I am facing continuously the following problem which annoys me very
much and can even become dangerous.

I am starting the engine and everything is ok. I can increase the
revolutions and the power without any problem. I go out of the
harbor and I stop the engine for sailing every time I am starting
the engine (after sailimg and without furling in all sails ) I have
to wait 10 minutes until the engine increases revolutions and the
power and as you can imagine I never know if this is going to happen
when I am approaching land I start the engine well before hoping
that the engine will work. I think that it could be that the
autoprop is starting to unfold but to me it is not normal that the
engine can not increase the revolutions. It never happened when I
start the engine after leaving with the boat from the harbor. I had
a technician onboard and he told me that propably this happens
because the tank was half empty and the fuel went out of the engine
back to the tank and the fuel pump needs time to refill the engine
and increase the revolutions and the power. I filled the tank but
the same happens. I even tried to pump by hand the fuel pump on the
engine but I could not see any improvement when the problem arise
after sailing and starting the engine.

I was suspecting air in the fuel circuit as I had also when the boat
was delivered to me but the technician is not convinced. He proposed
to put an electric fuel pump after the Racor filter but I am not
very keen of doing that. . Could it be a fuel filter problem?


This week-end I made a test suggested by Amel . As always you never
have the problem when you are trying to find a solution for that. I
sailed for about 45 minutes in a pretty rough sea of about 25 Knots
apparent wind and when I started the engine it worked normally. I
really do not know what is going on. I believe that it is a problem
of the propeller but I do not know how long it takes to fold and
unfold the blades. What I have done is that I furled in the sails .
Normally when I started the engine I continue sailing with the sails
in place and perhaps this speed is not allowing the blades to
unfold.

Has somebody had a similar problem?

Hello,

I'm new in your group and new with my boat (my first one), i'd just
bought !

It's a Super Mistral (1970).

I need anything you have on it, because I'm going in a full
refection !

But i did not have any plans, measure , even of the main sail i must
change.

I hope some of you will have something for me !

TIA

PS: sorry for my english, I'm french :)

Hello Fellow Amel enthusiasts.

While I have been lurking on this list for some time, I am only now a legitimate member as
I have finely acquired an Amel of my very own. She is a Sharki laying in Fort Lauderdale,
FL, USA. She is in need of some work and I am looking forward to making her my own. I
know from keeping up with this list that it is full of great people with great ideas and I
would love to hear from any of you any time. Of particular interest to me are tips and
tricks specific to the Sharki and her systems.

It would be very helpful to have as much first hand information about the original
systems as posable. I would love to get my hands on some schematics, wiring diagrams,
plumbing diagrams, architectural plans and a complete spec list for the 1980 Sharki. Is
there any anybody out there that might have some leads on this.

I have posted some photos to my own site because I know how much I have enjoyed
looking at other people's Amels.
Some of you may remember her from this list as "Amedee" I am still waiting for her new
name to come to me in a dream.

http://homepage.mac.com/northp/sharki/sharki.html

-North Pitney
Sharki Hull#30

Hi everyone,

As you may have noticed, we are over our 30MB photo storage limit.
As a result access is restricted until it's reduced. I notice
there's quite a few large (~400,000 byte) photos in 'Factory Tour'
folder. I will remove these--and store on CD offline.

Richard Tate
SM "Spice"

Hello Christian,

We have a Santorin, No 54 Khamsin B, which is a sloop. We also received a number of
arrangement drawings with it when we bought it just over a year ago. Unfortunately, I will
be away for two weks so I hope you can wait. Please let me know if you want them and I
will do my best to get them to you on my return on 30th July next.

Best regards,


Rob

Hi Christian,
I have a brochure of the santorin with the drawing arrangement of the ketch
+ sloop in it.
I can picture it and send by email or copy and fax it if you want.
Just give me your preference and where to send it.
You can answer to _peps47@aol.com_ (mailto:peps47@aol.com)
Georges Pellegrini
Santorin 132

Hi Chrisitian:

Sorry but I don't have a clew. Have you contact Joel Potter Amel's rep in
Fort Lauderdale? Or look up Amel@amel.fr on the web.

Good Luck.

Byron Henderson
sailslady@aol.com

Hello,

I plan to buy a Santorin ketch in the near future and would try to
get the drawings of it and general arrangement plans if available.
Do you know if and where I could find them ?

