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Re: [Amel] Re: Bundaberg Port Marina

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Dennis,
well, thanks so much for your conforting verification about storage area.
I'm planning to leave Eutikia over there next October.
All the best and Happy Christmas and ...Buon Vento.
Gianni
Venezia

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Johns
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 4:24 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Bundaberg Port Marina



Hard storage at the Bundaberg Port Marina is about 10-12 feet above the river and the area around the storage area is flat (drains straight to the ocean), so we had no concern about flooding.

Dennis Johns


Re: Switching between Auto Pilot Drive Units

bent_jyllinge
 

Bill,

That actually makes perfectly good sense.

We have a rotary unit above the galley, and the noise from that one is quite annoying.

The idea of having a spare allready installed is very apealing for the longer trips, so maybe I will go that way too.

I have to say, this is a great forum for a newbie Amel-owner, I learn a lot about the boats, so thank you all,

Bent,

Karma
Mango #67

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Bent,

This is my Opinion:
You would want a redundant drive unit if you cross oceans...if not, it probably is not necessary. We left New Zealand about the same time as 18 boats on passages north in the 1,000+ mile range. We were one of three yachts that lost an autopilot drive unit. We were the only one that had an A/B switch and a second drive. All of the rest hand-steered for 7 - 10 days.

If your passages are less than four days, you may want to chance it without redundancy and/or spares. Hand-steering with two crew or less on long passages is problematic.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "bent_jyllinge" <bent_jyllinge@> wrote:

Why is it that you want a second unit at all? From all the replies it seems to be quite common?

Bent
S/Y Karma, Mango #67


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Barry" <seagasm@> wrote:

Hi Guys, Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you all. I am currently installing a Raymarine Linear drive unit to my existing Auto Pilot system. I have the original Rotary drive installed in above the Galley and the new Linear unit currently being installed in the aft cabin. I have replaced the existing quadrant for another from Amel to accommodate the new drive. All looking pretty good so far however, I need to know the switch to use so as to switch alternatively between the two drive units. I am guessing here by using a single DPDT heavy duty switch of 10amps should suffice. One side positive 24VDC switching between either drive, the other side 12VDC switching between either clutch. Any comments would be appreciated. Cheers.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 191


Re: [Amel] Steering cable

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Hi,
On our Sharki No. 181 they are 19ft. We have an Ultraflex twin rack system which may differ from the Morse.
 
Regards
Graham


________________________________
From: Joachim <shivajogi@yahoo.de>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 7:57
Subject: [Amel] Steering cable


 

Hi everybody

I am planning to replace my old Morse Command 401 sytem,

is there anybody who knows the exect lengh of the steering cables

for a sharki ?

Thank you

regards

J. Schäfer


Steering cable

Joachim
 

Hi everybody

I am planning to replace my old Morse Command 401 sytem,

is there anybody who knows the exect lengh of the steering cables

for a sharki ?

Thank you

regards

J. Schäfer


Re: Bundaberg Port Marina

sbmesasailor
 

Hard storage at the Bundaberg Port Marina is about 10-12 feet above the river and the area around the storage area is flat (drains straight to the ocean), so we had no concern about flooding.
 
Dennis Johns

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[Amel] Re: Small corked cavity on front of keel - is this for a forward facing sonar ?

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hi Joel,

The Tinley Electronics Black Box only converts NMEA SOG to the paddlewheel B&G input. We were having trouble with the sonic speed and wanted speed data going to the Hydra and to the analog instrument, so we added this.

I should have said STW (speed through the water) rather than SOW.

Bill
BeBe

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel F Potter" <jfpottercys@...> wrote:

Hey Bill and welcome back to Texas.

Is SOW the same as speed through water? How does this unit measure actual
speed through the water as opposed to speed over ground/bottom?

Has it been reliable and accurate? Looks interesting.



All the best,

Joel





Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: jfpottercys@...





From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:26 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Small corked cavity on front of keel - is this for a
forward facing sonar ?





