Greetings from BeBe,

While cleaning the bilge sump today I noticed that the Ground Strap
was broken just above the keel bolt/nut. I uploaded a photo in a new
album titled "Bilge - Ground Strap".

Has anyone experienced this issue and repaired it?

It appears that I will need a 1/2" drive socket of unknown size and an
extension of about 55" or 140cm to be able to unscrew the keel bolt nut.

I am curious if a copper strap should be fabricated or if heavy wire
would be adequate?

Any input recommendations would be helpful.

By the way, I clean the bilge sump about every 3 - 4 months. The last
time I cleaned it was during a haul-out in June 2007. The ground
strap appeared to be fine in June. I am not sure when it failed, but
I have noticed what appears to be erosion of the SSB ground plates.
Any suggestions or input on this subject would also be appreciated.

Regards to all,

Bill Rouse, sailing with Captain Judy
S/V BeBe - SM2 #387
anchored Cartagena Colombia

Hi,

Would you please email me a copy of the traveler sheave?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ladyannila
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Jib sheet traveller remote control





Please find pictures of our new stainless steal jib sheet travaller disks in
the photo section in album Jib Sheet Traveller Remote Control.

Instead of buying new in aluminium from Amel. We made a drawing and went to
a mechanical workshop that made similar plates in stainless steal for us.
This will hopefully keep on working for the rest of our sailing life.

Fair Winds
Annsofie & Jonas
S/Y Lady Annila, SM #232

The length of the backstay with or without the triatic as with all SSB antennas
has to do with the wave length(s) you are using. The longer the wave the long
wire/antenna. Yes, the turner also works to adjust for different wave lengths
and power out put. The fact that the triatic is horizontal to plan/sea
reflection of the signal may be greater and therefore give you a better signal
both coming and going. The tuner does the rest. You can get really good
reception if you get a directional antenna like the type Southbound 2 uses. Not
the best idea for a boat...
All the best from Annapolis. SM 209 For Sale...
Richard Piller






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From: Serge Tremblay
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 1:24:16 AM
Subject: Re : [Amel] Pulling the mast


With 2 installed SSB with separate tuners, one only connected to one backstay
and one connected to the other backstay with a connection to the triatic, I have

found that the set connected to the backstay and triatic to be more performant.

However, I am not shure if the difference is not due to the tuners. The longer
antenna is tuned with a SGC (237) tuner, the other with a Icom AT 130.

Serge , Le Marin, Martinique
Opera, Mango 51

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Objet : Re: [Amel] Pulling the mast



Is there any advantage to hooking up a jumper between the top of the insulated
back stay and the triatic to increase antenna length of the SSB antenna? The
actual antenna connection would be at the base of the back stay, just above the
insulator.

Bob


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From: karkauai@...
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:09:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Pulling the mast



I think they had both the whip and triadic hooked up with a way toggle between
for ssb voice and fax respectively. Not VHF.

Kent
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From: Richard03801 < richard03801@... >
Sender: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:18:06
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com < amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com >
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Pulling the mast

Kent the weather fax is an SSB signal so when so connected you have tdy/fax
second weather fax is an "off" wave length signal.
It does NOT work well for VHF as it is to long

Regards
Richard Piller

On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:04 AM, karkauai@... wrote:

I seem to remember someone on this forum saying they actually picked up
weatherfax better using the triadic than using the whip. Maybe even used the
whip for voice and triadic for fax? Others have said that orientation vertically

would almost always give better performance than when horizontal. All seem to
agree that the antenna tuner should be as close as possible to the antenna.
Makes one wonder why Amel put it in the triadic. Joel?

Kent
SM243
KRISTY
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I have been using a Isotherm water cooled unit using my on-board water supply for the past 12 years.

NO Issues and eliminated salt water pump issues.

We filter water into the tank and have a filter on drinking water.

