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Re: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

I should have added , have a look at the view through the portlights.


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From: Dr. H.-J. Hofschulte <Dr.Hofschulte@t-online.de>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2013, 8:33
Subject: AW: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior


 
Photoshop ?

Johanna-Amalthea SM #436

Von: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Sailorman
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013 08:01
An: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior

Wow ,

what an amazing and beautiful job,

I have a few questions.

What are the cut out on either side of the sink for?

What did you do with the dishwasher , and washing machine.

Who did this refit?
Where did you get the matching mahogany.

Just a magnificent job.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of jean Paillardon
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Amel] lifting of SM

Hello,
My boat name is "Too Much" (SM #366). I did some alteration inside the boat.

Click on
http://www.nathape.com/res/Marz2012MalaysiaThailand/20120815sytoomuch360.swf
to visit ...

Too Much or not Too Much ?!

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Re: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Photoshop, indeed I tend to agree.


________________________________
From: Dr. H.-J. Hofschulte <Dr.Hofschulte@t-online.de>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2013, 8:33
Subject: AW: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior


 
Photoshop ?

Johanna-Amalthea SM #436

Von: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Sailorman
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013 08:01
An: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior

Wow ,

what an amazing and beautiful job,

I have a few questions.

What are the cut out on either side of the sink for?

What did you do with the dishwasher , and washing machine.

Who did this refit?
Where did you get the matching mahogany.

Just a magnificent job.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf Of jean Paillardon
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Amel] lifting of SM

Hello,
My boat name is "Too Much" (SM #366). I did some alteration inside the boat.

Click on
http://www.nathape.com/res/Marz2012MalaysiaThailand/20120815sytoomuch360.swf
to visit ...

Too Much or not Too Much ?!



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Re: [Amel] Original Standing Rigging Sizes...Sharki

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Hi Mark,
No I did not, I withdrew the bolts and inspected them, they were fine and re-bedded the chainplates.

Regards
Graham


________________________________
From: sharki41 <hannamj@juno.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2013, 1:42
Subject: Re: [Amel] Original Standing Rigging Sizes...Sharki


 
Thank You Graham.
Mark
PS. Did you replace the chain plates or chain plate mounting bolts when you replaced the rigging?

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Graham Johnston wrote:

Hi Mark,
Main cap shrouds 7mm
Main lowers 7mm
Forestay and backstay 8mm
 
Mizzen, (very oddly) 5.5mm
I used 6mm replacement on the mizzen.
 
I wonder why dyform as the original wire and pin sizes are really well over engineered, perhaps it was to  reduce windage and make her sail faster:-)
 
Regards,
Graham    Sharki No.181


________________________________
From: sharki41
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013, 6:19
Subject: [Amel] Original Standing Rigging Sizes...Sharki


 

Could someone please tell me what size was the original standing rigging on a Sharki ? My boat was re-rigged by the previous owners with Dyform wire rope. The main shrouds are 7mm and the main forstay and backstay are 8mm. The mizzen is rigged in 6mm Dyform. Norseman fittings are used everywhere.
Thank You.
Mark ( Amel Sharki, No. 49 )




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Re: [Amel] loose gooseneck

Mark Hayden
 

Hi Joel,

Thanks for the prompt reply.

The wiggle appears to be due to looseness in the horizontal bolts that attach the boom to the aluminum piece at the gooseneck. He is proposing taking the boom off, removing the aluminum piece, drilling a somewhat larger hole, and inserting a steel bushing around the bolt to remove the wobble. I would estimate that each of the booms has about 5-10 degrees of freedom to rotate (in the axis along the length of the vessel) because of looseness of the bolt in the aluminum block. Of course, I'm _not_ referring to the two other freedoms of movement that are obviously intended by using an aluminum block and two bolts. I'd be happy to send a picture if this isn't clear.

The rigger appears to be knowledgeable and says he has done this kind of operation before.

The question I have is: whether the wobble should be there? Should I do anything about it?

