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Re: [Amel] Re: SM waterline

murray k. seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Graham- sm 349 floats on her waterline aft or under the stern counter. 2
years ago I had the ugly orange waterline overpainted by Bennett Bros. in
Wilmington,jn.c. using bright red awlgrip. I don't get the fouling you
describe. I would check the weight distribution. My rub rail is bright blue
awlgrip with white "starboard" insert giving me a bullet proof rub rail and
a great improvement in appearance.



On another topic, if you try to raise the bow thruster going too fast, it
wedges enough against the fiberglass box so that the 10 amp fuse in the
black box clamped to the motor that raises and lowers blows. Then the
thruster is not able to be raised or lowered . Open box and bend the spades
on a 10 amp fuse 90 degrees and replace. Thruster again works. Lesson-go
SLOW as you raise your thruster. Murray Seidel sm #349



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: SM waterline





Thanks everyone,

Looks like Sula's water line will be going up at the stern at the Xmas haul
out! When I got the boat 7 years ago I painted over the orange stripe in
red, much smarter. Whilst sanding in preparation for the paint I seem to
remember the orange didn't come away at all which is why i thought it is
part of the gel coat..(Amel seem to like that...deck stripes etc,...
repainted those). I am sure my boat yard will keep me right.

Graham
SM140 Sula
Hong Kong

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Graham" <crwggb@...> wrote:

I don't know about any one else but much as I love these boats I am fed up
of the fact that they float stern down.... or perhaps the waterline was put
in the wrong place at build?! When I lived in N Europe it wasn't too much of
a problem but now I am in the tropics its impossible to keep her stern
clean. Has any one had thier SM's water line raised at the stern, if so by
how much, and was it dificult removing the orange stripe that is in the
gelcoat?

I look forward to your comments

Graham Boyd
SM140 SULA


Re: [Amel] world wide health insurance cover

Frederic Houdaille <fhoudaille@...>
 

Hello Hector and Silvana,
Since I am based in the US, I'd be interested to know which health insurance providers you found in the US. I am just beginning to look into this for my family and for our upcoming "promenade".
Thanks and good luck with your own research!
Fred
"Zazen", SM # 404, Bear DE USA


________________________________
From: arca noe <arcadinoesailing@hotmail.com>
To: Amel Yacht Owners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: [Amel] world wide health insurance cover


 

Hi all
My wife and I are from Italy and we're starting to live aboard.
We are looking for health insurance that will cover the world, including Caribbean and USA, with direct payment of emergency medical expenses and hospitalization.
We found only insurance covering US, Australian or UK citizens!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Keep smiling
Hector and Silvana
Arca di Noè (Mango No. 50 in Livorno-Italy)






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Re: [Amel] world wide health insurance cover

Maria Geiger
 

Hello Hector and Silvana,

My advice is to have a look to BUPA International Insurance. You can have a look for a broker in Italy.

http://www.bupa-intl.com/

Kind regards,

Maria

PITU
SM 148

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 11 nov. 2012 à 18:57, arca noe <arcadinoesailing@hotmail.com> a écrit :

Hi all
My wife and I are from Italy and we're starting to live aboard.
We are looking for health insurance that will cover the world, including Caribbean and USA, with direct payment of emergency medical expenses and hospitalization.
We found only insurance covering US, Australian or UK citizens!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Keep smiling
Hector and Silvana
Arca di Noè (Mango No. 50 in Livorno-Italy)

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world wide health insurance cover

Arca di Noè
 

Hi all
My wife and I are from Italy and we're starting to live aboard.
We are looking for health insurance that will cover the world, including Caribbean and USA, with direct payment of emergency medical expenses and hospitalization.
We found only insurance covering US, Australian or UK citizens!


Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Keep smiling
Hector and Silvana
Arca di Noè (Mango No. 50 in Livorno-Italy)

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Re: twin headsails for downwind

Dave_Benjamin
 

Eric,

Did you use the regular spinnaker poles? Were they just lashed or did you have some sort of fitting fabricated? The drawback I see compared to the regular twins is you would have a lot less sail area. However in heavy air, it could prove more controllable. The pole handling seems more cumbersome than dealing with the standard twins. I'm interested in hearing more.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@... wrote:

Dave,
I used the twizzle rig and it is amazing in a rolling down wind sail.
eric
sm376
kimberlite


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Friday, November 9, 2012 2:12 am
Subject: [Amel] Re: twin headsails for downwind
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Eric,