I taped into the water fill pipe for return taped into foot pump for pickup

Stargazer Amel sharki 135

Go Sailing

Gene C Carter

PO Box 895

Blaine WA 98231

Cell (360) 815-5388

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From: Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com>

To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comamelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:57 PM

Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Refrigeration Cooling

Tha is again for your thoughts, Craig. Right now I have air cooled fridges. When I'm ready to set sail again I'm going to do this mod, add some solar panels and a wind generator. Already about half way through the transition to all LEDs.

Where are you and Katherine now?

Kent

SM 2;3

Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:39 PM, "sv Sangaris" sangaris@aol.com> wrote:

Hi Kent,

Well, if you've been sucking up sea water to cool the refrigerant with no problem other than the occasional jelly fish, I rather think switching to pure tank water would be, if anything, hugely less problematical and would not require any filtration at all.

Don't know the exact pump flow of your boat in gph, but with -what? - a 200-ish gallon tank in your SM, I can't imagine any problem whatsoever - it ain't gonna overheat. Also, the intake from our tanks is a couple of inches off the bottom - ain't gonna suck air. (Halekai didn't have a keel tank, but that's not germane to our Amels where it's no problemo.)

Keep it simple, forget valves and filters, and just go for it!

Cheers, Craig

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson wrote:

I like it too, Craig. What do you think about my idea of putting a filter in the line from the tank to the pump? A couple of valves would make it easy to change and with good water in the tank it shouldn't need changing often? Any idea how much water is moved by that pump? Would turn over the tank water pretty frequently, I think. You'd have to put the intake very low (is the tank flat or does it have a shape like the hull?) to keep it from sucking air when underway.

Kent

A perfect solution that I'll be switching to.

Craig Briggs, in FL while

s/v Sangaris SN#68 is in Didim, Turkey

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I have been using a Isotherm water cooled unit using my on-board water supply for the past 12 years.

NO Issues and eliminated salt water pump issues.

We filter water into the tank and have a filter on drinking water.

I taped into the water fill pipe for return taped into foot pump for pickup

Stargazer Amel sharki 135




Go Sailing

Gene C Carter
PO Box 895
Blaine WA 98231
Cell (360) 815-5388

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From: Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo.com>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Refrigeration Cooling



Tha is again for your thoughts, Craig. Right now I have air cooled fridges. When I'm ready to set sail again I'm going to do this mod, add some solar panels and a wind generator. Already about half way through the transition to all LEDs.
Where are you and Katherine now?
Kent
SM 2;3
Kristy

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On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:39 PM, "sv Sangaris" sangaris@aol.com> wrote:

Hi Kent,

Well, if you've been sucking up sea water to cool the refrigerant with no problem other than the occasional jelly fish, I rather think switching to pure tank water would be, if anything, hugely less problematical and would not require any filtration at all.

Don't know the exact pump flow of your boat in gph, but with -what? - a 200-ish gallon tank in your SM, I can't imagine any problem whatsoever - it ain't gonna overheat. Also, the intake from our tanks is a couple of inches off the bottom - ain't gonna suck air. (Halekai didn't have a keel tank, but that's not germane to our Amels where it's no problemo.)

Keep it simple, forget valves and filters, and just go for it!

Cheers, Craig

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson wrote:

I like it too, Craig. What do you think about my idea of putting a filter in the line from the tank to the pump? A couple of valves would make it easy to change and with good water in the tank it shouldn't need changing often? Any idea how much water is moved by that pump? Would turn over the tank water pretty frequently, I think. You'd have to put the intake very low (is the tank flat or does it have a shape like the hull?) to keep it from sucking air when underway.
Kent

A perfect solution that I'll be switching to.

Craig Briggs, in FL while
s/v Sangaris SN#68 is in Didim, Turkey

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Hi Kent,

Well, if you've been sucking up sea water to cool the refrigerant with no problem other than the occasional jelly fish, I rather think switching to pure tank water would be, if anything, hugely less problematical and would not require any filtration at all.