As you are aware, SV Northfork was once your SM2K demo vessel. In the intervening years it has been not once but twice around the world (we are in Cape Town South Africa about to head across the Atlantic)... so a little wear between the bolt/aluminum is perhaps understandable :).

best regards, Mark

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel F Potter" wrote:

Always pay attention to a professional rigger until he proves otherwise.
That said, I have had many of them unfamiliar with aspects of Amel stuff get
kind of snarky. The dreaded "Not invented here" syndrome.



Mark, what part is loose? If there is "slop" in the aluminum piece that
takes the vertical and horizontal axis bolts, I would replace it rather than
drill things oversize. If the bolts are worn, well, call the Guinness book
of World Records. Probably the aluminum piece. It is a simple piece of hard
aluminum that should be easy to duplicate if Amel does not have them in
stock.



I am curious about this and very interested in the outcome so please be sure
to share what you find and fix. I have never seen this on SM 53's I have
sold that have been all the way around the world. Has anybody else
experienced this? The Amel gooseneck is the simplest and strongest approach
to this component I have ever seen.



All the best,

Joel





Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: jfpottercys@...





From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 6:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] loose gooseneck





I had a rigger come by today to do an annual rigging check. He though the
booms on both the main and mizzen wobbled too much. He believes the
gooseneck has worn to become somewhat loose. He recommends drilling out the
hole and inserting bushings to reduce/eliminate the wobble.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this (Joel...)? Is this an Amel-ism that
should be left as-is? Or it something that should be fixed? Has anyone had
this operation done?

Thanks in advance!

best, Mark
SM2K 331





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Re: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior

dr_hofschulte
 

Photoshop ?



Johanna-Amalthea SM #436



Von: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Sailorman
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013 08:01
An: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior





Wow ,

what an amazing and beautiful job,

I have a few questions.

What are the cut out on either side of the sink for?

What did you do with the dishwasher , and washing machine.

Who did this refit?
Where did you get the matching mahogany.

Just a magnificent job.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of jean Paillardon
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] lifting of SM

Hello,
My boat name is "Too Much" (SM #366). I did some alteration inside the boat.

Click on
http://www.nathape.com/res/Marz2012MalaysiaThailand/20120815sytoomuch360.swf
to visit ...

Too Much or not Too Much ?!


Re: Maramu access to forward part of engine

Alejandro Paquin
 

Dear Andy;
You can remove the engine without removing the dodger. We did remove our dodger to do maintenance on the gelcoat etc. We replaced the conpanionway door because for that you do need to remove the dodger.
Removing the engine cover is easy.
If you have access to a winch, or a negative forklift at the dock it will be easy.
We eneded up replacing the engine for a Yanmar
We´ve thought about that door in the corridor. I think you must buy a watertight door from someone like Vetus etc.
Regards,
Alex

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" wrote:

Dear Maramu owners,

We have the original Perkins 4154 engine on our Maramu which has developed a leak , as far as I can tell from a failed gasket - in the forward part of the engine.

My question is how to access this area, I can just about squeeze in over the starboard side but that is it. Is there a better way ??

We're even thinking of cutting an access opening from the forward part of the internal corridor ( linking saloon to aft cabin) to the engine room.

We are prepapared to lift the engine out to replace gasket and carry out any other maintenance tasks , do we have to remove the hard dodger to lift it out ??

The access hatch would remain if we need to access the forward part of the engine at a later date.

Your thoughts, experience and ideas much appreciated.

Kindest regards

Andy


Maramu access to forward part of engine

Andy Croney
 

Dear Maramu owners,

We have the original Perkins 4154 engine on our Maramu which has developed a leak , as far as I can tell from a failed gasket - in the forward part of the engine.

My question is how to access this area, I can just about squeeze in over the starboard side but that is it. Is there a better way ??

We're even thinking of cutting an access opening from the forward part of the internal corridor ( linking saloon to aft cabin) to the engine room.

We are prepapared to lift the engine out to replace gasket and carry out any other maintenance tasks , do we have to remove the hard dodger to lift it out ??

The access hatch would remain if we need to access the forward part of the engine at a later date.