Have you used a Twistle rig? I've yet to meet anyone who has. We
built a "Twizzler" for a customer and I've been wanting to get
out for a sail with him and try it. Unfortunately he's swamped
with work and hasn't been using his boat. I spent some time
researching the setup and the sails were straight forward.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@ wrote:

DaveI find that the gennaker is a great sail especially for
the trades coming from the canaries or further south.. It is so
easy to set and douse . from 150-180 degrees the twins work well
but the twistle rig is the best sail setup for down wind
sailing.Fair windsEricsm376 Kimberlite----- Original Message ----
-From: Dave_Benjamin Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:13
pmSubject: [Amel] Re: twin headsails for downwindTo:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> Alessandro,> > If you would
like, I can email you a copy of the original > factory CD with
the manual. It has detailed instructions. I'd be > happy to show
you in person but I suspect I won't be near your > marina any
time soon ;-)> > Let me know what language you prefer as I think
I have it in a > few different ones and we can save bandwidth by
not sending all > of them. If it is not copyrighted I may be
able to simply put it > on my website for anyone to download. >
Someone else mentioned a gennaker as a better option. I don't
agree with that as gennakers work poorly at the wind angles
the > twins excel at. Gennakers are more of a reaching sail.
Pole end > heights are easy enough to adjust and if conditions
are really > adverse, I'd rather just switch to the genoa. > >
Most Amel owners report satisfaction with the twin headsails on
extended passages. > > --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,
"alexgennai" > wrote:> >> > I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM
2K #443 and I'm preparing > to cross atlantic at the end of
november. I suppose that the > twin headsail are very helpful in
downwind sailing but in the > owner manual it is not so clear
how to hoist and lower the head > balooner.> Anyone could be so
kind to give me a clear > explication regarding how to manage
this sail?> > could be appreciated photos and videos on this
item!!!!!> > thanks so much> > fair winds> > alessandro> >> > >


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Re: [Amel] Re: twin headsails for downwind

eric freedman
 

Dave,
I used the twizzle rig and it is amazing in a rolling down wind sail.
eric
sm376
kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Friday, November 9, 2012 2:12 am
Subject: [Amel] Re: twin headsails for downwind
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Eric,

Have you used a Twistle rig? I've yet to meet anyone who has. We
built a "Twizzler" for a customer and I've been wanting to get
out for a sail with him and try it. Unfortunately he's swamped
with work and hasn't been using his boat. I spent some time
researching the setup and the sails were straight forward.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@... wrote:

DaveI find that the gennaker is a great sail especially for
the trades coming from the canaries or further south.. It is so
easy to set and douse . from 150-180 degrees the twins work well
but the twistle rig is the best sail setup for down wind
sailing.Fair windsEricsm376 Kimberlite----- Original Message ----
-From: Dave_Benjamin Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:13
pmSubject: [Amel] Re: twin headsails for downwindTo:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> Alessandro,> > If you would
like, I can email you a copy of the original > factory CD with
the manual. It has detailed instructions. I'd be > happy to show
you in person but I suspect I won't be near your > marina any
time soon ;-)> > Let me know what language you prefer as I think
I have it in a > few different ones and we can save bandwidth by
not sending all > of them. If it is not copyrighted I may be
able to simply put it > on my website for anyone to download. >
Someone else mentioned a gennaker as a better option. I don't
agree with that as gennakers work poorly at the wind angles
the > twins excel at. Gennakers are more of a reaching sail.
Pole end > heights are easy enough to adjust and if conditions
are really > adverse, I'd rather just switch to the genoa. > >
Most Amel owners report satisfaction with the twin headsails on
extended passages. > > --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,
"alexgennai" > wrote:> >> > I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM
2K #443 and I'm preparing > to cross atlantic at the end of
november. I suppose that the > twin headsail are very helpful in
downwind sailing but in the > owner manual it is not so clear
how to hoist and lower the head > balooner.> Anyone could be so
kind to give me a clear > explication regarding how to manage
this sail?> > could be appreciated photos and videos on this
item!!!!!> > thanks so much> > fair winds> > alessandro> >> > >





Very bad experience in South Croatia - Troghir Dalmatia Charter

Attilio Siviero YAHOO <attilio.siviero@...>
 

To all Mediterranean sailors.

The last summer, in August, I reached, with our Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila", the ACI Marina in Troghir. It was a Wednesday, the marina was empty, the mariner told me to berth in front of Dalmatia Charter, without asking me how many days I intended to stay there.

We had a lot of fun for few days visiting Troghir, old Venetian town.

Next Friday a very bad fact happened.

The owner of Dalmatia Charter, than I did not know, and in front of which we were moored since 2 days, suddenly screamed saying that in 5min we had to go away otherwise he was going to cut our ropes.

