input at 42000PPM (Average Med salinity) and Membrane Salt
Rejection at 99.40% = 252TDS under perfect circumstances with average
salinity. Some spots may be saltier.

All of this accounts for my current TDS at 250-290.

Thanks for everything...

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently anchored at Orhaniye, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>, Ann-Sofie Svanberg
<kanalmamman@...> wrote:

We have been told that TDS below 500 is OK. With brand new membranes
in our 60 lit/hour watermaker we have TDS around 280 in the tank and
lowest produktion value has been 250.

Regards
Ann-Sofie & JonasSvanberg
S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232
Present on our way to Crete, Greece


Skickat från min iPhone

6 sep 2012 kl. 11:18 skrev "jlm@..." <jlm@...>:

About salinity read in French the _EXCELLENT _web site of previmer.org
(see also the wave prediction .... )

they write :

/Salinité/
<http://www.previmer.org/previsions/production_primaire/modele_eco_mars3d_bretagne/salinite>

La /salinité/ de l'eau de mer océanique varie
relativement peu dans le Golfe de Gascogne, restant
entre_*35 et 36 grammes de sels divers par kilogramme
d'eau de mer*_. En zone côtière, cette /salinité/ de...
Le modèle de la Manche et du Golfe de Gascogne vise Ã
décrire l'évolution des courants, de la température et
de la /salinité/ sur l'ensemble de la zone. Le modèle
hydrodynamique est tridimensionnel...

JLuc
CottonBay
----------------------------------------------------------

Le 06/09/2012 09:43, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe a écrit :

I assume the Eastern Med salinity increases during the dry
season. I
have read that is is normally higher than most oceans.

Is my assumption correct about the Med salinity...and, if so, what
should I expect for TDS in water maker output? In other words,
should
output TDS increase with an increase in input salinity?

I am curious as to what your Med experience is. In most places
in the
world, we have been able to maintain close to, or under 200 TDS in
product water. We presently find it difficult to get below 300. We
have a Dessalator 160l/hr 230v water maker with 2 each FilmTec
Membranes SW30-2540 (3 years old).

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently E. Med - Orhaniye, Turkey







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Re: [Amel] Amel 54 accumulator

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

Thanks Jose.

I didn't know there were two systems ! I only bought my boat a month ago and I am still on a steep learning curve. I do indeed have a plug in the cockpit to wash the deck with fresh water so I assume that I have the high capacity system. But I am still "stumped" as to where the valve is......it is not as per the photos posted by Caudacious on this website.  I will try to take some pictures asap.

Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54 #102



________________________________
From: estellerjose <jose.esteller@free.fr>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel 54 accumulator


 
Hi Tony

My 54 is the number 108 and the accumulator has a valve, and a bicycle pump was supplied!

Is your system a big one? There are two kinds of systems, one with small capacity, and one with big capacity, this second having a plug in the cockpit to wash the deck with fresh water.

I have to put pressure in the accumulator from time to time, if not the pump stars too often.

Can you send a photo? I will say you if the system is the same.

Best regards

José AMEL 54 ORION

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hi why not install Shorflow pressure pumps that work on demand rather then dealing with the pressure tank? We've used them on our Amels' for years w/o issue.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:01, "tonywrobinson51" <tonywrobinson51@...> wrote:

The air pressure within my accumulator in the fresh water system has dropped and I'd like to re-pressurize it. I understood that there is a valve under a cover at the back of the accumulator to which I can attach a pump. However - there's no top up valve on the accumulator on my Amel 54 n. 102 (aug. 2008). The water pump on top is a Reya Type AF881/8 no. 1232, and the only ID I can find on the actual accumulator is:

VU/9 2002 2008 PELL ERIV

does anyone have any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance, Tony Robinson (Catriona R)






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Re: [Amel] Amel 54 accumulator

ESTELLER
 

Hi Tony

My 54 is the number 108 and the accumulator has a valve, and a bicycle pump was supplied!

Is your system a big one? There are two kinds of systems, one with small capacity, and one with big capacity, this second having a plug in the cockpit to wash the deck with fresh water.

I have to put pressure in the accumulator from time to time, if not the pump stars too often.

Can you send a photo? I will say you if the system is the same.