Hi,

No, #387 does not have a second speed sensor underneath the vestibule and a
further depth sensor underneath the sole of the forward cabin. We did
install a "virtual paddlewheel" made by www.tinleyelectronics.com. This
device takes SOG input from the GPS and sends SOW information in B&G format
to the B&G Hydra. We can switch the SOW input between the sonic speed and
the GPS speed with the selected input showing on the B&G analog and on the
Hydra FFD.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Fethiye, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , svperegrinus <no_reply@>
wrote:

Hello Bill and Judy,

Our boat has the same keel and hull fittings with rear-facing sensor in
the hull and forward-looking sensor in the keel as in your fine photos.
Nonetheless:

(1) We do not have B&G (Have Raytheon instead)

(2) I have not found any wiring leads to these two sensor positions

(3) There is an Airmar paddlewheel sensor. The paddlewheel is accessible
from the undersole of the vestibule between the salon and the forward cabin.

(4) There appears to be a blank plug to what might be the rear-facing
sensor, without wiring leads, in the aft undersole storage under the salon
table (i.e., just forward of the bench refrigerator/freezer)

So I am speculating the Amel SM2K molds around #350 and #387 have
provision for a B&G dual sensor/refracting sensor type but in some instances
this went unused.

Our manual cheerfully calls the rear facing and forward facing sensors
such as yours "K" and "L" thru-hull fittings for the sonic speed sensor!

Do you have a second speed sensor underneath the vestibule and a further
depth sensor underneath the sole of the forward cabin?

"Curious in Miami"

F + O
Peregrinus
#350 (Nov 2001)



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe"
<yahoogroups@> wrote:

Colin,

Check out this photo:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/24
2284717/view?picmode=
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/2
42284717/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc>
&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

More photos at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/li
st?mode=tn
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/l
ist?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc> &order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

I think that what you are describing could be the keel sonic speed
sensor.

There is an Amel Option for Sonar, but since I do not have that option,
I cannot comment.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "islandpearl2_sm2k332"
<colin.d.streeter@> wrote:

Dear Colleagues

On slipping Island Pearl II today following our 11,779 n.mile trip I
was very surprised to see what appeared to be a corked off cavity on the
forward facing leading edge of the keel about 800mm from the bottom of the
keel. Having not noticed this when purchasing, I am wondering if this is a
standard feature of these boats and what it is for? Basically it looks like
the perfect position for a forward facing sonar scanner but I was not aware
of this seemingly purpose made cavity before.

Is this a standard feature on the Super Maramu 2000, or an option, and
if so what is it for? Also, most importantly, how does one access this from
inside for the purpose of running wires from inside?

Best regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II - SM2k # 332
http://skipr.net/where-is/boat-pages/?boatid=799




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel] Re: Small corked cavity on front of keel - is this for a forward facing sonar ?

amelforme
 

Hey Bill and welcome back to Texas.

Is SOW the same as speed through water? How does this unit measure actual
speed through the water as opposed to speed over ground/bottom?

Has it been reliable and accurate? Looks interesting.



All the best,

Joel





Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: jfpottercys@att.net





From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:26 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Small corked cavity on front of keel - is this for a
forward facing sonar ?





Hi,

No, #387 does not have a second speed sensor underneath the vestibule and a
further depth sensor underneath the sole of the forward cabin. We did
install a "virtual paddlewheel" made by www.tinleyelectronics.com. This
device takes SOG input from the GPS and sends SOW information in B&G format
to the B&G Hydra. We can switch the SOW input between the sonic speed and
the GPS speed with the selected input showing on the B&G analog and on the
Hydra FFD.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Fethiye, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , svperegrinus <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Hello Bill and Judy,

Our boat has the same keel and hull fittings with rear-facing sensor in
the hull and forward-looking sensor in the keel as in your fine photos.
Nonetheless:

(1) We do not have B&G (Have Raytheon instead)

(2) I have not found any wiring leads to these two sensor positions

(3) There is an Airmar paddlewheel sensor. The paddlewheel is accessible
from the undersole of the vestibule between the salon and the forward cabin.

(4) There appears to be a blank plug to what might be the rear-facing
sensor, without wiring leads, in the aft undersole storage under the salon
table (i.e., just forward of the bench refrigerator/freezer)

So I am speculating the Amel SM2K molds around #350 and #387 have
provision for a B&G dual sensor/refracting sensor type but in some instances
this went unused.

