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Re: link needed for old factory videos

eric <ericmeury@...>
 

hey dave...

can you send that to me by email.

ericmeury@yahoo.com

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" wrote:

I have a PDF of an old brochure page that explains the construction. I tried to add it to my photo album but that only accepts .jpg files.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric" wrote:

any body have the videos of the younger joel potter videos of him at the factory. I need to show somebody the difference of the deck to hull joining in the the amel vs a traditional deck to hull joint

thanks.


Power generator

Alessandro Gennai <agennai@...>
 

Hi firends,
I need your opinion concerning power generator (solar panels , wind generator, water generator) on amel supermaramu 2k; as we know she is a power consuming boat but it is worth to spend money for this kind power generator when we have to use generator for water maker, washer machine and more? In case which of these kind of power generators are more suitable for this boat? One story: during ocean passage I had to turn on generator 3h x2/day, a friend of mine with 2 panels and 1 wind generator has to turn on it 2h x2/day....is it worth????
Thanks for your help
Alessandro
GRAND CRU
amel supermaramu 2k #443
Martinica

Inviato da iPad di Alessandro Gennai


SM Cockpit Enclosure

pepinoamel <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Everyone!

Our Super Maramu 2000 No.381 came with a full cockpit enclosure but the previous owner discarded it and the one we have now is a rather poor fit. Does anybody have pictures of how the original cockpit enclosure, the cockpit curtain and cockpit winter cover, look in detail or any other well fitting enclosures made afterwards?

Gerhard SM2000 - 381 Lefkas, Greece


Re: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos

jjjk12s <jjjk12s@...>
 

Thanks, it's classic.
John

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Graham Johnston wrote:

Here you go:
http://blip.tv/wokabaut/chantiers-amel-yard-tour-1755438


Regards
Graham

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From: eric
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2013, 16:21
Subject: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos


 
any body have the videos of the younger joel potter videos of him at the factory. I need to show somebody the difference of the deck to hull joining in the the amel vs a traditional deck to hull joint

thanks.




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Re: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos

amelforme
 

No rush, please! Not until September...

Joel F. Potter
954 812 2485
iPhone

On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:14 PM, "eric" <ericmeury@yahoo.com> wrote:

pretty sure everybody loves watching old family videos. Thanks for the link.. happy 60th joel.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Joel Potter wrote:

Thanks Steve. 60 this year. When I look at that video, which I made myself so I have no one to blame, can't believe I had so much hair. Youth is wasted on young people.

Joel F. Potter
954 812 2485
iPhone

On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Steve Constantine wrote:

Who says Joel isn't still young? :-)

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From: eric ericmeury@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos



any body have the videos of the younger joel potter videos of him at the factory. I need to show somebody the difference of the deck to hull joining in the the amel vs a traditional deck to hull joint

thanks.






Re: link needed for old factory videos

Dave_Benjamin
 

I have a PDF of an old brochure page that explains the construction. I tried to add it to my photo album but that only accepts .jpg files.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric" wrote:

any body have the videos of the younger joel potter videos of him at the factory. I need to show somebody the difference of the deck to hull joining in the the amel vs a traditional deck to hull joint

thanks.


Re: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos

eric <ericmeury@...>
 

pretty sure everybody loves watching old family videos. Thanks for the link.. happy 60th joel.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Joel Potter wrote:

Thanks Steve. 60 this year. When I look at that video, which I made myself so I have no one to blame, can't believe I had so much hair. Youth is wasted on young people.

Joel F. Potter
954 812 2485
iPhone

On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Steve Constantine wrote:

Who says Joel isn't still young? :-)

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From: eric ericmeury@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos



any body have the videos of the younger joel potter videos of him at the factory. I need to show somebody the difference of the deck to hull joining in the the amel vs a traditional deck to hull joint

thanks.

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Re: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos

amelforme
 

Thanks Steve. 60 this year. When I look at that video, which I made myself so I have no one to blame, can't believe I had so much hair. Youth is wasted on young people.

Joel F. Potter
954 812 2485
iPhone

On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Steve Constantine <svsummerlove@yahoo.com> wrote:

Who says Joel isn't still young? :-)

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From: eric ericmeury@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos



any body have the videos of the younger joel potter videos of him at the factory. I need to show somebody the difference of the deck to hull joining in the the amel vs a traditional deck to hull joint

thanks.




Re: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Here you go:
http://blip.tv/wokabaut/chantiers-amel-yard-tour-1755438


Regards
Graham

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From: eric <ericmeury@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2013, 16:21
Subject: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos


 
any body have the videos of the younger joel potter videos of him at the factory. I need to show somebody the difference of the deck to hull joining in the the amel vs a traditional deck to hull joint

thanks.