Don't know the exact pump flow of your boat in gph, but with -what? - a 200-ish gallon tank in your SM, I can't imagine any problem whatsoever - it ain't gonna overheat. Also, the intake from our tanks is a couple of inches off the bottom - ain't gonna suck air. (Halekai didn't have a keel tank, but that's not germane to our Amels where it's no problemo.)

Keep it simple, forget valves and filters, and just go for it!

Cheers, Craig

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson wrote:

I like it too, Craig. What do you think about my idea of putting a filter in the line from the tank to the pump? A couple of valves would make it easy to change and with good water in the tank it shouldn't need changing often? Any idea how much water is moved by that pump? Would turn over the tank water pretty frequently, I think. You'd have to put the intake very low (is the tank flat or does it have a shape like the hull?) to keep it from sucking air when underway.
Kent

A perfect solution that I'll be switching to.

Craig Briggs, in FL while
s/v Sangaris SN#68 is in Didim, Turkey

I like it too, Craig. What do you think about my idea of putting a filter in the line from the tank to the pump? A couple of valves would make it easy to change and with good water in the tank it shouldn't need changing often? Any idea how much water is moved by that pump? Would turn over the tank water pretty frequently, I think. You'd have to put the intake very low (is the tank flat or does it have a shape like the hull?) to keep it from sucking air when underway.
Kent

A perfect solution that I'll be switching to.

Craig Briggs, in FL while
s/v Sangaris SN#68 is in Didim, Turkey

Hello,

I am considering a Amel Euros 41. As an older Amel can any group members provide insight onto the boats possible trouble spots? Are there any particular questions I should ask outside of the typical old boat questions(engine, rig, sails, ect)?

Thank you.

Hi Kent,
What difference do you see between the cooling gas flow of fresh water and cool the gas flow in this one freshwater???
Any.
Only a pump to circulate the water because the gas is pushing him by the compressor in both cases!
The keel cooler has no contact with sea water, it just needs to be immersed in the fresh water tank.
I added a ground wire as that set on the water heater.
Regards
about an eventual leak?? same scenario, gas to water or water to gas!

De : Kent Robertson mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com>
À : "mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.commailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Lundi 28 janvier 2013 20h08
Objet : Re: [Amel] Re: Power generators


Hi again, Jean,
After reading about the "keel cooler" I have a couple of questions. Are you concerned at all about leakage of the exchanger into your fresh water tank? Are both fridge/freezer units attached to the same exchanger? How much room does the exchanger take up in the tank (ie how much volume do you lose by doing this?) I've not gotten into my tankage system yet...how difficult is it to mount the exchanger in the tank?
Thanks again, this looks like a great idea.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

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From: jean Paillardon mailto:jean.paillardon%40yahoo.fr>
To: "mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Power generators


Hi Kent
even easier for the fridge, model keel cool and put the exchanger directly into the freshwater tank .... same system, pumps less!!
NO NOISE
Regards
S/V Too much SM 366

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Envoyé le : Lundi 28 janvier 2013 1h30
Objet : Re: [Amel] Re: Power generators


Very nice, Ann-Sofie. Another question...Did raising the standing height in the cockpit require that the boom could not be pulled down as far? Did you have to recut the main sail? If the boom can no longer be brought down to a position perpendicular to the main, does the mainsail furl smoothly?
On Kristy (SM243) I have to ease the main a bit to open or stow the dodger extension that covers the cockpit. I would like to raise the headroom in my cockpit but am not sure there is room below the boom.

I am impressed with the efficiency of the water-cooled and reinsulated fridges. That looks like a modification worth doing.

How do you adjust your autopilot in different conditions to make it more efficient? That's something I never considered.