Best regards

José AMEL 54 ORION

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hi why not install Shorflow pressure pumps that work on demand rather then dealing with the pressure tank? We've used them on our Amels' for years w/o issue.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:01, "tonywrobinson51" <tonywrobinson51@...> wrote:

The air pressure within my accumulator in the fresh water system has dropped and I'd like to re-pressurize it. I understood that there is a valve under a cover at the back of the accumulator to which I can attach a pump. However - there's no top up valve on the accumulator on my Amel 54 n. 102 (aug. 2008). The water pump on top is a Reya Type AF881/8 no. 1232, and the only ID I can find on the actual accumulator is:

VU/9 2002 2008 PELL ERIV

does anyone have any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance, Tony Robinson (Catriona R)






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Re: [Amel] Amel 54 accumulator

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi why not install Shorflow pressure pumps that work on demand rather then dealing with the pressure tank? We've used them on our Amels' for years w/o issue.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:01, "tonywrobinson51" <tonywrobinson51@yahoo.com> wrote:

The air pressure within my accumulator in the fresh water system has dropped and I'd like to re-pressurize it. I understood that there is a valve under a cover at the back of the accumulator to which I can attach a pump. However - there's no top up valve on the accumulator on my Amel 54 n. 102 (aug. 2008). The water pump on top is a Reya Type AF881/8 no. 1232, and the only ID I can find on the actual accumulator is:

VU/9 2002 2008 PELL ERIV

does anyone have any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance, Tony Robinson (Catriona R)






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Auccumulator - Amel 54

tonywrobinson51 <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

Just as a follow up to my last post, I have looked at the photos posted by Cudaceous and my accumulator is a different model. There is no cap at the end - the casing is continuous with no obvious way of getting at the valve (if there is one).

Tony Robinson, Catriona R - Amel 54 no 102.


Amel 54 accumulator

tonywrobinson51 <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

The air pressure within my accumulator in the fresh water system has dropped and I'd like to re-pressurize it. I understood that there is a valve under a cover at the back of the accumulator to which I can attach a pump. However - there's no top up valve on the accumulator on my Amel 54 n. 102 (aug. 2008). The water pump on top is a Reya Type AF881/8 no. 1232, and the only ID I can find on the actual accumulator is:

VU/9 2002 2008 PELL ERIV

does anyone have any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance, Tony Robinson (Catriona R)


Re: [Amel] boomerang davits

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

We have those on our SM with 4:1 blocks thay work very well

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:47, Attilio Siviero YAHOO <attilio.siviero@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I am just thinking to fit on my Santorin a couple of davits similar to the ones made by a workshop in La Rochelle, and called Boomerang.

I have seen several SMs with those davits, and I know that also some Santorins has been fitted with same davits, obviously adapted to the different size of the stern.

Now I would like to know for a 2.7m tender (Honda) which tackles (with triple blocks: we are getting old...) are normally used for these davits? I think that a tackle with blocks of 45mm dia, and 10mm rope (working load of the blocks 450kg) should be sufficient. Naturally, one triple block should be with cam-cleat.

And how long is the tackle completely closed. This is to position correctly the holding shackle.

If anybody with a SM or a Santorin has these davits, maybe he can give me this info/opinion?

Thanks for an answer

Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"









boomerang davits

Attilio Siviero YAHOO <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Hi all,

I am just thinking to fit on my Santorin a couple of davits similar to the ones made by a workshop in La Rochelle, and called Boomerang.

I have seen several SMs with those davits, and I know that also some Santorins has been fitted with same davits, obviously adapted to the different size of the stern.

Now I would like to know for a 2.7m tender (Honda) which tackles (with triple blocks: we are getting old...) are normally used for these davits? I think that a tackle with blocks of 45mm dia, and 10mm rope (working load of the blocks 450kg) should be sufficient. Naturally, one triple block should be with cam-cleat.

And how long is the tackle completely closed. This is to position correctly the holding shackle.

If anybody with a SM or a Santorin has these davits, maybe he can give me this info/opinion?

Thanks for an answer

Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


madeira

alexgennai <agennai@...>
 

hi friends
we are just arrived in Madeira (portugal) in porte de lorde marina
in madeira Anyone know if here there's a good sailmaker?
thanks for your help
fair winds
alessandro
SM 2K #443


Re: [Amel] Re: Maramu performances by engine and sails

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Your Perkins 4-154 will do well at 18-2200 it is designed as a londin taxi motor

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:03, "gioiscrivano" <gioiscrivano@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thank you Jean Paul for the informations you sent me.
I'm trying to optimize the performances of my boat. I suppose the propeller has been replaced, I will check now the code to make a comparison with your data. Regarding the speed under sail, I think my boat is very heavy due to all the staff stored (she is also my house).