Our manual cheerfully calls the rear facing and forward facing sensors
such as yours "K" and "L" thru-hull fittings for the sonic speed sensor!

Do you have a second speed sensor underneath the vestibule and a further
depth sensor underneath the sole of the forward cabin?

"Curious in Miami"

F + O
Peregrinus
#350 (Nov 2001)



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe"
<yahoogroups@> wrote:

Colin,

Check out this photo:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/24
2284717/view?picmode=
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/2
42284717/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc>
&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

More photos at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/li
st?mode=tn
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/l
ist?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc> &order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

I think that what you are describing could be the keel sonic speed
sensor.

There is an Amel Option for Sonar, but since I do not have that option,
I cannot comment.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "islandpearl2_sm2k332"
<colin.d.streeter@> wrote:

Dear Colleagues

On slipping Island Pearl II today following our 11,779 n.mile trip I
was very surprised to see what appeared to be a corked off cavity on the
forward facing leading edge of the keel about 800mm from the bottom of the
keel. Having not noticed this when purchasing, I am wondering if this is a
standard feature of these boats and what it is for? Basically it looks like
the perfect position for a forward facing sonar scanner but I was not aware
of this seemingly purpose made cavity before.

Is this a standard feature on the Super Maramu 2000, or an option, and
if so what is it for? Also, most importantly, how does one access this from
inside for the purpose of running wires from inside?

Best regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II - SM2k # 332
http://skipr.net/where-is/boat-pages/?boatid=799


Re: Small corked cavity on front of keel - is this for a forward facing sonar ?

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hi,

No, #387 does not have a second speed sensor underneath the vestibule and a further depth sensor underneath the sole of the forward cabin. We did install a "virtual paddlewheel" made by www.tinleyelectronics.com. This device takes SOG input from the GPS and sends SOW information in B&G format to the B&G Hydra. We can switch the SOW input between the sonic speed and the GPS speed with the selected input showing on the B&G analog and on the Hydra FFD.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Fethiye, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, svperegrinus <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hello Bill and Judy,

Our boat has the same keel and hull fittings with rear-facing sensor in the hull and forward-looking sensor in the keel as in your fine photos. Nonetheless:

(1) We do not have B&G (Have Raytheon instead)

(2) I have not found any wiring leads to these two sensor positions

(3) There is an Airmar paddlewheel sensor. The paddlewheel is accessible from the undersole of the vestibule between the salon and the forward cabin.

(4) There appears to be a blank plug to what might be the rear-facing sensor, without wiring leads, in the aft undersole storage under the salon table (i.e., just forward of the bench refrigerator/freezer)

So I am speculating the Amel SM2K molds around #350 and #387 have provision for a B&G dual sensor/refracting sensor type but in some instances this went unused.

Our manual cheerfully calls the rear facing and forward facing sensors such as yours "K" and "L" thru-hull fittings for the sonic speed sensor!

Do you have a second speed sensor underneath the vestibule and a further depth sensor underneath the sole of the forward cabin?

"Curious in Miami"

F + O
Peregrinus
#350 (Nov 2001)



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

Colin,

Check out this photo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/242284717/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

More photos at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

I think that what you are describing could be the keel sonic speed sensor.

There is an Amel Option for Sonar, but since I do not have that option, I cannot comment.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "islandpearl2_sm2k332" <colin.d.streeter@> wrote:

Dear Colleagues

On slipping Island Pearl II today following our 11,779 n.mile trip I was very surprised to see what appeared to be a corked off cavity on the forward facing leading edge of the keel about 800mm from the bottom of the keel. Having not noticed this when purchasing, I am wondering if this is a standard feature of these boats and what it is for? Basically it looks like the perfect position for a forward facing sonar scanner but I was not aware of this seemingly purpose made cavity before.

Is this a standard feature on the Super Maramu 2000, or an option, and if so what is it for? Also, most importantly, how does one access this from inside for the purpose of running wires from inside?