I LOVE this forum! Even with 20K+ nm under my keel I still feel like a rank beginner with an enormous amount to learn. Thais again to all for sharing!
Kent
SM243
Kristy

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On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg mailto:kanalmamman%40hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi Danny
If you check the album Lady Annila, you will find some pictures of our fixed roof over the cockpit.
To protect us from wind, rain and chilly weather we have a zipper going around the whole roof that we connect 10 panels to, with big windows. If we have all of them closed we are very well protected from the weather. We can take all or some of the panels down. It is free of choice.

The roof is constructed so that you can stand up and navigate and beeing able to see over the cockpit.

The inside hasn't got the final finish yet. But we have mounted a LED tape on the sieling that we adjust with a dimmer.

Regards
Annsofie,
Lady Annila, SM 233

Skickat från min iPad

27 jan 2013 kl. 04:00 skrev "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS" mailto:simms%40xtra.co.nz>:

Hi Ann, would be interested to see photos of your hard top.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Currently home port Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Ann-Sofie Svanberg mailto:kanalmamman%40hotmail.com>
To: "mailto:mailto:amelyachtowners%2540yahoogroups.comamelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2013 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Power generators


Hi
We have changed our bimini to a fixed roof over the cockpit. On that roof we have mounted 24v solar panel 460 W. Our battery bank includes 8 golfcart batteries providing 520 Ah.
We have changed all lamps to LED, we have changed the compressors to fridge/freeze to fresh water cooling and changed the insulation on them aswell. Which was of big importans for the overall consumption profile

During day time (sailing) we are usually power neutral. Meaning we only have to start the diesel generator for washing or making water.

Our plans is to install a wind generator for additional power during night and cloudy days.

We think that it is better to use the diesel for making speed than making power. So for us, yes it is worth it.

Regards
Ann-Sofi & Jonas
Lady Annila, SM 232

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26 jan 2013 kl. 02:47 skrev "sharki41" mailto:hannamj%40juno.com>:

We are intending to do extensive cruising. Staying out of marina's, and primarily living "On the Hook". We have AGM batteries. Filling the battery bank to 80-85% with a genset or hi capacity engine driven alternator is fairly efficient. The last part of the charge up to 100% is not efficient. (Could be many hrs of genset operation at low load to charge up to 100%). For this reasion we will probably install solar panels. AGM's in particular need to be periodically charged to 100% . Also, ask your battery manufacturer what voltage their particular batteries should be charged at. Charging, no matter what the source, at too low a voltage is inefficient, and at too high a voltage is damaging.
Thank You All for the wonderful Amel information. We loved the Joel Potter movie last night.
Fair Winds,
Mark and Joanna
S/V : MARGUERITE
SHARKI # 49

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, Attilio Su Yahoo wrote:

What my friend Paolo Liberati says is: use all possible system to have power. I.e. it is not a matter of cost benefit balance, when you are on passage, it is a matter of power needs in case of gen set failure. Solar panels never fail, and also windgen. I have sol pan plus wind gen and up to now (in the Med anyhow) now need of diesel genset. Craig with a Santorin and genset says that if you are not too power hungry (led lights etc) you can more safely survive without genset, or with a cheap portable Honda genset for emergencies only and solar panel - at least 2 x 90W - and one wind gen on top of mizzen mast, In total about 1500 euros
Ciao!
Attilio e Maria Amel Santorin #84 Sisila


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Il giorno 25/gen/2013, alle ore 15:31, Alessandro Gennai ha scritto:

Hi firends,
I need your opinion concerning power generator (solar panels , wind generator, water generator) on amel supermaramu 2k; as we know she is a power consuming boat but it is worth to spend money for this kind power generator when we have to use generator for water maker, washer machine and more? In case which of these kind of power generators are more suitable for this boat? One story: during ocean passage I had to turn on generator 3h x2/day, a friend of mine with 2 panels and 1 wind generator has to turn on it 2h x2/day....is it worth????
Thanks for your help
Alessandro
GRAND CRU
amel supermaramu 2k #443
Martinica

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