I strongly protested and he disconnected my power chord. Therefore I stepped down from the boat again protesting and screaming, and he suddenly hit me with a fist to my left eye!

After that, obviously I called the Police (who appeared to be friendly with him trying to cover him), hospital for check (all ok fortunately), judge at Split court, where - as the interpreter said - Ivica Buble (the name of the bad guy), will be condemned to pay some 100Euros of fine (do they have a killing licence that costs 100Euros only?).

The interpreter says that after the sentence, this shall be sent me in Padova, and I will be able to make a private civil suit for damages.... I do not think that I'll get some compensation..! However the South Croatians are somehow violent, the taxi driver who carried me to the hospital said that...., and a bit stupid for tourism development, I say.... Another Italian guy told me that he had bad experience with Ivica Buble as well. And ACI Marina did not compensate me in any way, again trying to justify the crazy guy, apparently protected by local Police and Authorities.

So if anybody intend, next summer, to visit Troghir, be aware from Dalmatia Charter moorings, too dangerous.

Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 08/nov/2012, alle ore 15:16, svperegrinus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

Hello Kent,

Thanks for your comment. Do you know if the Freedom was installed by Amel, or is it an after-market installation? Do you turn it on just for specific use or do you tend to leave it powered?

On the Xantrex website, I cannot seem to find a Freedom that is an inverter only. It appears the current versions of the product are all inverter/chargers. Is this how yours is set up?

Bill from s/v BeBe has most kindly explained to us his factory install. His Statpower PROsine (now Xantrex PROsine) is inverter-only, no battery charger feature included.

Best,

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, karkauai@... wrote:

Hi Francisco abd Odette. I own SM 243 which has a Freedom 80A Charger/Inverter that provides 220v to microwave and receptacles from 24v battery bank. Also has an equalize feature to keep batteries from over-sulfating. Nice system.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Sent from my BlackBerry smartphone powered by Alltel

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From: svperegrinus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Sender: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:29:25
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Service on East Coast of US


Hello Bill,

We have some 230v audio equipment for which the manufacturer makes no version other than 230v and 110v. We would therefore like to have 230v available throughout the boat at all times (subject to flipping a switch or two, of course), without necessarily having to turn on the generator or plugging into shore power.

I will reach out to you to you via your e-mail to see what the "factory original" 230v inverter installation option looks like. I'd like to have it duplicated on our boat.

Thanks in advance,

Francisco + Odette
sv Peregrinus
SM2K #350 (Nov. 2001)
Miami



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

Richard, Duncan, et al,

I am not sold on the 110v conversion. You should check the number of the places in the world that provide 110v 60htz. You will find that the US and a few other places are the only places that have this voltage, while the rest of the world is 230v 50htz. Rather than doing this 110v 60htz inverter, think seriously about adding a 24 to 230v 50htz inverter assuming that you do not already have an Amel-installed 230v 50htz inverter. Then when in St. Martin, Martinique and many other Caribbean islands buy all of the 230v appliances that you need. Also, you will find that almost all of your electronic gear will accept 110 - 240 volts AC 50-60 hertz...all you need to use these is a plug adapter.

If you follow the above suggestion, your Amel will be equipped for worldwide cruising. Also, remember, if worldwide cruising is not in your plans, it will likely be in the plans of a significant number of people who may want to buy your Amel when you are ready to sell her. Be careful not to do something now that you will regret then.

Amel wires the inverter in a separate circuit outside of the AC panel, with no connection between the inverter and the panel. The inverter does not go through the same breakers...there are a number of benefits with this...if you do not know, ask an experienced marine electrician. If you want to know more about the wiring scheme and location of the 230v receptacles done by Amel on a Super Maramu, write me at bill"at"svbebe.com.

I hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently N. Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@> wrote:

Hi Duncan we removed the entire Amel charging system and installed a 100 dolphin smart charger. You can get them from Budget the in Jolly Harbor or shipped in from the imported in Florida or from Defender in Ct. We then installer a 24 to 110 inverter hard wired to a breaker panel from it we ran 110 (600 volt wire) to ground fault plugs all over the boat using the standard Amel wireways. We can now plug in to most any dock in the world and charge the batteries. Then use your USA stuff at will. Your 220 stuff will generally work so long as there are no timers like the washers and dryer they tend to dislike 60 cycle. Give me a call if you have questions. The above system has work without issue on both my AMELs and a few I've worked on. Smart chargers are the way to go in today's world.