Best regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II - SM2k # 332
http://skipr.net/where-is/boat-pages/?boatid=799


Re: [Amel] Re: Small corked cavity on front of keel - is this for a forward facing sonar ?

amelforme
 

Greetings Everybody.

Originally, all SM 53 had B&G sailing instrumentation. When Raymarine
started to offer an attractive alternative, they were offered as an option.
The B&G instruments offered a sonic speed "transducer" that is actually a
"speaker" facing aft towards the keel that sends ultrasonic sound to a
"listener" facing forward and up towards the speaker that catches these
sound waves and by employing the Doppler effect ( example: the sound of a
steady speed rail train changes as it approaches and then travels away ) to
measure the speed of the boat through the water. These sonic speed
components had to be installed and molded into the hull at the start of the
laminating process. As sometimes at this point it was not known if B&G or
Raymarine would eventually be installed and it would not be economically
feasible to install the B&G components later on, all the boats got the B&G
stuff even if they eventually were outfitted with Raymarine.



The B&G system works great.until it doesn't work. It is an extremely
expensive proposition to replace the sonic speed transducers on a boat that
is complete. Anything can be done with enough attitude and resources but
most of my clients use a paddlewheel replacement if the sonic speed fails.
Several other marine electronics companies offered a sonic speed style
replacement that was on a single vertical stick style plug transducer, but
the folks I know who tried one were very less than pleased with the results.



The small empty section at the top forward part of the keel is able to be
accessed in case of a severe grounding to see if water is present to
determine damage as this is a vulnerable interface position where the keel
joins the hull; lots of stress here in a hard grounding. It was not intended
to mount any type of transducer in this position.



The vertical tube with wires inside just in front of the top loading
freezer/fridge is where the wiring for the sonic speed listener come in to
the interior.



The only reason I know this arcane stuff is because Jacques Carteau was kind
enough to give me a comprehensive show and tell on all the evolutionary
changes on the boats every time I visited the shipyard so I would be better
prepared to make accurate sales presentations and later be better equipped
to give advice on eventual repairs to Amel's sometimes unconventional
approach to certain challenges. I used to look forward to my visits with him
very much as he is a really clever guy with a very dry sense of humor who
liked to fool around inside my head on occasion in order to get me to
understand the in-understandable. He is happily retired today.



All the best and Happy Christmas,



Joel



Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: jfpottercys@att.net





From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svperegrinus
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Small corked cavity on front of keel - is this for a
forward facing sonar ?





Hello Bill and Judy,

Our boat has the same keel and hull fittings with rear-facing sensor in the
hull and forward-looking sensor in the keel as in your fine photos.
Nonetheless:

(1) We do not have B&G (Have Raytheon instead)

(2) I have not found any wiring leads to these two sensor positions

(3) There is an Airmar paddlewheel sensor. The paddlewheel is accessible
from the undersole of the vestibule between the salon and the forward cabin.

(4) There appears to be a blank plug to what might be the rear-facing
sensor, without wiring leads, in the aft undersole storage under the salon
table (i.e., just forward of the bench refrigerator/freezer)

So I am speculating the Amel SM2K molds around #350 and #387 have provision
for a B&G dual sensor/refracting sensor type but in some instances this went
unused.

Our manual cheerfully calls the rear facing and forward facing sensors such
as yours "K" and "L" thru-hull fittings for the sonic speed sensor!

Do you have a second speed sensor underneath the vestibule and a further
depth sensor underneath the sole of the forward cabin?

"Curious in Miami"

F + O
Peregrinus
#350 (Nov 2001)

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe"
<yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Colin,

Check out this photo:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/24
2284717/view?picmode=
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/2
42284717/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc>
&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

More photos at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/li
st?mode=tn
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/l
ist?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc> &order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

I think that what you are describing could be the keel sonic speed sensor.

There is an Amel Option for Sonar, but since I do not have that option, I
cannot comment.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "islandpearl2_sm2k332"
<colin.d.streeter@> wrote:

Dear Colleagues

On slipping Island Pearl II today following our 11,779 n.mile trip I was
very surprised to see what appeared to be a corked off cavity on the forward
facing leading edge of the keel about 800mm from the bottom of the keel.
Having not noticed this when purchasing, I am wondering if this is a
standard feature of these boats and what it is for? Basically it looks like
the perfect position for a forward facing sonar scanner but I was not aware
of this seemingly purpose made cavity before.

