Hello fellow Amel owners,
The most significant exposed woodwork on our Amels is the sliding
companionway hatch, and whatever finish or protectant that was
applied has clearly worn off. What have other owners done to protect
this woodwork? Has anyone removed this hatch, and, say, replaced
with King Starboard?
Thanks
Richard Tate
SM #5 Spice

Hello fellow Amel Owners

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Home based in the US Chesapeake Bay area, I offer reasonable rates and can provide a resume and references on request. If needed for the job, I have an excellent first mate (he too is a lifelong sailboat owner and USCG licensed) and can easily get good additional crew.

Feel free to call me at 410-230-0504 (home) or 757-440-2424 (cell) or send email to "symoondog@hotmail.com.

Best regards

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Has anyone experienced mast pumping while at the dock? Our '83 Mango
single spreader rig has been experiencing mast pumping while at the
dock causing the entire boat to vibrate and rattle in the mast. The
rigger suggested that we first try to install a staysail wire from
just below the foredeck light at the spreaders to a pad eye just
forward of the windless.

Hope that someone has some information on this issue prior to us
taking action on the riggers suggestion.

s/v Infinite Spirit (Mango #31)

Thanks, John. That's good to hear.Ian Jenkins, SM302

From: Anne and John Hollamby <hollamby@compuserve.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: "INTERNET:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] VolvoTMD22
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 12:25:10 -0400

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The Volvo TMD 40 on my Oyster (born 1985) had about 14,000 hours on it when
I sold it. Over the 10 years that we had it, the only work done on the
engine was cleaning the injectors and servicing the injector pump once.
Needless to say the engine did not have a belt drive camshaft.

Regards, John Hollamby, Bali Hai, SM319




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The Volvo TMD 40 on my Oyster (born 1985) had about 14,000 hours on it when
I sold it. Over the 10 years that we had it, the only work done on the
engine was cleaning the injectors and servicing the injector pump once.
Needless to say the engine did not have a belt drive camshaft.

Regards, John Hollamby, Bali Hai, SM319

Joel,

That's amazing-thanks for the info.

Eric





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From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:15 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine-Autoprop problem



Dear Dimitris:



What I am about to relate may seem hard to believe but it is absolutely
true. A few years ago I had symptoms exactly identical to yours. I had my
fuel tested, tested flow rates on my Racor filters and had the best diesel
man in town check my engine and fuel system. All was O.K. Believing that
any repair would be a dreadful ordeal, I called Jacques Carteau at Amel. I
enjoy a good relationship with Jacques and he gets great pleasure out of
teasing me. When he told me to clean my propeller I was sure he was joking.
He insisted and told me that the AUTOPROP is particularly sensitive to ANY
GROWTH, even a small amount. Feeling ridiculous and being certain I was the
victim of a joke, I dove on my boat and, believe it or not, there were
several small gooseneck barnacles, most of them on just one of the blades.
I cleaned them off and used sand paper to polish off their "footprint". The
engine problems disappeared immediately.



How can this be? To make a long story short, the AUTOPROP works as well as
it does and is extremely efficient due to the unusual shape of the propeller
blades. The blades, though not interconnected must work in complete
symmetry/unison. If any one blade is more fouled than another, that effects
it's "pitch" or angle of operation. The vortex of water coming off this
blade then causes the other blades to change pitch...it's complicated but I
hope you can understand the relationship.



I hope this will eliminate your problems. Remember, the prop must be
perfectly clean on all three blades. As a proof to this, last week I sold
an 8 month old SUPER MARAMU that sat at a dock here in Fort Lauderdale for
two months. When we pulled the boat out of the water, the propeller was
fouled, but pretty evenly on all three blades. The boat would only go 4
knots at 2000 max R.P.M. and there was a noticeable increase in vibration.
Once clean, all was normal.



Let me know how you solve your problem, please.



Good luck!



Joel F. Potter

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Hi Amel owners,

I confirm what said Joel. The Autoprop is very sensitive to any foul,
due to its independent blade spin. On Caramel, we clean each blade every
month with a simple scraper, and eventually with fine sandpaper.