Regards SM 209 in Annapolis for sale

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 10, 2011, at 13:20, Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@> wrote:

Richard,

You suggested that I convert my electrical system to a broad range (?80-280?) charger. The boat is in the process of being checked by an electrical service company in Antigua and this would be a good time to address the issue. Can you suggest a manufacturer, etc.?

Duncan
On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Richard Piller wrote:

Hi Kent, Epic Yachting has also been in contact with Amel to provide service for the boats. They have a deep water marina in Gloucester, VA that is fully capable of Amel service. It is a very short run from Norfolk to Severn River Marine Service. There is also Amel service available at their docks in Annapolis and in Newport RI from May to November. They are a mast cap to keel stem to stern service firm.
Richard SM 209 in Annapolis For Sale

________________________________
From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:11 PM
Subject: [Amel] Amel Service on East Coast of US


I was sad to hear of Ray's passing, he was a real peach of a guy. He worked on Kristy right after I bought her and sailed across the Gulf from Galveston to Key West and Ft. Lauderdale.

I had a lot of quality work done on KRISTY over the last few years at Deltaville Marina on the Chesapeake. Keith, the owner, said he'd worked on several Amels in the past and is enthralled with the way they are built and their systems are laid out. He contacted Amel to see about becoming an Amel service center but got no reply. We need somewhere like that where we can get Amel-specific help on the Eastern Seaboard. I'd like to start a campaign to ask Amel to find a good yard and get them trained to work on our boats. I'd recommend Deltaville Boatyard but any good yard would be better than having to go to Martinique or deal with folks who just don't get the Amel systems.

Any thoughts?
Kent
SM243
Kristy

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Re: [Amel] twin headsails for downwind

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Richard,

Thanks for the advice as I have never thought of this...BUT...

Could you provide a little more detail, like:
Under what sail configuration did you use this?
What size and length did you use?
What did this U shaped drogue do to speed?

Also, is the personal experience because I cannot understand the physics of the U shape vs a drogue at each cleat.

Best,

Bill
BeBe

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

When running down the coast of Africa with good trades you may also want to lay out a 15 to 25 mm line in the shape of U cleated on both aft cleats to help stop her slow the left to right motion with an aft cornering large sea.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 8, 2012, at 12:44, "alexgennai" <agennai@...> wrote:

I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM 2K #443 and I'm preparing to cross atlantic at the end of november. I suppose that the twin headsail are very helpful in downwind sailing but in the owner manual it is not so clear how to hoist and lower the head balooner.
Anyone could be so kind to give me a clear explication regarding how to manage this sail?
could be appreciated photos and videos on this item!!!!!
thanks so much
fair winds
alessandro


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[Amel] Re: twin headsails for downwind

Dave_Benjamin
 

Eric,

Have you used a Twistle rig? I've yet to meet anyone who has. We built a "Twizzler" for a customer and I've been wanting to get out for a sail with him and try it. Unfortunately he's swamped with work and hasn't been using his boat. I spent some time researching the setup and the sails were straight forward.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@... wrote:

DaveI find that the gennaker is a great sail especially for the trades coming from the canaries or further south.. It is so easy to set and douse . from 150-180 degrees the twins work well but the twistle rig is the best sail setup for down wind sailing.Fair windsEricsm376 Kimberlite----- Original Message -----From: Dave_Benjamin Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:13 pmSubject: [Amel] Re: twin headsails for downwindTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> Alessandro,> > If you would like, I can email you a copy of the original > factory CD with the manual. It has detailed instructions. I'd be > happy to show you in person but I suspect I won't be near your > marina any time soon ;-)> > Let me know what language you prefer as I think I have it in a > few different ones and we can save bandwidth by not sending all > of them. If it is not copyrighted I may be able to simply put it > on my website for anyone to download. > > Someone else mentioned a gennaker as a better option. I don't > agree with that as gennakers work poorly at the wind angles the > twins excel at. Gennakers are more of a reaching sail. Pole end > heights are easy enough to adjust and if conditions are really > adverse, I'd rather just switch to the genoa. > > Most Amel owners report satisfaction with the twin headsails on > extended passages. > > --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "alexgennai" > wrote:> >> > I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM 2K #443 and I'm preparing > to cross atlantic at the end of november. I suppose that the > twin headsail are very helpful in downwind sailing but in the > owner manual it is not so clear how to hoist and lower the head > balooner.> Anyone could be so kind to give me a clear > explication regarding how to manage this sail?> > could be appreciated photos and videos on this item!!!!!> > thanks so much> > fair winds> > alessandro> >> > >