Is this a standard feature on the Super Maramu 2000, or an option, and
if so what is it for? Also, most importantly, how does one access this from
inside for the purpose of running wires from inside?

Best regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II - SM2k # 332
http://skipr.net/where-is/boat-pages/?boatid=799


Re: [Amel] Re: Switching between Auto Pilot Drive Units

karkauai
 

Hi Barry,
I think you'll find that the noise in the aft cabin will interfere with sleep on passages. We use the rotary at nite and the linear during the day. That way we know both are in working order at all times.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Alltel


Re: Switching between Auto Pilot Drive Units

Barry <seagasm@...>
 

Thank you Bill, that is precisely the reason why we are having an additional unit installed. The rotary drive is working OK having been around some of the Pacific without failure and the new linear drive will become the primary unit when completed. I have located a 25amp 4 pole changeover switch so we should receive that in a couple of days.

Thank you to all those who assisted with suggestions, I will post photos of the modification soon, in the meantime, safe sailing everyone.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Bent,

This is my Opinion:
You would want a redundant drive unit if you cross oceans...if not, it probably is not necessary. We left New Zealand about the same time as 18 boats on passages north in the 1,000+ mile range. We were one of three yachts that lost an autopilot drive unit. We were the only one that had an A/B switch and a second drive. All of the rest hand-steered for 7 - 10 days.

If your passages are less than four days, you may want to chance it without redundancy and/or spares. Hand-steering with two crew or less on long passages is problematic.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "bent_jyllinge" <bent_jyllinge@> wrote:

Why is it that you want a second unit at all? From all the replies it seems to be quite common?

Bent
S/Y Karma, Mango #67


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Barry" <seagasm@> wrote:

Hi Guys, Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you all. I am currently installing a Raymarine Linear drive unit to my existing Auto Pilot system. I have the original Rotary drive installed in above the Galley and the new Linear unit currently being installed in the aft cabin. I have replaced the existing quadrant for another from Amel to accommodate the new drive. All looking pretty good so far however, I need to know the switch to use so as to switch alternatively between the two drive units. I am guessing here by using a single DPDT heavy duty switch of 10amps should suffice. One side positive 24VDC switching between either drive, the other side 12VDC switching between either clutch. Any comments would be appreciated. Cheers.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 191


Re: Small corked cavity on front of keel - is this for a forward facing sonar ?

svperegrinus <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Bill and Judy,

Our boat has the same keel and hull fittings with rear-facing sensor in the hull and forward-looking sensor in the keel as in your fine photos. Nonetheless:

(1) We do not have B&G (Have Raytheon instead)

(2) I have not found any wiring leads to these two sensor positions

(3) There is an Airmar paddlewheel sensor. The paddlewheel is accessible from the undersole of the vestibule between the salon and the forward cabin.

(4) There appears to be a blank plug to what might be the rear-facing sensor, without wiring leads, in the aft undersole storage under the salon table (i.e., just forward of the bench refrigerator/freezer)

So I am speculating the Amel SM2K molds around #350 and #387 have provision for a B&G dual sensor/refracting sensor type but in some instances this went unused.

Our manual cheerfully calls the rear facing and forward facing sensors such as yours "K" and "L" thru-hull fittings for the sonic speed sensor!

Do you have a second speed sensor underneath the vestibule and a further depth sensor underneath the sole of the forward cabin?

"Curious in Miami"

F + O
Peregrinus
#350 (Nov 2001)

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Colin,

Check out this photo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/242284717/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

More photos at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1217837093/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

I think that what you are describing could be the keel sonic speed sensor.