Easy to do underwater, but with diving tanks or respirator-compressor.
Really hard to do properly if snorkeling.

Patrick Naegels - Caramel (SM329)

Dear Dimitris:



What I am about to relate may seem hard to believe but it is absolutely
true. A few years ago I had symptoms exactly identical to yours. I had my
fuel tested, tested flow rates on my Racor filters and had the best diesel
man in town check my engine and fuel system. All was O.K. Believing that
any repair would be a dreadful ordeal, I called Jacques Carteau at Amel. I
enjoy a good relationship with Jacques and he gets great pleasure out of
teasing me. When he told me to clean my propeller I was sure he was joking.
He insisted and told me that the AUTOPROP is particularly sensitive to ANY
GROWTH, even a small amount. Feeling ridiculous and being certain I was the
victim of a joke, I dove on my boat and, believe it or not, there were
several small gooseneck barnacles, most of them on just one of the blades.
I cleaned them off and used sand paper to polish off their "footprint". The
engine problems disappeared immediately.



How can this be? To make a long story short, the AUTOPROP works as well as
it does and is extremely efficient due to the unusual shape of the propeller
blades. The blades, though not interconnected must work in complete
symmetry/unison. If any one blade is more fouled than another, that effects
it's "pitch" or angle of operation. The vortex of water coming off this
blade then causes the other blades to change pitch...it's complicated but I
hope you can understand the relationship.



I hope this will eliminate your problems. Remember, the prop must be
perfectly clean on all three blades. As a proof to this, last week I sold
an 8 month old SUPER MARAMU that sat at a dock here in Fort Lauderdale for
two months. When we pulled the boat out of the water, the propeller was
fouled, but pretty evenly on all three blades. The boat would only go 4
knots at 2000 max R.P.M. and there was a noticeable increase in vibration.
Once clean, all was normal.



Let me know how you solve your problem, please.



Good luck!



Joel F. Potter

SUPER MARAMU #400 "MARY BROWN"

Thank you very much, I just wrote them a little message.

I hope they will find the owner

Thanks

Best regards

Yves



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick LEDROIT"
<ledroit@g...> wrote:

I have seen a super mistral at marseille harbour in France. You can
contact the CNTL.
Best regards
Patrick.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Yves Robert [mailto:yvesrobert@y...]
Envoyé : mardi 3 août 2004 03:56
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [Amel Yacht Owners] New owner of a little old Super Mistral

Hello,

I'm new in your group and new with my boat (my first one), i'd just
bought !

It's a Super Mistral (1970).

I need anything you have on it, because I'm going in a full
refection !

But i did not have any plans, measure , even of the main sail i must
change.

I hope some of you will have something for me !

TIA

PS: sorry for my english, I'm french :)





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John,

If your tank is anything like mine you cant get to the back of the strainer
from the inspection port there is a baffle in the way.. I would suggest
pumping the tank out into Gerry can or a few drums and remove and inspect
the filter it is very easy..



I have a jabsco vane pump and a large racor filter that I made up for my old
boat that I use on the Amel. I have a long soft piece of copper tubing
leading to the racor filter. From there to the jabsco pump. then to fuel
rated hose. I "polish" my own tank with this gadget once a year to clean the
crud off the bottom of the tank. It works like a charm. At Ian Jenkins
suggestion (Pen Azen) I also had Amel install a humongous racor filter and
50 liter per minute pump. As I fill the tank the fuel is pre filtered
through the racor and the fuel goes in extremely clean.