Re: [Amel] SM 2000 manuals for download

Dave_Benjamin
 

We have a Maramu, hull #29. We have a few friends who own SM's and one of them let me make a copy of the manuals.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@... wrote:

Dave,Thanks for the manuals.I forgot to ask what model and hull Amel do you own?fair windsEric----- Original Message -----From: Dave_Benjamin Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:17 pmSubject: [Amel] SM 2000 manuals for downloadTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> I've put some copies of the SM 2000 manual on my website. > > French - http://islandplanetsails.com/amel/manuel.pdf> > English - http://islandplanetsails.com/amel/manual.pdf> > German - http://islandplanetsails.com/amel/handbuch.pdf> > I can upload the Italian and Portugese if anyone needs them. > >




Re: [Amel] SM 2000 manuals for download

eric freedman
 

Dave,Thanks for the manuals.I forgot to ask what model and hull Amel do you own?fair windsEric----- Original Message -----From: Dave_Benjamin Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:17 pmSubject: [Amel] SM 2000 manuals for downloadTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> I've put some copies of the SM 2000 manual on my website. > > French - http://islandplanetsails.com/amel/manuel.pdf> > English - http://islandplanetsails.com/amel/manual.pdf> > German - http://islandplanetsails.com/amel/handbuch.pdf> > I can upload the Italian and Portugese if anyone needs them. > >


Re: [Amel] Re: twin headsails for downwind

eric freedman
 

DaveI find that the gennaker is a great sail especially for the trades coming from the canaries or further south.. It is so easy to set and douse . from 150-180 degrees the twins work well but the twistle rig is the best sail setup for down wind sailing.Fair windsEricsm376 Kimberlite----- Original Message -----From: Dave_Benjamin Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:13 pmSubject: [Amel] Re: twin headsails for downwindTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> Alessandro,> > If you would like, I can email you a copy of the original > factory CD with the manual. It has detailed instructions. I'd be > happy to show you in person but I suspect I won't be near your > marina any time soon ;-)> > Let me know what language you prefer as I think I have it in a > few different ones and we can save bandwidth by not sending all > of them. If it is not copyrighted I may be able to simply put it > on my website for anyone to download. > > Someone else mentioned a gennaker as a better option. I don't > agree with that as gennakers work poorly at the wind angles the > twins excel at. Gennakers are more of a reaching sail. Pole end > heights are easy enough to adjust and if conditions are really > adverse, I'd rather just switch to the genoa. > > Most Amel owners report satisfaction with the twin headsails on > extended passages. > > --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "alexgennai" > wrote:> >> > I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM 2K #443 and I'm preparing > to cross atlantic at the end of november. I suppose that the > twin headsail are very helpful in downwind sailing but in the > owner manual it is not so clear how to hoist and lower the head > balooner.> Anyone could be so kind to give me a clear > explication regarding how to manage this sail?> > could be appreciated photos and videos on this item!!!!!> > thanks so much> > fair winds> > alessandro> >> > >


Re: [Amel] twin headsails for downwind

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

When running down the coast of Africa with good trades you may also want to lay out a 15 to 25 mm line in the shape of U cleated on both aft cleats to help stop her slow the left to right motion with an aft cornering large sea.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 8, 2012, at 12:44, "alexgennai" <agennai@mac.com> wrote:

I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM 2K #443 and I'm preparing to cross atlantic at the end of november. I suppose that the twin headsail are very helpful in downwind sailing but in the owner manual it is not so clear how to hoist and lower the head balooner.
Anyone could be so kind to give me a clear explication regarding how to manage this sail?
could be appreciated photos and videos on this item!!!!!
thanks so much
fair winds
alessandro


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SM 2000 manuals for download

Dave_Benjamin
 

I've put some copies of the SM 2000 manual on my website.

French - http://islandplanetsails.com/amel/manuel.pdf

English - http://islandplanetsails.com/amel/manual.pdf

German - http://islandplanetsails.com/amel/handbuch.pdf

I can upload the Italian and Portugese if anyone needs them.


Re: [Amel] twin headsails for downwind

karkauai
 

Allessandro,
I think there's a good explanation on the website somewhere., Try searching the files section for "down wind" or "double headsail".
 
It's a bit of a hassle to put up, mostly getting all the lines in the right position.  I still have to bring the poles back in to re-route something if I haven't put it up in a while. After a few times it's really not too bad and can be done single-handed or easily with 2.  I've run short downwind runs wing on wing with one pole out which works well, too.  When you get too far off the wind to use the double headsail, you can sail on a very broad reach with one pole out and a preventer on the Main and Mizzen...I did that for 3+ days on the passage from Puerto Rico to Brunswick in 10-15kt winds and averaged 7.5kts.
 