Your thoughts, experience and ideas much appreciated.

Kindest regards

Andy


Re: [Amel] Original Standing Rigging Sizes...Sharki

marksharki
 

Thank You Graham.
Mark
PS. Did you replace the chain plates or chain plate mounting bolts when you replaced the rigging?

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Graham Johnston wrote:

Hi Mark,
Main cap shrouds 7mm
Main lowers 7mm
Forestay and backstay 8mm
 
Mizzen, (very oddly) 5.5mm
I used 6mm replacement on the mizzen.
 
I wonder why dyform as the original wire and pin sizes are really well over engineered, perhaps it was to  reduce windage and make her sail faster:-)
 
Regards,
Graham    Sharki No.181


________________________________
From: sharki41
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013, 6:19
Subject: [Amel] Original Standing Rigging Sizes...Sharki


 

Could someone please tell me what size was the original standing rigging on a Sharki ? My boat was re-rigged by the previous owners with Dyform wire rope. The main shrouds are 7mm and the main forstay and backstay are 8mm. The mizzen is rigged in 6mm Dyform. Norseman fittings are used everywhere.
Thank You.
Mark ( Amel Sharki, No. 49 )




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Re: [Amel] loose gooseneck

amelforme
 

Always pay attention to a professional rigger until he proves otherwise.
That said, I have had many of them unfamiliar with aspects of Amel stuff get
kind of snarky. The dreaded "Not invented here" syndrome.



Mark, what part is loose? If there is "slop" in the aluminum piece that
takes the vertical and horizontal axis bolts, I would replace it rather than
drill things oversize. If the bolts are worn, well, call the Guinness book
of World Records. Probably the aluminum piece. It is a simple piece of hard
aluminum that should be easy to duplicate if Amel does not have them in
stock.



I am curious about this and very interested in the outcome so please be sure
to share what you find and fix. I have never seen this on SM 53's I have
sold that have been all the way around the world. Has anybody else
experienced this? The Amel gooseneck is the simplest and strongest approach
to this component I have ever seen.



All the best,

Joel





Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: jfpottercys@att.net





From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 6:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] loose gooseneck





I had a rigger come by today to do an annual rigging check. He though the
booms on both the main and mizzen wobbled too much. He believes the
gooseneck has worn to become somewhat loose. He recommends drilling out the
hole and inserting bushings to reduce/eliminate the wobble.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this (Joel...)? Is this an Amel-ism that
should be left as-is? Or it something that should be fixed? Has anyone had
this operation done?

Thanks in advance!

best, Mark
SM2K 331


loose gooseneck

Mark Hayden
 

I had a rigger come by today to do an annual rigging check. He though the booms on both the main and mizzen wobbled too much. He believes the gooseneck has worn to become somewhat loose. He recommends drilling out the hole and inserting bushings to reduce/eliminate the wobble.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this (Joel...)? Is this an Amel-ism that should be left as-is? Or it something that should be fixed? Has anyone had this operation done?

Thanks in advance!

best, Mark
SM2K 331


Re: New sails for supermaramu 2k

Mark Hayden
 

I'll second Miles. In 2011 I was in Fiji realized it was time for new sails. I contacted Doyle in Auckland and they got the design and made new sails (genoa, main, mizzen, and ballooner) without coming near the boat. They have been great for about 10k nm of sailing.

The only issue was that the bolt ropes didn't extend all the way to the foot of the sails as I believe they did on the original, which causes the foot of the ballooner to flap a little.

regards, Mark
SM2K 331

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Miles Bidwell" wrote:

Six years ago I bought a set of sail from Gateff Sails in Toulon, France
(Sails Gateff is now part of Doyle Sails). Gateff makes the sails as large
as is physically possible-significantly larger than the factory
specifications. He used Hydra Net sail material which he said was the best.
(You can find out about this material on the internet.)