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Re: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos

Steve Constantine <svsummerlove@...>
 

Who says Joel isn't still young?  :-)


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From: eric <ericmeury@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: [Amel] link needed for old factory videos


 
any body have the videos of the younger joel potter videos of him at the factory. I need to show somebody the difference of the deck to hull joining in the the amel vs a traditional deck to hull joint

thanks.


link needed for old factory videos

eric <ericmeury@...>
 

any body have the videos of the younger joel potter videos of him at the factory. I need to show somebody the difference of the deck to hull joining in the the amel vs a traditional deck to hull joint

thanks.


[Amel] Re: Maramu access to forward part of engine

jjjk12s <jjjk12s@...>
 

Andy,

Regarding drainage; like Air Ops our Maramu's aft sink and galley sink gravity drain overboard via an outlet in the lazarette. Only the two showers drain to the bilge sump. The forward sink has it's own seacock.

John Maramu #91 Popeye

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Dave and Merry wrote:

Andy,

We had our Perkins rebuilt in 2007 and took the opportunity to renew the engine compartment at that time. We stripped out the old insulation, steam-cleaned the entire compartment, then re-insulated. We also replaced the bilge pumps in the sump (this is your one chance to have good access to them), and redid the wiring and plumbing. Finally, we added an intake thru-hull to feed the aft head, watermaker, and refrigeration system leaving only the main engine and genset on the original thru-hull. Since the engine was out, we also pulled the shaft for inspection and ended up replacing it due to wear. By the way, we've had good success getting 4.154 parts from Trans Atlantic Diesels in Virginia, but they are getting more difficult to find. Having said that, it's a pretty simple engine and we've successfully had the injector pump and injectors rebuilt in Mexico, as well as the raw water pump.

It sounds like your gray water drainage is slightly different from ours. On Air Ops (this is how she was set up when we bought her in 2000) the forward sink drains directly overboard by gravity through a thru-hull in the head. The showers fore and aft do go to the engine room sump. The aft sink gravity drains as does the galley sinks through a thru-hull outboard in the lazarette. We experimented with having the forward shower drain to a box with pump at the foot of the companionway steps, with the outflow routed directly to port through a thru-hull remaining from a previous refrigeration system, but went back to sending it to the sump when the pump in the box failed and the space the box was in flooded ( a minor flood proving that Henri was right in the way he originally set things up0. Having said all of this, we've actually had no issues with the original arrangements.

Best of luck,

Dave
s/v Air Ops
Maramu 104
Puerto Escondido, BCS, Mx

On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Andrew Croney wrote:

Hi Dennis,

thanks again for your feedback - unfortunately it is an oil leak, we lifted
the engine yesterday. ( I re-routed all the seawater piping and put on a new pump a few Months ago.....

Praise again to Henri, the job was much more straightforward the I had imagined.

The "experts' are now looking at the condition of the Perkins - reconditioning, with a view of keeping it.

I am going to take this opportunity to sort the wiring in the engine room and redo forward bulkhead engine room lining.

The grey water from both aft and forward showers and sinks plus the galley
sinks go to the central bilge and are then pumped out. We're debating
whether we should put in 2 extra thru'hulls and re-run the drainage, Aft sink and shower with Galley sinks via one thru hall system and forward
sink and shower thru another.

Advice and thoughts much appreciated.

Fair winds

Andy







Re: [Amel] Re: Maramu access to forward part of engine

David Wallace
 

Andy,

We had our Perkins rebuilt in 2007 and took the opportunity to renew the engine compartment at that time. We stripped out the old insulation, steam-cleaned the entire compartment, then re-insulated. We also replaced the bilge pumps in the sump (this is your one chance to have good access to them), and redid the wiring and plumbing. Finally, we added an intake thru-hull to feed the aft head, watermaker, and refrigeration system leaving only the main engine and genset on the original thru-hull. Since the engine was out, we also pulled the shaft for inspection and ended up replacing it due to wear. By the way, we've had good success getting 4.154 parts from Trans Atlantic Diesels in Virginia, but they are getting more difficult to find. Having said that, it's a pretty simple engine and we've successfully had the injector pump and injectors rebuilt in Mexico, as well as the raw water pump.