Fair winds,

Eric







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From: Anne and John Hollamby [mailto:hollamby@compuserve.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:11 AM
To: INTERNET:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine-Autoprop problem



Message text written by INTERNET:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

<

Thanks Eric for the bad news that there is an inaccessible filter built in
to the bottom of the fuel tank. The engine problem is similar to the one I
had years ago on my Oyster 435. This I tracked down to "secret" filter in
the bottom of the fuel tank which started life as a sandwich about 6"x 3" x
2" thick. The tank was GRP and the fuel lines were connected through the
top of it. The 2" sides were made of fine brass mesh and as my fuel had
suffered from a bacterial infection which I may have made worse by using a
bactericide thus putting a lot of corpses into the tank. I limped into
harbour by blowing down the fuel line for the heater which gave very
temporary relief with full power. When I opened the inspection hatch I was
able to pull the filter above the fuel level to find that the filter was
now only about one inch thick as the vacuum from the fuel pump had
collapsed the filter which was clogged with black sludge. I removed the
filter and threw it away, bending the two pipes (one was for an oil fired
heater not installed) back so that the fuel line did not reach the bottom
and the spare pipe down to the bottom so that I could suck out condensation
water from the bottom of the tank from time to time.
I am sorry to see that Amel put an inaccessible filter in the bottom of the
tank as well as mounting the Racor filter so low down that it is hard to
service. I now plan to run my tank nearly dry so that I can empty it and
throw away that internal filter.
When I was in Fiji I had the injector pump serviced (after about 12,000
hours) and the Bosch agent there suggested that he should "polish the
fuel". What this involved, and may solve the present problem without
draining the tank, was that he came along with a trolley fitted with two
very large Racor filters and an electric pump. The pump inlet was a long
tube on the end of a hose so that he could move the suction around the
bottom of the tank. The polished fuel was of course returned to the tank
making a nice swirling movement to stir up all the detritus of deceased
bacteria etc.. The process took several hours. If this solution is taken
then the only other precaution neccessary would be to blow air or fuel back
down into the tank to purge that silly internal filter whilst the polishing
is being done.
It will be interesting to hear the outcome in due course !

Best wishes from Croatia, John, Bali Hai, SM319





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Pen Azen is SM 302,June 2000 launch. The boat is in Chile but I am presently in England and need a couple of spares.I have my Volvo serial number but I dont know if the TMD22 is an A, B or C.Apparently there are subtle differences. Has anyone an SM close to mine who has the answer?
Also, when I suggested to the Volvo agents here that I should have the valve clearance checked ( I have 1500 hours) they said that this engine doesnt need it and implied that it would never need it. Does that make sense?
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<

Thanks Eric for the bad news that there is an inaccessible filter built in
to the bottom of the fuel tank. The engine problem is similar to the one I
had years ago on my Oyster 435. This I tracked down to "secret" filter in
the bottom of the fuel tank which started life as a sandwich about 6"x 3" x
2" thick. The tank was GRP and the fuel lines were connected through the
top of it. The 2" sides were made of fine brass mesh and as my fuel had
suffered from a bacterial infection which I may have made worse by using a
bactericide thus putting a lot of corpses into the tank. I limped into
harbour by blowing down the fuel line for the heater which gave very
temporary relief with full power. When I opened the inspection hatch I was
able to pull the filter above the fuel level to find that the filter was
now only about one inch thick as the vacuum from the fuel pump had
collapsed the filter which was clogged with black sludge. I removed the
filter and threw it away, bending the two pipes (one was for an oil fired
heater not installed) back so that the fuel line did not reach the bottom
and the spare pipe down to the bottom so that I could suck out condensation
water from the bottom of the tank from time to time.
I am sorry to see that Amel put an inaccessible filter in the bottom of the
tank as well as mounting the Racor filter so low down that it is hard to
service. I now plan to run my tank nearly dry so that I can empty it and
throw away that internal filter.
When I was in Fiji I had the injector pump serviced (after about 12,000
hours) and the Bosch agent there suggested that he should "polish the
fuel". What this involved, and may solve the present problem without
draining the tank, was that he came along with a trolley fitted with two
very large Racor filters and an electric pump. The pump inlet was a long
tube on the end of a hose so that he could move the suction around the
bottom of the tank. The polished fuel was of course returned to the tank
making a nice swirling movement to stir up all the detritus of deceased
bacteria etc.. The process took several hours. If this solution is taken
then the only other precaution neccessary would be to blow air or fuel back
down into the tank to purge that silly internal filter whilst the polishing
is being done.
It will be interesting to hear the outcome in due course !