Hope other friends Maramu Owners will send their comments to help me to make comparisons.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "JP Mans" <maramu.goree@...> wrote:







Hi Giogi
I bought a maramu last generation last year.
I have not enough experience to tell You the comportment of the boat under sail but in good conditions with 12-15 knot wind 135° I made easily 6,5 Knot.
I traveled in the med and with motor at 2100RPM I sailed on 7 knot. (with a calm sea, with a bad sea I had to puch to 2500 to keep ± 6 knot)

This ar the references of the original propeller : 20 12 85 C5 RH 16, with a Perkins 60cv type 4.154.
I'll try to put a picture of the propeller on the forum.
Best regards
JP
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Re: [Amel] Re: Maramu performances by engine and sails

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

I can confirm, we have on a SM with 75HP exactly the same,
I can add that with cam see and poor wind at 1850 RMP we have a averaged
speed on 7knots and 5,5 liters of gasoline per hour.
JLuc on CottonBay
SM316
------------------------------------------------------------------------

07/09/2012 19:20, Kimberly Cerillo a écrit :

Hi Giogi,

We do not have the vast experience of many other Amel owners but this is
what we have found -

Our boat has been our home and we have seen 9-10 knots under excellent
sailing conditions. Motoring in flat calm at 22-25 RPM 7.5-8 knots. As we
usually are motor sailing in less than perfect conditions we usually do
about 6-7.5 knots with boat at 2500 -- 2800 rpms and a genoa/main or both
out. We have the original feathering prop and a 100 turbo Yanmar.

Each yacht is unique and it will take at least 1 to 2 years for you to
determine your yacht's optimum performance, it is fun learning and
tweaking
along the way.

Best of luck!

George and Kim

SM2K #353 Indecent

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of gioiscrivano
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:03 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Maramu performances by engine and sails

Thank you Jean Paul for the informations you sent me.
I'm trying to optimize the performances of my boat. I suppose the
propeller
has been replaced, I will check now the code to make a comparison with
your
data. Regarding the speed under sail, I think my boat is very heavy due to
all the staff stored (she is also my house).

Hope other friends Maramu Owners will send their comments to help me
to make
comparisons.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "JP Mans" <maramu.goree@...>
wrote:







Hi Giogi
I bought a maramu last generation last year.
I have not enough experience to tell You the comportment of the boat
under
sail but in good conditions with 12-15 knot wind 135° I made easily 6,5
Knot.
I traveled in the med and with motor at 2100RPM I sailed on 7 knot.
(with
a calm sea, with a bad sea I had to puch to 2500 to keep ± 6 knot)

This ar the references of the original propeller : 20 12 85 C5 RH
16, with
a Perkins 60cv type 4.154.
I'll try to put a picture of the propeller on the forum.
Best regards
JP
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Re: [Amel] Re: Maramu performances by engine and sails

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Hi Giogi,



We do not have the vast experience of many other Amel owners but this is
what we have found -

Our boat has been our home and we have seen 9-10 knots under excellent
sailing conditions. Motoring in flat calm at 22-25 RPM 7.5-8 knots. As we
usually are motor sailing in less than perfect conditions we usually do
about 6-7.5 knots with boat at 2500 – 2800 rpms and a genoa/main or both
out. We have the original feathering prop and a 100 turbo Yanmar.



Each yacht is unique and it will take at least 1 to 2 years for you to
determine your yacht’s optimum performance, it is fun learning and tweaking
along the way.

Best of luck!



George and Kim

SM2K #353 Indecent





From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gioiscrivano
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:03 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Maramu performances by engine and sails





Thank you Jean Paul for the informations you sent me.
I'm trying to optimize the performances of my boat. I suppose the propeller
has been replaced, I will check now the code to make a comparison with your
data. Regarding the speed under sail, I think my boat is very heavy due to
all the staff stored (she is also my house).

Hope other friends Maramu Owners will send their comments to help me to make
comparisons.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "JP Mans" <maramu.goree@...>
wrote:







Hi Giogi
I bought a maramu last generation last year.
I have not enough experience to tell You the comportment of the boat under
sail but in good conditions with 12-15 knot wind 135° I made easily 6,5
Knot.
I traveled in the med and with motor at 2100RPM I sailed on 7 knot. (with
a calm sea, with a bad sea I had to puch to 2500 to keep ± 6 knot)

This ar the references of the original propeller : 20 12 85 C5 RH 16, with
a Perkins 60cv type 4.154.
I'll try to put a picture of the propeller on the forum.
Best regards
JP




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Re: Maramu performances by engine and sails

gioiscrivano
 

Thank you Jean Paul for the informations you sent me.
I'm trying to optimize the performances of my boat. I suppose the propeller has been replaced, I will check now the code to make a comparison with your data. Regarding the speed under sail, I think my boat is very heavy due to all the staff stored (she is also my house).