There is an Amel Option for Sonar, but since I do not have that option, I cannot comment.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "islandpearl2_sm2k332" <colin.d.streeter@> wrote:

Dear Colleagues

On slipping Island Pearl II today following our 11,779 n.mile trip I was very surprised to see what appeared to be a corked off cavity on the forward facing leading edge of the keel about 800mm from the bottom of the keel. Having not noticed this when purchasing, I am wondering if this is a standard feature of these boats and what it is for? Basically it looks like the perfect position for a forward facing sonar scanner but I was not aware of this seemingly purpose made cavity before.

Is this a standard feature on the Super Maramu 2000, or an option, and if so what is it for? Also, most importantly, how does one access this from inside for the purpose of running wires from inside?

Best regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II - SM2k # 332
http://skipr.net/where-is/boat-pages/?boatid=799


Re: Switching between Auto Pilot Drive Units

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bent,

This is my Opinion:
You would want a redundant drive unit if you cross oceans...if not, it probably is not necessary. We left New Zealand about the same time as 18 boats on passages north in the 1,000+ mile range. We were one of three yachts that lost an autopilot drive unit. We were the only one that had an A/B switch and a second drive. All of the rest hand-steered for 7 - 10 days.

If your passages are less than four days, you may want to chance it without redundancy and/or spares. Hand-steering with two crew or less on long passages is problematic.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "bent_jyllinge" <bent_jyllinge@...> wrote:

Why is it that you want a second unit at all? From all the replies it seems to be quite common?

Bent
S/Y Karma, Mango #67


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Barry" <seagasm@> wrote:

Hi Guys, Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you all. I am currently installing a Raymarine Linear drive unit to my existing Auto Pilot system. I have the original Rotary drive installed in above the Galley and the new Linear unit currently being installed in the aft cabin. I have replaced the existing quadrant for another from Amel to accommodate the new drive. All looking pretty good so far however, I need to know the switch to use so as to switch alternatively between the two drive units. I am guessing here by using a single DPDT heavy duty switch of 10amps should suffice. One side positive 24VDC switching between either drive, the other side 12VDC switching between either clutch. Any comments would be appreciated. Cheers.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 191


Re: FW:Wifi Antenna

martynas29
 

No need to spend thousands$$ on these wifi, I have Mikrotik weatherproof router for 99$ http://routerboard.com/RBMetal2SHPn and its excellent, can catch signals from few miles (it includes PoE injector). Slightly less powerfull cost 79USD http://routerboard.com/RBGrooveA2Hn
Tried with 1m TP LINK antenna and catch wifi from at least 2km. Very usefull when catch wifi sailing close to the coast or staying at anchor in the bay.

best regards
Martynas

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, SAMET GOLGECI <finikeyachting@...> wrote:

Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:05:40 +0800
Subject: Wifi Antenna
From: Alamic Yacht Deniz
To: *Undisclosed* Recipients

Hi Everyone,

Very useful Wifi Antenne Lite Plus is Strongly recommended..

Regards to Everyone, More Power..

Alamic Yacht Deniz

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Re: Switching between Auto Pilot Drive Units

bent_jyllinge
 

Why is it that you want a second unit at all? From all the replies it seems to be quite common?

Bent
S/Y Karma, Mango #67

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Barry" <seagasm@...> wrote:

Hi Guys, Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you all. I am currently installing a Raymarine Linear drive unit to my existing Auto Pilot system. I have the original Rotary drive installed in above the Galley and the new Linear unit currently being installed in the aft cabin. I have replaced the existing quadrant for another from Amel to accommodate the new drive. All looking pretty good so far however, I need to know the switch to use so as to switch alternatively between the two drive units. I am guessing here by using a single DPDT heavy duty switch of 10amps should suffice. One side positive 24VDC switching between either drive, the other side 12VDC switching between either clutch. Any comments would be appreciated. Cheers.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 191


FW:Wifi Antenna

SAMET GOLGECI
 

Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:05:40 +0800
Subject: Wifi Antenna
From: Alamic Yacht Deniz
To: *Undisclosed* Recipients

Hi Everyone,

Very useful Wifi Antenne Lite Plus is Strongly recommended..

Regards to Everyone, More Power..