Thank you very much for your help

christian

The Link 10 on my boat also failed. It is not worth repairing as a
new one is about $200.00 and it is easy to replace. The replacement
unit has worked fine for the past two years. Check your wiring and
try a reset of the unit.

Vito

ASm # 283


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "baligand2001"
<baligand@h...> wrote:

Hello to all,

I'm facing problems with the ampmeter functions of the
Link 10 and wonder if any of you has already faced and solve the
same. My link 10 still provide a proper voltage measure but all

amps

indications have suddenly quit. It no longer provides either the
immediate amps consumption (A) which is stuck to a permanently
displayed number 509,or total amps consumed (AH) which actually

keep

increasing as opposed to the reverse and the related T function
which is stuck to 100 %. I checked the fuses which are all right,
disconnected the batteries to shut off the Link 10 and then switch
it on again but all to no avail.
I guess the Link 10 itself must be the culprit. Has
someone already taken the step of removing the Link 10 to bring it
in for repair ?
Amel have kindly mailed me a copy of the manual but

not

offered a solution.

Thank you.

Philippe GUYOT
Baligand SM 245

Thank you Dimitri

I would be very intrested in seing these pictures. Can you post them
on this site. If I can improve ventilation without cutting a hole in
on the deck that would be preffeble.

Thank you

Vito




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Krassopoulos Dimitris
<dkra@p...> wrote:

Vito,

I have two hatches that can be open on the sides of the aft cabin.

This

creates excellent ventilation. Amel has installed for me these two

hatches

that are the normal side hatches that are in the galley and in the

aft bath.

I do not believe that it is very difficult to install. I can send

photos if

you wish. By doing that you do not need to saw into the aftdeck.

Dimitris
SM Alma Libre

_____

From: Naegels Patrick [mailto:naegels@t...]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:34 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Improved ventilation


Hi Vito,

there are no real problems to install 1 or 2 aft cabin hatches, and
it's a good idea to increase ventilation.

Aft cabin deck (in bed part only)is free of wiring, you can make a
hole in where you need. The only tip is to place a wood frame
instead of foam between 2 GRP hides (external and internal deck
side). Just scrape foam deep enough to be sure that scews or bolts
fixing hatch will be into wooden frame.

Think maybe to put 2 hatches in opposite opening (bow to and stern
to), but avoid to put them in starboard to and port to. This is
really less efficient.

Another problem is to have enough courage to saw into your nice and
fautless aft deck ...

Patrick

http://www.chez.com/amelcaramel/index.php
<http://www.chez.com/amelcaramel/index.php>
------------------------------------------------

I would like to ask if anyone has found a way to improve

ventilation

to the aft cabin. I am thinking of installing 2 hatches on the
overhead in the aft cabin. Has anyone done this? What are some of

the

problems or issues that I may face.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino
Wanderer
ASM# 283

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Hi,
I hve bought AmelS.M. #53 in France and taken out of French register. I wish to register in Norway. Can any of the Amel owners advise me with the following:

To register in Norway the Maritime Directorate need the gross ton figure messured after the International convention of 1969. In that case I need a line drawing. The gross ton figure Amel give is 30,14, but the French messure after another Convention.
Do any of the owners hve a gross ton figure messured after 1969 Convention ? - or hve any solution to this problem. Fyi, in Norway they wl charge approx 1000 Euro to messure after a line drawings.
The boat is in South France.

Rgds Ivar

Vito,

I have two hatches that can be open on the sides of the aft cabin. This
creates excellent ventilation. Amel has installed for me these two hatches
that are the normal side hatches that are in the galley and in the aft bath.
I do not believe that it is very difficult to install. I can send photos if
you wish. By doing that you do not need to saw into the aftdeck.

Dimitris
SM Alma Libre

_____

From: Naegels Patrick [mailto:naegels@tvcablenet.be]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:34 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Improved ventilation


Hi Vito,

there are no real problems to install 1 or 2 aft cabin hatches, and
it's a good idea to increase ventilation.

Aft cabin deck (in bed part only)is free of wiring, you can make a
hole in where you need. The only tip is to place a wood frame
instead of foam between 2 GRP hides (external and internal deck
side). Just scrape foam deep enough to be sure that scews or bolts
fixing hatch will be into wooden frame.