After a transatlantic and more, the sails look like new with absolutely no
sign of any stretching, the light air performance of the boat is
much improved, and it tacks through a smaller angle. If anyone is
interested, when Doyle bought Sails Gateff, Doyle acquired the computer
programs that run the sail cutting machine so they should be able to
duplicate the size and shape of these sails. The sails are all radial cut
and the shape of the jib can only be described as being beautiful.

Regards,

Miles (SM 216 Ladybug), now on the hard in Newport, RI



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Re: [Amel] Original Standing Rigging Sizes...Sharki

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Hi Mark,
Main cap shrouds 7mm
Main lowers 7mm
Forestay and backstay 8mm
 
Mizzen, (very oddly) 5.5mm
I used 6mm replacement on the mizzen.
 
I wonder why dyform as the original wire and pin sizes are really well over engineered, perhaps it was to  reduce windage and make her sail faster:-)
 
Regards,
Graham    Sharki No.181


________________________________
From: sharki41 <hannamj@juno.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013, 6:19
Subject: [Amel] Original Standing Rigging Sizes...Sharki


 

Could someone please tell me what size was the original standing rigging on a Sharki ? My boat was re-rigged by the previous owners with Dyform wire rope. The main shrouds are 7mm and the main forstay and backstay are 8mm. The mizzen is rigged in 6mm Dyform. Norseman fittings are used everywhere.
Thank You.
Mark ( Amel Sharki, No. 49 )




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Original Standing Rigging Sizes...Sharki

marksharki
 

Could someone please tell me what size was the original standing rigging on a Sharki ? My boat was re-rigged by the previous owners with Dyform wire rope. The main shrouds are 7mm and the main forstay and backstay are 8mm. The mizzen is rigged in 6mm Dyform. Norseman fittings are used everywhere.
Thank You.
Mark ( Amel Sharki, No. 49 )


Re: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior

Conn Williamson <connwilliamson@...>
 

I Think the portlights look fantastic down there. Top marks
 
Conn Williamson ,Jasmyn


________________________________
From: Sailorman <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: [Amel] Refit of Too much Interior


 

Wow ,

what an amazing and beautiful job,

I have a few questions.

What are the cut out on either side of the sink for?

What did you do with the dishwasher , and washing machine.

Who did this refit?
Where did you get the matching mahogany.

Just a magnificent job.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jean Paillardon
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:47 PM
To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] lifting of SM

Hello,
My boat name is "Too Much" (SM #366). I did some alteration inside the boat.

Click on
http://www.nathape.com/res/Marz2012MalaysiaThailand/20120815sytoomuch360.swf
to visit ...

Too Much or not Too Much ?!

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Re: Grounding problem? (going with tester in engine room)

ferruccilorenzo
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" wrote:

Lorenzo,

There is not enough information here for me to give you an opinion. Did you solve your Mass red light problem that you had earlier?
Hi Bill and first of all thank you for patience. The mass problem was in the 24V alternator. the mechanic had removed it to control and probably reassembled incorrectly. I have disassembled and reassembled, and now everything works.

It seems as though you have some issue with the internal ground (bonding system).
Do You think that could be a problem of galvanic current? From which test should I begin in Your opinion?

Also, without knowing what kind of meter and what range you have the meter set at, I think a "few" ohms is reasonable to cover meter error and paint or other non-conductive material where you have connected the tester wires.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387


Lorenzo
SM 2K hull n°420 "Red Passion".
Now in Livorno (Mediterranean Sea)


Re: lifting of SM

tfgbiz <tfgbiz@...>
 

wow congratulation
i have a few Q too..
did youmade a refit of all cabins or only the saloon
and where they did this amazing job? malayzia otr thailand
br
janos

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, jean Paillardon wrote:

Hello,
My boat name is "Too Much" (SM #366). I did some alteration inside the boat.

Click on http://www.nathape.com/res/Marz2012MalaysiaThailand/20120815sytoomuch360.swf to visit ...