Try putting just one pole out first to get the idea.  When you raise the second headsail you will find a wind angle that keeps it from flopping around too much as you raise it.  Find that same angle when you bring it back down on the deck.  The clip that attaches to the headsail and runs up the starbord groove in the foil just clips into a spring-loaded catch at the top of the foil.  It's nothing magical or complicated.  When you run the "mouse" up the center groove in the foil, it just lifts the catch and allows the headsail to come down.  It comes down fast, so be ready to bring it aboard.  Don't forget to bring the mouse down before you furl the headsail or you'll have a mess.
 
Hope that helps.
Kent
1999 SM 243
KRISTY


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From: "kimberlite@optonline.net" <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] twin headsails for downwind


 

Alessandro,We found a big gennaker was better for the Atlantic crossing, as we found that the twin poles only work at a small range of wind angles.They also tend to dip frighteningly close to the sea as the boat rolls. have some spare pop it rivets and the giant pop it rivet gun to reassemble the pole if you break the tip.At one point we had the gennaker up for i think more than 5 days in the trades . Night and Day.Fair windsEricsm376----- Original Message -----From: alexgennai Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:44 pmSubject: [Amel] twin headsails for downwindTo: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM 2K #443 and I'm preparing to > cross atlantic at the end of november. I suppose that the twin > headsail are very helpful in downwind sailing but in the owner > manual it is not so clear how to hoist and lower the head balooner.> Anyone could be so kind to give me a clear explication regarding > how to manage this
sail?> could be appreciated photos and videos on this item!!!!!> thanks so much> fair winds> alessandro> >

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Re: twin headsails for downwind

Dave_Benjamin
 

Alessandro,

If you would like, I can email you a copy of the original factory CD with the manual. It has detailed instructions. I'd be happy to show you in person but I suspect I won't be near your marina any time soon ;-)

Let me know what language you prefer as I think I have it in a few different ones and we can save bandwidth by not sending all of them. If it is not copyrighted I may be able to simply put it on my website for anyone to download.

Someone else mentioned a gennaker as a better option. I don't agree with that as gennakers work poorly at the wind angles the twins excel at. Gennakers are more of a reaching sail. Pole end heights are easy enough to adjust and if conditions are really adverse, I'd rather just switch to the genoa.

Most Amel owners report satisfaction with the twin headsails on extended passages.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "alexgennai" <agennai@...> wrote:

I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM 2K #443 and I'm preparing to cross atlantic at the end of november. I suppose that the twin headsail are very helpful in downwind sailing but in the owner manual it is not so clear how to hoist and lower the head balooner.
Anyone could be so kind to give me a clear explication regarding how to manage this sail?
could be appreciated photos and videos on this item!!!!!
thanks so much
fair winds
alessandro


Re: [Amel] twin headsails for downwind

eric freedman
 

Alessandro,We found a big gennaker was better for the Atlantic crossing, as we found that the twin poles only work at a small range of wind angles.They also tend to dip frighteningly close to the sea as the boat rolls. have some spare pop it rivets and the giant pop it rivet gun to reassemble the pole if you break the tip.At one point we had the gennaker up for i think more than 5 days in the trades . Night and Day.Fair windsEricsm376----- Original Message -----From: alexgennai Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:44 pmSubject: [Amel] twin headsails for downwindTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM 2K #443 and I'm preparing to > cross atlantic at the end of november. I suppose that the twin > headsail are very helpful in downwind sailing but in the owner > manual it is not so clear how to hoist and lower the head balooner.> Anyone could be so kind to give me a clear explication regarding > how to manage this sail?> could be appreciated photos and videos on this item!!!!!> thanks so much> fair winds> alessandro> >


twin headsails for downwind

alexgennai <agennai@...>
 

I'm a new owner of GRAND CRU the SM 2K #443 and I'm preparing to cross atlantic at the end of november. I suppose that the twin headsail are very helpful in downwind sailing but in the owner manual it is not so clear how to hoist and lower the head balooner.
Anyone could be so kind to give me a clear explication regarding how to manage this sail?
could be appreciated photos and videos on this item!!!!!
thanks so much
fair winds
alessandro


Charger Inverter

karkauai
 

I've changed the Subject line to reflect this discussion.
 