Think maybe to put 2 hatches in opposite opening (bow to and stern
to), but avoid to put them in starboard to and port to. This is
really less efficient.

Another problem is to have enough courage to saw into your nice and
fautless aft deck ...

Patrick

http://www.chez.com/amelcaramel/index.php
<http://www.chez.com/amelcaramel/index.php>
------------------------------------------------

I would like to ask if anyone has found a way to improve

ventilation

to the aft cabin. I am thinking of installing 2 hatches on the
overhead in the aft cabin. Has anyone done this? What are some of

the

problems or issues that I may face.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino
Wanderer
ASM# 283

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Hi Vito,

there are no real problems to install 1 or 2 aft cabin hatches, and
it's a good idea to increase ventilation.

Aft cabin deck (in bed part only)is free of wiring, you can make a
hole in where you need. The only tip is to place a wood frame
instead of foam between 2 GRP hides (external and internal deck
side). Just scrape foam deep enough to be sure that scews or bolts
fixing hatch will be into wooden frame.

Think maybe to put 2 hatches in opposite opening (bow to and stern
to), but avoid to put them in starboard to and port to. This is
really less efficient.

Another problem is to have enough courage to saw into your nice and
fautless aft deck ...

Patrick

http://www.chez.com/amelcaramel/index.php
------------------------------------------------

I would like to ask if anyone has found a way to improve

ventilation

to the aft cabin. I am thinking of installing 2 hatches on the
overhead in the aft cabin. Has anyone done this? What are some of

the

problems or issues that I may face.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino
Wanderer
ASM# 283

I am looking at used Sharis and Maramus. I may be in need of a survey in Fort Lauderdale,
USA soon. Can anyone recomend a Surveyor that is familiar with Amels and can judge one
more fairly than the usal "That's not how it is supposed to be done..".

North Pitney
"Shamrock"
Oakland, CA
USA

I'm happy to hear about the success with the Trojan Batteries. I'm
about to replace my 5 house batteries, Delco Voyagers, which are
sealed, with deep cycle batteries. I keep hearing about the dangers
of hydrogen gas build up with non-sealed batteries. Trojans have are
wet batteries with caps. Can anyone tell me whether this is a
significant risk? Any steps to minimize the risk? (I have a
Santorin with an engine layout very similar to the Super Maramu).

Bob, Hanalei

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "David Wallace"
<svairops@h...> wrote:

We replaced the 5 12v gel cell batteries on our Maramu (hull #104)

last

September with Trojan 6v wet cells. The Trojan website
(www.trojanbattery.com) is filled with useful information

including a

"battery picker" which gives amp-hr capacities and physical

dimensions so

you can choose models that fit in your available space. We were

able to fit

4 LH-16 6v models in our boat giving us 890 amp-hr capacity at 12

volts,

about double what the previous owner had installed. After

selecting the

model that we wanted, we were able to buy them locally (in SF).

We've only

had them a year, but no complaints after a season of cruising in

the Sea of

Cortez.
Dave and Merry Wallace
s/v Air Ops

From: Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@y...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Batteries for SM 2000 /Help

Please!

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:29:10 -0700 (PDT)

Dear Mr. Glass,
My baterries failed after 2 years. You actually can
get the Delcos in the USA, I believe to the identical
layout as OEM. Try Ed's Batteries in Westbrook, Maine.
However, upon researching the matter, I found that the
Delcos are only medium quality. A batterymaker with,
it seems, a top reputation for traditional lead-acid
batteries is Trojan. They have more capacity and
longer life (it is said 5 years). These only cost
about $10. more per battery. You do have to cut off
the plastic handles which are molded on Trojan cases
(no big deal) and re-do the cables, also quite
straightforward. I looked into gel batteries (thumbs
down it seems for many reasons) and AGM, the newest
thing. Conclusion on AGM: twice the price of good lead
acid, same life expectancy. So, no go. If you wanted
the exact Trojan battery model you could call Ed's
Batteries. I bought 8 from them in May '02. They
delivered them to Lyman-Morse Boats in Maine. They
would probably have the record. They cost $90. each.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Claude Roessiger
--- mcgosprey2000 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Listmates: I own an SM 2000. As predicted by Amel,
the battery bank
is failing as I approach the 3 year mark. The
battery replacement
problem is as follows: The original batteries are AC
DELCO, but an AC
Delco European model not available in the US. The US
model (Group
27) is close but the battery posts are located
differently and I
will likely have to change the battery cables if I
use the US Delcos.
I would like to replace the batteries, if possible,
without changing
the battery compartment or lengthening the cables to
accomodate new
batteries. Is there anyone out there who has
changed the batteries
on the SM, and if so, what make/model did you
install? Thank you
Michael Glass
Second Call

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Hello everyone from the sunny, hot and beatifull Grenedines.