Hope other friends Maramu Owners will send their comments to help me to make comparisons.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "JP Mans" <maramu.goree@...> wrote:







Hi Giogi
I bought a maramu last generation last year.
I have not enough experience to tell You the comportment of the boat under sail but in good conditions with 12-15 knot wind 135° I made easily 6,5 Knot.
I traveled in the med and with motor at 2100RPM I sailed on 7 knot. (with a calm sea, with a bad sea I had to puch to 2500 to keep ± 6 knot)

This ar the references of the original propeller : 20 12 85 C5 RH 16, with a Perkins 60cv type 4.154.
I'll try to put a picture of the propeller on the forum.
Best regards
JP


Re: [Amel] TDS in the Eastern Med

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

All,

I read the specs on the DOW FILMTEC SW30-2540 Membranes and it states, "Stabilized Salt Rejection 99.4%." I found that the Med salinity averages 42,000PPM.

So, with input at 42000PPM (Average Med salinity) and Membrane Salt Rejection at 99.40% = 252TDS under perfect circumstances with average salinity. Some spots may be saltier.

All of this accounts for my current TDS at 250-290.

Thanks for everything...

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently anchored at Orhaniye, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...> wrote:

We have been told that TDS below 500 is OK. With brand new membranes in our 60 lit/hour watermaker we have TDS around 280 in the tank and lowest produktion value has been 250.

Regards
Ann-Sofie & JonasSvanberg
S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232
Present on our way to Crete, Greece


Skickat från min iPhone

6 sep 2012 kl. 11:18 skrev "jlm@..." <jlm@...>:

About salinity read in French the _EXCELLENT _web site of previmer.org
(see also the wave prediction .... )

they write :

/Salinité/
<http://www.previmer.org/previsions/production_primaire/modele_eco_mars3d_bretagne/salinite>

La /salinité/ de l'eau de mer océanique varie
relativement peu dans le Golfe de Gascogne, restant
entre_*35 et 36 grammes de sels divers par kilogramme
d'eau de mer*_. En zone côtière, cette /salinité/ de...
Le modèle de la Manche et du Golfe de Gascogne vise à
décrire l'évolution des courants, de la température et
de la /salinité/ sur l'ensemble de la zone. Le modèle
hydrodynamique est tridimensionnel...

JLuc
CottonBay
----------------------------------------------------------

Le 06/09/2012 09:43, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe a écrit :

I assume the Eastern Med salinity increases during the dry season. I
have read that is is normally higher than most oceans.

Is my assumption correct about the Med salinity...and, if so, what
should I expect for TDS in water maker output? In other words, should
output TDS increase with an increase in input salinity?

I am curious as to what your Med experience is. In most places in the
world, we have been able to maintain close to, or under 200 TDS in
product water. We presently find it difficult to get below 300. We
have a Dessalator 160l/hr 230v water maker with 2 each FilmTec
Membranes SW30-2540 (3 years old).

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently E. Med - Orhaniye, Turkey

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change membraın fılter

nezih nezih
 

Hello


I wanted to change to fılter of membraın  as you see on photo
But I couldnt pull off the end plug.In the ınsructıon says just pull carefully on the fıttıngs.
Does anyone know how to pull the plug to change the fılter?
I wrote Katadyn but couldnt have any mail.:(
Thank you
Nezih Kilincikini



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Re: Maramu performances by engine and sails

JP Mans
 

Hi Giogi
I bought a maramu last generation last year.
I have not enough experience to tell You the comportment of the boat under sail but in good conditions with 12-15 knot wind 135° I made easily 6,5 Knot.
I traveled in the med and with motor at 2100RPM I sailed on 7 knot. (with a calm sea, with a bad sea I had to puch to 2500 to keep ± 6 knot)

This ar the references of the original propeller : 20 12 85 C5 RH 16, with a Perkins 60cv type 4.154.
I'll try to put a picture of the propeller on the forum.
Best regards
JP


Maramu performances by engine and sails

gioiscrivano
 

Hello friends,


I own a Maramu (#354, 1984).
The boat is equipped with traditional musts and with the 63 hp Perkins. I have some questions regarding the performances by engine and under sails.
Questions:
1- what is the typical Maramu dead angle in the up-wind going? (considering a wind speed of 12 kn and sails in good conditions)
2- what is the cruising speed that the 63 hp Perkins can provide continuously for a long trip?
3- what are the features of the original propeller?

Many thanks for your comments.
Greetings and fair wind to all.
Gioi


Maramu performances by engine and sails

gioiscrivano
 

Hello friends,


I own a Maramu (#354, 1984).
The boat is equipped with traditional musts and with the 63 hp Perkins. I have some questions regarding the performances by engine and under sails.
Questions:
1- what is the typical Maramu dead angle in the up-wind going? (considering a wind speed of 12 kn and sails in good conditions)
2- what is the cruising speed that the 63 hp Perkins can provide continuously for a long trip?
3- what are the features of the original propeller?