It sounds like your gray water drainage is slightly different from ours. On Air Ops (this is how she was set up when we bought her in 2000) the forward sink drains directly overboard by gravity through a thru-hull in the head. The showers fore and aft do go to the engine room sump. The aft sink gravity drains as does the galley sinks through a thru-hull outboard in the lazarette. We experimented with having the forward shower drain to a box with pump at the foot of the companionway steps, with the outflow routed directly to port through a thru-hull remaining from a previous refrigeration system, but went back to sending it to the sump when the pump in the box failed and the space the box was in flooded ( a minor flood proving that Henri was right in the way he originally set things up0. Having said all of this, we've actually had no issues with the original arrangements.

Best of luck,

Dave
s/v Air Ops
Maramu 104
Puerto Escondido, BCS, Mx

On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Andrew Croney wrote:

Hi Dennis,

thanks again for your feedback - unfortunately it is an oil leak, we lifted
the engine yesterday. ( I re-routed all the seawater piping and put on a new pump a few Months ago.....

Praise again to Henri, the job was much more straightforward the I had imagined.

The "experts' are now looking at the condition of the Perkins - reconditioning, with a view of keeping it.

I am going to take this opportunity to sort the wiring in the engine room and redo forward bulkhead engine room lining.

The grey water from both aft and forward showers and sinks plus the galley
sinks go to the central bilge and are then pumped out. We're debating
whether we should put in 2 extra thru'hulls and re-run the drainage, Aft sink and shower with Galley sinks via one thru hall system and forward
sink and shower thru another.

Advice and thoughts much appreciated.

Fair winds

Andy





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Re: Maramu access to forward part of engine

Andy Croney
 

Hi Dennis,

thanks again for your feedback - unfortunately it is an oil leak, we lifted
the engine yesterday. ( I re-routed all the seawater piping and put on a new pump a few Months ago.....


Praise again to Henri, the job was much more straightforward the I had imagined.

The "experts' are now looking at the condition of the Perkins - reconditioning, with a view of keeping it.

I am going to take this opportunity to sort the wiring in the engine room and redo forward bulkhead engine room lining.

The grey water from both aft and forward showers and sinks plus the galley
sinks go to the central bilge and are then pumped out. We're debating
whether we should put in 2 extra thru'hulls and re-run the drainage, Aft sink and shower with Galley sinks via one thru hall system and forward
sink and shower thru another.

Advice and thoughts much appreciated.


Fair winds

Andy


Re: [Amel] Re: Vinyl headliner

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

The headliner in the aft cabin was redone by Amel in Larochelle, about 11 years ago. They cut large thin plywood pieces, covered it with felt padded vinyl and screwed same to the ceiling. Its clean but looks like a patch... the only advantage, it further isolates the roof from the tropical heat absorbed by the simili teak colored polyesther...
 
When redoing the liner for the front cabin, a local (Martinique) sailmaker who sold me the liner recommended that I use Sika (technical) rubber as glue instead of anything else.
 
I had aleady purchased contact glue, so I tried both in the inside of the rear wardrobe, where the liner was falling apart.
 
The Sika was not only easier to use but did a better looking job.
 
The front cabin liner was taken out, the base cleaned with a rotary metal brush.
The liner supplied only had a ordinary tissue backing and may be lacking the sound absorbtion and heat isolation of the felt lined vinyl, but it looks great and not as messy a job as trying to adjust the liner when the slightiest error is made...
 
The new liner is holding well after 5 years and the guys from aftersale service in Le Marin, seemed  impressed by the result when looking at the boat, 2 years ago!
 
Serge
 
V Opera
Mango 51



--- En date de : Lun, 21.1.13, Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo.com> a écrit :


De : Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo.com>
Objet : Re: [Amel] Re: Vinyl headliner
À : "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: lundi 21 janvier 2013 18 h 47



 



Wow, John. That's quite a professional looking job. I am impressed with your craftsmanship... And with your patience. Fortunately I do not have a problem yet, but if I do, I know how to get the job done. Thank you for posting such a thorough explanation of how you managed to job.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY
On Jan 21, 2013, at 6:10 PM, "jjjk12s" jjjk12s@yahoo.com> wrote:

Alex and Kent,

A description of how I did it is on post 12239.

The hull was pretty smooth but I used a grinder and face-off disk very sparingly to remove a couple of dimples in the deckhead fibreglass. The felt backing obscures the rest of the uneveness such as where the bulheads are fibreglassed in.

I couldn't find felt backed vinyl so made my own. I used polyester fleece material. It is available from fabric shops in various qualities and thicknesses. If you can buy felt backed well done. Suppliers round here only could get foam backed.