Too Much or not Too Much ?!



old maramu chain

rossny@mail.com
 

Hi, happy new year to all !!!Questions for old maramu owners. What size
is the metric(?) chain that was supplied from Amel? Original lenth
supplied? I do not see a manufacturer name or model number on the
windless or a number for chain size on the drum. I have cleaned up the
rust on the chain but do not know if 30 year old chain (if original)can
be trusted. Thanks,Ross1989 Maramu #261


Re: Grounding problem? (going with tester in engine room)

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Lorenzo,

There is not enough information here for me to give you an opinion. Did you solve your Mass red light problem that you had earlier?

It seems as though you have some issue with the internal ground (bonding system).

Also, without knowing what kind of meter and what range you have the meter set at, I think a "few" ohms is reasonable to cover meter error and paint or other non-conductive material where you have connected the tester wires.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ferruccilorenzo" wrote:



With the 24V alternator disconnected from the electrical system, I tested the resistance with a tester between the black cable from the battery service (normally connected to the alternator) and the metal frame of the motor. The electrician told me that the resistance would have to be nothing, but in my case it is several Ohm. In your experience, this mean anything to you? There may be a problem of grounding in your opinion?

Thank you and I wish you fairwinds!

Lorenzo
SM 2K hull n°420 "Red Passion".
Now in Livorno (Mediterranean Sea)


Refit of Too much Interior

eric freedman
 

Wow ,

what an amazing and beautiful job,

I have a few questions.

What are the cut out on either side of the sink for?

What did you do with the dishwasher , and washing machine.

Who did this refit?
Where did you get the matching mahogany.

Just a magnificent job.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jean Paillardon
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] lifting of SM





Hello,
My boat name is "Too Much" (SM #366). I did some alteration inside the boat.


Click on
http://www.nathape.com/res/Marz2012MalaysiaThailand/20120815sytoomuch360.swf
to visit ...

Too Much or not Too Much ?!


Re: [Amel] New sails for supermaramu 2k

Dave_Benjamin
 

As some of you know, I'm a Maramu owner (#29) and owner of Island Planet Sails.

For sailmakers, in-mast furling mainsails are some of the simplest sails to design and build. As Joel Potter points out, Amel kept the rig sizes very consistent so there's not a lot of variation. Some information is available direct from Amel.

From a design standpoint, our principal concern is getting luff curve correct. Given the nature of a furling main with foil captive inside the mast, it's quite simple. We can measure the distance between the foil and the mast extrusion to give us a maximum sag measurement.

Luff, leech, and foot are the basic measurements of a sail. For a furling main or mizzen, the other considerations are how far up from the tack and down from the head to stop the tape.

With furling mainsails/mizzens, we don't have a wide range of adjustability like we do with conventional mains flown from more adjustable rigs. As a result, design work is pretty straight forward.

Headsails are more challenging to design. For an Amel, the first question I ask is if the downind poles are utilized. If the downwind poles are in use, then that drives the design to a large extent. If the downwind poles aren't in use, there is more flexibility in the design. As an industry we're moving away from very large genoas and towards innovative light air sails typically flown from their own foil-less furler. There's no reason not to join twin headsails on a common luff and fly those from their own furler. In fact, we're hoping to do that with our own boat as budget allows. That will free us from carrying the large genoa and allow for a more efficient and more easily managed headsail.

Amongst cruisers, there is a bit of a bias against laminate sails. The technology has come a long way and the complaints of 10 years ago simply aren't reality today. There's a lot of enthusiasm for HydraNet (a woven with Dyneema) which is an excellent product, but it's not the only solution for a long lasting sail with excellent shape retention. Personally I'm not keen on radial cut mainsails and mizzen sails simply because so much of the material ends up in the rubbish bin. Why pay for so much wasted material when there's more efficient construction methods to be utilized?

Having built sails for Amel's, I can tell you that there is no great mystery or magic formula. For mainsails and mizzens, any competent sailmaker can provide a good sail. For headsails, it is helpful if the sailmaker is versed with the Amel pole system if the boat uses downwind poles. Otherwise the headsail design should be optimized for the type of sailing anticipated, experience level of the owners, and the type of auto-pilot fitted. The fullness or flatness of the entry of the sail will vary from boat to boat.

A cookie cutter approach does not serve individual owners well.