Alamic Yacht Deniz

http://www.syrens-at-sea.com http://www.radio-at-sea.com


--
Saygilarimizla / Best Regards / Mit Freundliche Grusse;


Samet Golgeci
Managing Owner
Finike Yachting Agency

Tel & Fax : +90 242 855 57 57
Gsm 1: +90 533 772 55 85
Gsm 2: +90 542 657 43 03
Web : www.finikeyachting.com
E-mail : info@finikeyachting.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Transitlog Renewals + Check in & out procedures for Turkey + Brokerage
Yacht Guardianage including technical services and maintenance
Real Estate consultancy including organise house repairs + Maintenance
Supervising vacant property + Fresh Provisions & Supplies + Duty Free Diesel
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Re: [Amel] Re: Switching between Auto Pilot Drive Units

Patrick McAneny
 

Barry, I installed a linear drive in my SM last winter. I used a rotary
switch produced by Blue Seas. You can purchase it from many sources, I
purchased mine from West Marine. I do not remember the model # , but could probably
find it. I do not know about your boat, but to install mine I had to modify
and refabricate the area under the bed in order to install the drive unit.
Pat
Shenanigans


Re: Forward bulkhead door handle

gallivantbob <bobh@...>
 

John,
I m wondering if you have found a source for the door handle. I also need one for the rear bulkhead door on my 54, I assume it may be the same one? Any info would be appreciated.
Bob & Mary Lu
Gallivant, 54 #31, currently in Puerto Rico

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, johnabo2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:

The door handle on the forward waterproof door just snapped off at the collar. I have taken out all of the screws I can see, but still cannot see any way of removing the mechanism and I do not want to force it and do any more damage. I have 2 questions:

1. Does anybody know how to remove the mechanism from the door?
2. Did Amel custom make it, or is it from a supplier and if so does any body know where I can buy a replacement?


Re: [Amel] Bundaberg Port Marina

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Dennis,
thanks so much for infos.
Which is your opinion about the the cradle. I read some where that may be problem with flood.
The hard level is high enough ?
Ciao
Gianni

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Johns
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:11 AM
Subject: [Amel] Bundaberg Port Marina



Hello Giovanni,

Bundaberg Port Marina, less than a mile up the Burnett River, is a modern facility with a large yacht hoist. The other boat yard (near the city, 12 miles up the river) is less upscale with only a sled to haul boats and as my Maramu was too large for them, your SM will also be too large for them.

We are hauled out and in storage for the cyclone season,. We have not had the opportunity to use and evaluate any of the services (i.e. SS fabrication, riggers, etc.).

Our insurance contract specified that we had to be south of Lat 25 S during the cyclone season but we were able to negotiate a change to the contract to read Lat 24 S.

Dennis


Re: Switching between Auto Pilot Drive Units

Barry <seagasm@...>
 

Bill, a closer look and a little research would suggest the switch is a 4 pole changeover switch, perhaps the rotary type. I understand these to be available from electrical wholesalers which I will check out tomorrow. Thanks again for your help.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Barry" <seagasm@...> wrote:

Thank you Bill, now where do I find one of those switches, I note you refer to it as a Raymarine A-B Drive Switch. Is it one of their products?

Regards, Barry
Tradewinds III SM 171


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

Barry & Robyn,

Two things:

Photos at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1112519422/pic/list

And, the drives are wired on SM #387 with aft linear drive with the polarity reversed. DC motors will reverse when polarity is reversed and it was required to wire the aft with the drive motor with reversed polarity.

I see you know about the clutch voltage. Be sure you select 12VDC on the Course Computer.

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently moored in Fethiye, Turkey with crew on leave to Houston, Texas

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Barry" <seagasm@> wrote:

Hi Guys, Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you all. I am currently installing a Raymarine Linear drive unit to my existing Auto Pilot system. I have the original Rotary drive installed in above the Galley and the new Linear unit currently being installed in the aft cabin. I have replaced the existing quadrant for another from Amel to accommodate the new drive. All looking pretty good so far however, I need to know the switch to use so as to switch alternatively between the two drive units. I am guessing here by using a single DPDT heavy duty switch of 10amps should suffice. One side positive 24VDC switching between either drive, the other side 12VDC switching between either clutch. Any comments would be appreciated. Cheers.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 191