Best wishes from Croatia, John, Bali Hai, SM319

I have seen a super mistral at marseille harbour in France. You can
contact the CNTL.
Best regards
Patrick.

Clean/replace all your fuel filters and let us know
what happens.
Diagnosis based on "started up and made power after
sailing in rough seas" probably shook enough trash off
the prefilter/filter media to allow full flow.
If the prop failed to fully deploy you would have a
overspeed condition due to lack of resistance.
--- Dimitris <dkra@pcsystems.gr> wrote:

I am facing continuously the following problem
which annoys me very
much and can even become dangerous.

I am starting the engine and everything is ok. I can
increase the
revolutions and the power without any problem. I go
out of the
harbor and I stop the engine for sailing every time
I am starting
the engine (after sailimg and without furling in all
sails ) I have
to wait 10 minutes until the engine increases
revolutions and the
power and as you can imagine I never know if this is
going to happen
when I am approaching land I start the engine well
before hoping
that the engine will work. I think that it could be
that the
autoprop is starting to unfold but to me it is not
normal that the
engine can not increase the revolutions. It never
happened when I
start the engine after leaving with the boat from
the harbor. I had
a technician onboard and he told me that propably
this happens
because the tank was half empty and the fuel went
out of the engine
back to the tank and the fuel pump needs time to
refill the engine
and increase the revolutions and the power. I filled
the tank but
the same happens. I even tried to pump by hand the
fuel pump on the
engine but I could not see any improvement when the
problem arise
after sailing and starting the engine.

I was suspecting air in the fuel circuit as I had
also when the boat
was delivered to me but the technician is not
convinced. He proposed
to put an electric fuel pump after the Racor filter
but I am not
very keen of doing that. . Could it be a fuel filter
problem?


This week-end I made a test suggested by Amel . As
always you never
have the problem when you are trying to find a
solution for that. I
sailed for about 45 minutes in a pretty rough sea of
about 25 Knots
apparent wind and when I started the engine it
worked normally. I
really do not know what is going on. I believe that
it is a problem
of the propeller but I do not know how long it takes
to fold and
unfold the blades. What I have done is that I furled
in the sails .
Normally when I started the engine I continue
sailing with the sails
in place and perhaps this speed is not allowing the
blades to
unfold.

Has somebody had a similar problem?

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There is a small screen inside the fuel tank.

My guess is that the screen is getting plugged with some material in the
tank.

You have to drain the tank through the inspection port and then remove the
fuel shutoff and its fittings. You will then find a

Screen made of plastic inside the tank.

My guess this is probably the problem.

Eric

kimberlite



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From: Dimitris [mailto:dkra@pcsystems.gr]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 5:35 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine-Autoprop problem



I am facing continuously the following problem which annoys me very
much and can even become dangerous.

I am starting the engine and everything is ok. I can increase the
revolutions and the power without any problem. I go out of the
harbor and I stop the engine for sailing every time I am starting
the engine (after sailimg and without furling in all sails ) I have
to wait 10 minutes until the engine increases revolutions and the
power and as you can imagine I never know if this is going to happen
when I am approaching land I start the engine well before hoping
that the engine will work. I think that it could be that the
autoprop is starting to unfold but to me it is not normal that the
engine can not increase the revolutions. It never happened when I
start the engine after leaving with the boat from the harbor. I had
a technician onboard and he told me that propably this happens
because the tank was half empty and the fuel went out of the engine
back to the tank and the fuel pump needs time to refill the engine
and increase the revolutions and the power. I filled the tank but
the same happens. I even tried to pump by hand the fuel pump on the
engine but I could not see any improvement when the problem arise
after sailing and starting the engine.

I was suspecting air in the fuel circuit as I had also when the boat
was delivered to me but the technician is not convinced. He proposed
to put an electric fuel pump after the Racor filter but I am not
very keen of doing that. . Could it be a fuel filter problem?