Many thanks for your comments.
Greetings and fair wind to all.
Gioi


Re: [Amel] Lisboa

Frederic Houdaille <fhoudaille@...>
 

Good point Eric, thanks.
Have a great day!
Fred


________________________________
From: Sailormon <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Lisboa



 

The sand gets caught in the fender covers and then you have sandpaper, the
plastic like the material of the bimini and side curtains protects the hull
When you get there, you will see many boats rigged like that. Have them mad
in Lisboa, it is very cheap there
Fair Winds
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frederic Houdaille
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 12:09 AM
To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lisboa

Good to know, thanks Eric.
Would it not be more simple to use fender covers though?
On Sep 5, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Sailormon <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> wrote:

Lisboa,

I forgot to mention that most of the boats in Lisboa have white plastic
tarps hung over the side between the hull and the fenders. If you leave
your
boat in Lisboa for any amount of time, the red sand from the Sahara gets
between the hull and the fenders and abrade the gel coat. Carlos had a set
made for us very reasonably the same day.

Worked great both in Lisboa and Grand Canarie.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Joachim
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:03 AM
To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Lisboa

Thanks Eric,hallo Fred,
this year we have been in the Azores, in summertime, for four weeks. We
sailed from Lisboa.
Wunderful islands. Really the best I have seen in my life. You must take
your time to visit some islands.
Every island is different. Don't make the mistake to visit only Horta in
Faial.From Horta you can take the ferryboat to the
island pico, to mount pico.I can confirm Richard (documents and so on).
The
name of the retired IBM exec and sailor is "Carlos". He is still there.His
phone number is +351919868807.
Marina Alcantara is not very nice marina, on one side containers, but very
safe. You can leave the boat alone, no problem.
The people are very helpful. There is also an alternative : marina parque
das nacoes, near the expo area.The marina is more modern.
The way to the airport is very short and the shopping center Vasco da Gama
is near by. You can go by bus or train to the city. From Alcantara you
have
to take also train,tram or bus.
You can also walk from Alcantara, not from marina parque das nacoes. Or
you
stay in Cascais with more beaches and so on. From there you have to take
the
train to
Lisboa. It takes about fourty minutes.We are in Alcantara since last
autumn,
the boat is mostly alone and we are there because it is really very safe.
When there is much wind outside, there it is calm. Excuse the late answer
but I am in Germany and Iam working. If you want to know anything else,
don´t hesitate to ask.
Look to google earth, to see the locations.
Nobody asked me for a licence of competence.Ok , I was coming from EU, but
I
think this would not matter anything
Best regards, Hans-Joachim
"Johanna-Amalthea" SM2000 #436 Lisboa



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Re: [Amel] TDS in the Eastern Med

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We have been told that TDS below 500 is OK. With brand new membranes in our 60 lit/hour watermaker we have TDS around 280 in the tank and lowest produktion value has been 250.

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Ann-Sofie & JonasSvanberg
S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232
Present on our way to Crete, Greece


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6 sep 2012 kl. 11:18 skrev "jlm@jlmertz.fr" <jlm@jlmertz.fr>:

About salinity read in French the _EXCELLENT _web site of previmer.org
(see also the wave prediction .... )

they write :

/Salinité/
<http://www.previmer.org/previsions/production_primaire/modele_eco_mars3d_bretagne/salinite>

La /salinité/ de l'eau de mer océanique varie
relativement peu dans le Golfe de Gascogne, restant
entre_*35 et 36 grammes de sels divers par kilogramme
d'eau de mer*_. En zone côtière, cette /salinité/ de...
Le modèle de la Manche et du Golfe de Gascogne vise à
décrire l'évolution des courants, de la température et
de la /salinité/ sur l'ensemble de la zone. Le modèle
hydrodynamique est tridimensionnel...

JLuc
CottonBay
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Le 06/09/2012 09:43, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe a écrit :

I assume the Eastern Med salinity increases during the dry season. I
have read that is is normally higher than most oceans.

Is my assumption correct about the Med salinity...and, if so, what
should I expect for TDS in water maker output? In other words, should
output TDS increase with an increase in input salinity?

I am curious as to what your Med experience is. In most places in the
world, we have been able to maintain close to, or under 200 TDS in
product water. We presently find it difficult to get below 300. We
have a Dessalator 160l/hr 230v water maker with 2 each FilmTec
Membranes SW30-2540 (3 years old).

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently E. Med - Orhaniye, Turkey