Mine is also an inverter/charger, Francisco.  I don't know if it was a factory installation, or if the previous owners put it in.  I leave it off except when I am using it...Charging with the generator, or inverting 24vDC-220vAC to use small appliances or microwave.  When on shore power, I can use it as well, but prefer to use my auxillary 60v 220-24v charger from Charles (93-IMC60-A).  It has 4 outputs which can be individually programmed.  I use one output to keep the 24V houseband charged, and one to keep the 12V starting battery charged.  Prior to adding the Charles IMC, I had no way to charge the starting battery except the alternators on the Yanmar and on the Onan.  When on shore power for long periods, there was nothing keeping the start battery charged.  I do occasionally run the Charles with the generator, and the Freedom with shore power, just to make sure they all work and I have a back up in case one of them fails.
 
KRISTY is also set up to receive 110v shore power.  It goes through a 110v-220v converter, then to the normal 220 circuitry.  When on 60Hz shore power (110 or 220v) my boat (and all Amels, I think) doesn't convert the frequency of AC power to 50 Hz.  I don't use the dishwasher, washer/dryer, microwave, or coffee pot when on 60Hz shore power.  I do run the A/C, however.  Some people say that might wear out the A/C a bit faster, but after 13 years of occasional 60Hz A/C use, I have had to replace only the water pump and one capacitor.  I haven't figured out any other way to run the A/C's when at the dock, except to run the generator which produces 50Hz power.  If I'm on 60 Hz shore power and need to use the microwave briefly, I turn off the main 220 breaker in the cabinet above the sink and use the inverter to produce 50Hz 220 AC from the house baatteries.  If I want to use the microwave for a prolonged period or the washer/dryer, I disconnect
from shore power and run the generator.
 
I also added an AC monitor a couple of years ago which tells me what the power coming into the boat is like...Voltage, Amperage used, and Frequency.  It's a good way to confirm what you are getting from the dock and that the generator is doing what it's supposed to, as well as monitoring amperage used.  There is an automatic switch that chooses generator over shore power when you are hooked up to shore power and turn on the generator.  The AC monitor shows that it still works as advertised, but I usually disconnect from shore power anyway when running the generator.
 
Hope this helps.
Kent
1999 SM 243
KRISTY
Currently Brunswick, GA, USA


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From: svperegrinus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Service on East Coast of US

 