This week-end I made a test suggested by Amel . As always you never
have the problem when you are trying to find a solution for that. I
sailed for about 45 minutes in a pretty rough sea of about 25 Knots
apparent wind and when I started the engine it worked normally. I
really do not know what is going on. I believe that it is a problem
of the propeller but I do not know how long it takes to fold and
unfold the blades. What I have done is that I furled in the sails .
Normally when I started the engine I continue sailing with the sails
in place and perhaps this speed is not allowing the blades to
unfold.

Has somebody had a similar problem?






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<

I think it most unlikely to be an Autoprop problem. I would change the fuel
filters and if that did not do the trick I would suspect the injector pump.
The story about the tank being half full sounds like absolute rubbish.
Perhaps you need to change technician as well as filters !

Regards, John Hollamby, Bali Hai SM 319

I am facing continuously the following problem which annoys me very
much and can even become dangerous.

I am starting the engine and everything is ok. I can increase the
revolutions and the power without any problem. I go out of the
harbor and I stop the engine for sailing every time I am starting
the engine (after sailimg and without furling in all sails ) I have
to wait 10 minutes until the engine increases revolutions and the
power and as you can imagine I never know if this is going to happen
when I am approaching land I start the engine well before hoping
that the engine will work. I think that it could be that the
autoprop is starting to unfold but to me it is not normal that the
engine can not increase the revolutions. It never happened when I
start the engine after leaving with the boat from the harbor. I had
a technician onboard and he told me that propably this happens
because the tank was half empty and the fuel went out of the engine
back to the tank and the fuel pump needs time to refill the engine
and increase the revolutions and the power. I filled the tank but
the same happens. I even tried to pump by hand the fuel pump on the
engine but I could not see any improvement when the problem arise
after sailing and starting the engine.

I was suspecting air in the fuel circuit as I had also when the boat
was delivered to me but the technician is not convinced. He proposed
to put an electric fuel pump after the Racor filter but I am not
very keen of doing that. . Could it be a fuel filter problem?


This week-end I made a test suggested by Amel . As always you never
have the problem when you are trying to find a solution for that. I
sailed for about 45 minutes in a pretty rough sea of about 25 Knots
apparent wind and when I started the engine it worked normally. I
really do not know what is going on. I believe that it is a problem
of the propeller but I do not know how long it takes to fold and
unfold the blades. What I have done is that I furled in the sails .
Normally when I started the engine I continue sailing with the sails
in place and perhaps this speed is not allowing the blades to
unfold.

Has somebody had a similar problem?

Hello,

I'm new in your group and new with my boat (my first one), i'd just
bought !

It's a Super Mistral (1970).

I need anything you have on it, because I'm going in a full
refection !

But i did not have any plans, measure , even of the main sail i must
change.

I hope some of you will have something for me !

TIA

PS: sorry for my english, I'm french :)

Hello Fellow Amel enthusiasts.

While I have been lurking on this list for some time, I am only now a legitimate member as
I have finely acquired an Amel of my very own. She is a Sharki laying in Fort Lauderdale,
FL, USA. She is in need of some work and I am looking forward to making her my own. I
know from keeping up with this list that it is full of great people with great ideas and I
would love to hear from any of you any time. Of particular interest to me are tips and
tricks specific to the Sharki and her systems.

It would be very helpful to have as much first hand information about the original
systems as posable. I would love to get my hands on some schematics, wiring diagrams,
plumbing diagrams, architectural plans and a complete spec list for the 1980 Sharki. Is
there any anybody out there that might have some leads on this.

I have posted some photos to my own site because I know how much I have enjoyed
looking at other people's Amels.
Some of you may remember her from this list as "Amedee" I am still waiting for her new
name to come to me in a dream.

http://homepage.mac.com/northp/sharki/sharki.html

-North Pitney
Sharki Hull#30

Hi everyone,

As you may have noticed, we are over our 30MB photo storage limit.
As a result access is restricted until it's reduced. I notice
there's quite a few large (~400,000 byte) photos in 'Factory Tour'
folder. I will remove these--and store on CD offline.

Richard Tate
SM "Spice"