I did the gluing in two stages. First I used a heat resistant water based contact adhesive (Seleys Advanced) to glue on the felt. The key thing is that because the felt is porous the glue can be liberally applied by brush to the surface only and the felt stuck to it. The work time is enough to move the felt around to get it smooth and no toxic vapours or clean-up issues. This gives a smooth, clean and cushioned surface for the vinyl to glue on to. The second stage of gluing was to glue the vinyl to the felt. I used 3M spray auto trim adhesive. Also reasonoably easy to use if you do one bit at a time. The adhesive is a major part of the cost.

I did not remove the wood around the windows. I later on replaced the windows and see that there are countersunk screws holding that wood on. You can access them when the windows are removed but not sure if the wood is also held with glue. I used a tucking tool to tuck the vinyl under the edge of the wood. When I glued on the felt I left enough gap to do this but still tricky. It may be better to remove the wooden panels if it can be done without damaging them. Around the top the vinyl tucks behind the curtain track. I used a thin bead of off-white sealant in some places where the vinyl could not be tucked in. The area around the door to the aft cabin is probably the trickiest. I also have a canvas sewing machine so could do the sewed edges needed on some of the vinyl.

There may be an easier way to do it as this method involves gluing twice but I am pleased with the results. I would certianly not reglue up new foam backed vinyl and would not glue uncushioned vinyl directly to the fibreglass. There are other possibilities though such as panels.

John Maramu #91 Popeye

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alex" wrote:

John:
What kind of vinyl did you use?
Does it have a cushion backing? If not did you have any trouble with irregularities in the surface of the fiberglass showing through?
Did you remove the boards surrounding the side port lights to install the new material?
What adhesive did you use for the job?

Regards,
Alex
Maramu #94

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jjjk12s" wrote:

I have put up a couple of pictures of our new vinyl headliner in Popeye's photo folder. It is the same texture as original but off-white.

John, #91 Maramu, Popeye
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Rép. : [Amel] B&G masthead unit

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

The electronic technician , B&G  and Autohelm rep (Philippe) in Le Marin, Martinique. recommends that B&G Masthead unit be lubricated once a year.  He said, these expensive unit will last for ever if lubricated.
 
I brough my unit to him 4 years ago because it was malfunctioning (the anemometer would not turn in low wind).
 
Eversince... no problem, it "only" requires a journey to the masthead but when you are advised of the price for replacement unit, the urge to run up the mast is difficult to resist!
 
Serge,
 V Opera,
Mango # 51 



--- En date de : Mar, 22.1.13, John Hollamby <annejohnholl@gmail.com> a écrit :


De : John Hollamby <annejohnholl@gmail.com>
Objet : [Amel] B&G masthead unit
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: mardi 22 janvier 2013 15 h 45



 



I do not know why but I cannot find the previous message. However I do recall that B&G said that the anemometer cannot be lubed especially as when there was a B&G technician in Las Palmas before the start of an ARC circa 1990 that he rubbished that idea and lubed the anemometer with great success. We had this problem a couple of years ago and cured it by bringing the unit down and spraying silicon lube down into the inverted unit. This solved the problem (do not tell B&G)!

Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319








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B&G masthead unit

John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

I do not know why but I cannot find the previous message. However I do recall that B&G said that the anemometer cannot be lubed especially as when there was a B&G technician in Las Palmas before the start of an ARC circa 1990 that he rubbished that idea and lubed the anemometer with great success. We had this problem a couple of years ago and cured it by bringing the unit down and spraying silicon lube down into the inverted unit. This solved the problem (do not tell B&G)!

Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319


Re: B&G Mast Head unit for Hydra 2000 (Anemometer)

Stephan Regulinski
 

Bill - thanks for the great annotated photo!

All - I called Jake at B&G USA Service (B&G Service, (954) 229 0208) and the new prices are: $135 for the bearing and $490 for the circuit board. Total masthead unit replacement is $1140. So basically, you can refurbish your unit for $625 or buy a new one for $1140 (plus shipping, tax, etc.).

Jake explained that the bearing is sealed, so when it gets gummed up and slows or stops the cups from spinning, it cannot be effectively lubricated.

The circuit board is an updated version that is suppose to be the same dimensions and plug compatible.

Order time was quoted at 4 days to get part to their FL location plus base shipping time from there.

Stephan
Hanalei (SMM)


Re: side gates

Dave_Benjamin
 

Maramu Aphrodite, formerly of Santa Cruz, CA, currently in NZ??? implemented gates. It is pretty well done. Tubing was retained. The installed a spring loaded fitting that allowed a section to be released and swung down.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ya_fohi" wrote:

has anyone changed side rails to include side gates?


side gates

ya_fohi
 

has anyone changed side rails to include side gates?