Hello Kent, Thanks for your comment. Do you know if the Freedom was installed by Amel, or is it an after-market installation? Do you turn it on just for specific use or do you tend to leave it powered? On the Xantrex website, I cannot seem to find a Freedom that is an inverter only. It appears the current versions of the product are all inverter/chargers. Is this how yours is set up? Bill from s/v BeBe has most kindly explained to us his factory install. His Statpower PROsine (now Xantrex PROsine) is inverter-only, no battery charger feature included. Best, --- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, karkauai@... wrote: > > Hi Francisco abd Odette. I own SM 243 which has a Freedom 80A Charger/Inverter that provides 220v to microwave and receptacles from 24v battery bank. Also has an equalize feature to keep batteries from over-sulfating. Nice system. > Kent > SM 243 > Kristy > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Alltel > >
-----Original Message----- > From: svperegrinus <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com> > Sender: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:29:25 > To: <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> > Reply-To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Service on East Coast of US > > > Hello Bill, > > We have some 230v audio equipment for which the manufacturer makes no version other than 230v and 110v. We would therefore like to have 230v available throughout the boat at all times (subject to flipping a switch or two, of course), without necessarily having to turn on the generator or plugging into shore power. > > I will reach out to you to you via your e-mail to see what the "factory original" 230v inverter installation option looks like. I'd like to have it duplicated on our boat. > > Thanks in advance, > > Francisco + Odette > sv Peregrinus > SM2K #350 (Nov. 2001) > Miami > > > > --- In
mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@> wrote: > > > > Richard, Duncan, et al, > > > > I am not sold on the 110v conversion. You should check the number of the places in the world that provide 110v 60htz. You will find that the US and a few other places are the only places that have this voltage, while the rest of the world is 230v 50htz. Rather than doing this 110v 60htz inverter, think seriously about adding a 24 to 230v 50htz inverter assuming that you do not already have an Amel-installed 230v 50htz inverter. Then when in St. Martin, Martinique and many other Caribbean islands buy all of the 230v appliances that you need. Also, you will find that almost all of your electronic gear will accept 110 - 240 volts AC 50-60 hertz...all you need to use these is a plug adapter. > > > > If you follow the above suggestion, your Amel will be equipped for worldwide cruising. Also, remember, if worldwide
cruising is not in your plans, it will likely be in the plans of a significant number of people who may want to buy your Amel when you are ready to sell her. Be careful not to do something now that you will regret then. > > > > Amel wires the inverter in a separate circuit outside of the AC panel, with no connection between the inverter and the panel. The inverter does not go through the same breakers...there are a number of benefits with this...if you do not know, ask an experienced marine electrician. If you want to know more about the wiring scheme and location of the 230v receptacles done by Amel on a Super Maramu, write me at bill"at"svbebe.com. > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Bill > > BeBe, SM2k, #387 > > Currently N. Cyprus > > > > --- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Duncan we removed the entire Amel charging system and installed a 100 dolphin smart charger. You can get
them from Budget the in Jolly Harbor or shipped in from the imported in Florida or from Defender in Ct. We then installer a 24 to 110 inverter hard wired to a breaker panel from it we ran 110 (600 volt wire) to ground fault plugs all over the boat using the standard Amel wireways. We can now plug in to most any dock in the world and charge the batteries. Then use your USA stuff at will. Your 220 stuff will generally work so long as there are no timers like the washers and dryer they tend to dislike 60 cycle. Give me a call if you have questions. The above system has work without issue on both my AMELs and a few I've worked on. Smart chargers are the way to go in today's world. > > > > > > Regards SM 209 in Annapolis for sale > > > > > > Richard Piller > > > > > > Cell 603 767 5330 > > > > > > On Nov 10, 2011, at 13:20, Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@> wrote: > > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > > > You suggested that I convert my electrical system
to a broad range (?80-280?) charger. The boat is in the process of being checked by an electrical service company in Antigua and this would be a good time to address the issue. Can you suggest a manufacturer, etc.? > > > > > > > > Duncan > > > > On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Richard Piller wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi Kent, Epic Yachting has also been in contact with Amel to provide service for the boats. They have a deep water marina in Gloucester, VA that is fully capable of Amel service. It is a very short run from Norfolk to Severn River Marine Service. There is also Amel service available at their docks in Annapolis and in Newport RI from May to November. They are a mast cap to keel stem to stern service firm. > > > >> Richard SM 209 in Annapolis For Sale > > > >> > > > >> ________________________________ > > > >> From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@> > > > >> To: "mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com"
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:11 PM > > > >> Subject: [Amel] Amel Service on East Coast of US > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I was sad to hear of Ray's passing, he was a real peach of a guy. He worked on Kristy right after I bought her and sailed across the Gulf from Galveston to Key West and Ft. Lauderdale. > > > >> > > > >> I had a lot of quality work done on KRISTY over the last few years at Deltaville Marina on the Chesapeake. Keith, the owner, said he'd worked on several Amels in the past and is enthralled with the way they are built and their systems are laid out. He contacted Amel to see about becoming an Amel service center but got no reply. We need somewhere like that where we can get Amel-specific help on the Eastern Seaboard. I'd like to start a campaign to ask Amel to find a good yard and get them trained to work on our boats. I'd recommend Deltaville Boatyard but any good yard
would be better than having to go to Martinique or deal with folks who just don't get the Amel systems. > > > >> > > > >> Any thoughts? > > > >> Kent > > > >> SM243 > > > >> Kristy > > > >> > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >


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Re: [Amel] Re: oil cooler

karkauai
 

Tanks, Mon,
I'm sure there's one somewhere. Duh...5 years in and still don't know how everything works yet.
One day...one day.
Kent



________________________________
From: amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:17 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: oil cooler


 



Kent:

Here is a picture of the transmission fluid intercooler that is in the photos section:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/805005311/pic/238003760/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

I am virtually sure your boat will have one.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Bill & Hans,
I'm not sure I even have an oil cooler...will have to check when I get back on the boat.  I've not had water in the ATM fluid, so I guess it hasn't failed, but I'm wondering how you know if it's not functioning properly.  Is there a temp sensor somewhere?
Thanks,
Kent
1999 SM243
KRISTY


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From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 4:40 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: oil cooler

 
Hans,

Did you see the reply from Eric: end cap part number: 3312307029

I had a problem with the cooler getting clogged with debris. Is it possible that this is your problem. If so, remove the forward end cap and vacuum out with a wet/dry vacuum.

I looked for a part number on the cooler and found none.

There are a number of photos at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1228643648/pic/list

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Fethiye, Turkey

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, "Hans-Joachim" <Dr.Hofschulte@> wrote:

Hallo all,
Our gear box oil cooler (Bowman) is broken. As we are not on the boat, we need the code which is written on the rubber end covers between the oil cooler and the hose from the intake / to the impeller of the motor.
Our SM 2000 is #436, built in 2004. If someone has a
similar cooler and is on the boat to check the number, this would be of
great help, much appreciated.
Best regards Hans-Joachim

SM 2000 #436 Lisboa



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