I would like to ask if anyone has found a way to improve ventilation
to the aft cabin. I am thinking of installing 2 hatches on the
overhead in the aft cabin. Has anyone done this? What are some of the
problems or issues that I may face.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino
Wanderer
ASM# 283

Hi Philippe
Dont bother getting this instrument repared. Not worth the money; Get the Mastervolt Ampmeter instead which is what I did . Pas de comparaison....... It came actually first in a survey made by Voiles et Voiliers
Best Regards
Erick MEJEAN


----Original Message Follows----
From: "baligand2001" <baligand@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Link 10
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:24:22 -0000

Hello to all,

I'm facing problems with the ampmeter functions of the
Link 10 and wonder if any of you has already faced and solve the
same. My link 10 still provide a proper voltage measure but all amps
indications have suddenly quit. It no longer provides either the
immediate amps consumption (A) which is stuck to a permanently
displayed number 509,or total amps consumed (AH) which actually keep
increasing as opposed to the reverse and the related T function
which is stuck to 100 %. I checked the fuses which are all right,
disconnected the batteries to shut off the Link 10 and then switch
it on again but all to no avail.
I guess the Link 10 itself must be the culprit. Has
someone already taken the step of removing the Link 10 to bring it
in for repair ?
Amel have kindly mailed me a copy of the manual but not
offered a solution.

Thank you.

Philippe GUYOT
Baligand SM 245

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Hello to all,

I'm facing problems with the ampmeter functions of the
Link 10 and wonder if any of you has already faced and solve the
same. My link 10 still provide a proper voltage measure but all amps
indications have suddenly quit. It no longer provides either the
immediate amps consumption (A) which is stuck to a permanently
displayed number 509,or total amps consumed (AH) which actually keep
increasing as opposed to the reverse and the related T function
which is stuck to 100 %. I checked the fuses which are all right,
disconnected the batteries to shut off the Link 10 and then switch
it on again but all to no avail.
I guess the Link 10 itself must be the culprit. Has
someone already taken the step of removing the Link 10 to bring it
in for repair ?
Amel have kindly mailed me a copy of the manual but not
offered a solution.

Thank you.

Philippe GUYOT
Baligand SM 245

Hello to all,

I'm facing problems with the ampmeter functions of the
Link 10 and wonder if any of you has already faced and solve the
same. My link 10 still provide a proper voltage measure but all amps
indications have suddenly quit. It no longer provides either the
immediate amps consumption (A) which is stuck to a permanently
displayed number 509,or total amps consumed (AH) which actually keep
increasing as opposed to the reverse and the related T function
which is stuck to 100 %. I checked the fuses which are all right,
disconnected the batteries to shut off the Link 10 and then switch
it on again but all to no avail.
I guess the Link 10 itself must be the culprit. Has
someone already taken the step of removing the Link 10 to bring it
in for repair ?
Amel have kindly mailed me a copy of the manual but not
offered a solution.

Thank you.

Philippe GUYOT
Baligand SM 245

We had difficulty with this type of indication for 2 years. After
having the experts check it out, we finally reread the manual.
There are many wires in the control box inside the locker on the
starboard side-under the catch all shelf. One was actually totally
loose. Resecuring this solved the problem. Of course we did check
all the other connections as well. But we did not realize that
there are around 12 wires inside the box. Lots of margin for error,
corrosion, and dislocation. Noelia-

-- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "assistanttoblackdog"
<assistanttoblackdog@y...> wrote:

Hello Everybody,

I am wondering if anyone could provide me with information

regarding

the system that measurers the SM 2000's speed through the water.

The

boat was recently out of the water for the regular maintenance and

I

am now getting erratic readings on the knotmeter. Some times it

seems

to be working just fine and then all of a sudden it will jump to an
unrealisticly high indication. Would you have any wisdom to share

with

me on this system/problem? I would be most grateful,

Jim