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Re: Hydranet sails

Dave_Benjamin
 

That was a few years ago when I wrote that post. Customer sold the boat last year but feedback was quite positive. That sail will be good for quite some time.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., svperegrinus wrote:

Hello,

And what has been your experience with the carbon/technora sails?

Best,



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Dave_Benjamin" wrote:

Please note that Dimension Polyant manufactures two types of Hydranet cloth. One is a crosscut and the other is radial.

The crosscut has not held up well so not too many sailmakers will recommend it.

The radial cloth is excellent, however quite expensive.

We are building sails for a Catana catamaran right now using carbon/technora load path membrane which is more economical.

International demand for Hydranet is so low that Dimension Polyant now only manufactures when they have an order.


Re: [Amel] Standing Rigging Tension

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi all the stays need to be very tight. Using a wood hammer handle tap each stay if it has a sharp ring its good if "flat" it is not. When going to the wind the lee stays must not go slack.
When adjusting be sure to lay on deck and look up the mast to be sure you are keeping it in column/ straight.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:50, "LaFrance" <pflafrance@...> wrote:

Does anyone know the rigging tension required for the SM model.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362
Currently in St Marteen



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Standing Rigging Tension

LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Does anyone know the rigging tension required for the SM model.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362
Currently in St Marteen


Re: Hydranet sails

svperegrinus <no_reply@...>
 

Hello,

And what has been your experience with the carbon/technora sails?

Best,

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Dave_Benjamin" wrote:

Please note that Dimension Polyant manufactures two types of Hydranet cloth. One is a crosscut and the other is radial.

The crosscut has not held up well so not too many sailmakers will recommend it.

The radial cloth is excellent, however quite expensive.

We are building sails for a Catana catamaran right now using carbon/technora load path membrane which is more economical.

International demand for Hydranet is so low that Dimension Polyant now only manufactures when they have an order.


Re: [Amel] Re: Yanmar 75hp plus ZF30M with shaft alternator on a Maramu

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Dear John, I emailed Brunton to enquire about this issue, their reply is below. I responded with  further queries and he responded that every Amel since 1999 had been fitted with the auto prop and there had been no issues of clutch plate wearing. I did believe there may be a problem but he has reassured me.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
 
Dear Mr Simms,
The method to feather the propeller is exactly as you describe: leave the gearbox in forward gear.
There is no need to fit a shaft brake on your boat.
Regards
Toby Ramsay
Bruntons Propellers Ltd


From: jjjk12s <jjjk12s@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013 10:40 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Yanmar 75hp plus ZF30M with shaft alternator on a Maramu

 
Richard,

Thanks. As I understand it these smaller ZF mechanical boxes can be freewheeled or left in reverse to lock the shaft. They should not be left in forward or the clutch plates wear out. Maybe anyone can correct me if I am wrong.

John, Maramu #91 Popeye

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 wrote:

Not Not sure about the bracket holes but you must be sure that that transmission will survive freewheeling to run the alternator off the transmission shaft.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Feb 6, 2013, at 23:47, "jjjk12s" wrote:

Is there anyone with a ZF30M gearbox who happens to know if there are bolt holes to mount a shaft alternator bracket like those present on the ZF25M (Hurth 250)? The Yanmar 75hp can be bought standard with the ZF30M rather than the ZF25M. I am replacing a Perkins M60/ZF25M.

John, Maramu #91 Popeye



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Re: [Amel] Inner forestay drawing

Alan Leslie
 

There seem to be a lot of Super Maramus out there with inner forestays.

DO we assume that they are all as per the JFP modification ? ie just lashed to the cleat with no below deck support.

Seems to me ANY inner forestay needs a direct attachment to the stem below decks, otherwise it could pull the deck apart.

Anybody got a Super Maramu with an inner forestay that's done properly ?
AND photos of how it was done ?

I'm buying a Super Maramu that has an inner forestay...but if its not done properly, this will need to be rectified.

Cheers
Alan
SY DIVA

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Joel F Potter" wrote:

Uh Oh.

Eric, the JFP on that drawing is me. Several months after I sent that to
you, I got reamed, but good, by Jacques Carteau. He found out I was
encouraging this modification and proceeded to inform me that:



1. The foredeck cleat was never designed with any vertical tension loads
in mind, only horizontal shearing loads.

2. None of the plywood in the forepeak, on the horizontal plane, is
designed to be structural in any way other than a slight amount of
stiffening to the hull skins in this area. They are designed primarily as
compartmentalizing components, not structural ones.

3. To be done properly, the tension load from the inner forestay would
need to be carried directly into the stem area and a substantial stainless
steel structural member would need to be mounted inside the stem with an
equally substantial backing plate on the outside of the stemhead.

4. DON'T DO THIS MOD AS DRAWN!!! If the mast pumps, even slightly as it
can when falling off a way or stuffing the bow into a big wave, it will
overload everything this mistake is attached to. Eventually it can cause
severe damage to the foredeck and the hull/deck union.

5. Jacques Carteau went on to imply that I didn't know who my parents
were and suggested I do some things that are anatomically impossible.
Jacques Carteau, as most of us know, was the eyes of Captain Amel and
actually was the designer of a great many parts of the boat, based on input
from the Captain.



Eric, I neglected to remember to tell you this was a bone head idea, and I
apologize. It was based on a modification that one of my customers had done.
Because he was, really and truly, a rocket scientist that worked for
Lockheed, I thought he could be trusted. Nope. My ears are still ringing
from Carteau's reprimand.



I was and am quite embarrassed by this.



Please, don't do this!



All the best,

Joel



Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: jfpottercys@...

www.yachtworld.com/jfpottercys



From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Sailorman
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Inner forestay drawing





I received this from Amel years ago.

It is also posted in Kimberlite Photo File.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

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Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: [Amel] New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

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Re: Euros mainsheet track

Dave_Benjamin
 

Ullar,

It was a combination of factors. The original track did not appear to be through bolted. I suspect there is a strip of steel that was basically embedded, and then holes drilled and tapped to accept the screws for the original Goiot track. There was no sign of any problem with the track. After consulting with a few riggers who had seen similar installations, we decided to mount the new track on top of the existing.

Here is a link to a photo of the track right after it was installed. We used Lanocote on the machine screws to prevent dissimilar metal corrosion. That's the orange colored goop you see in the photo around the screws.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/105731786/amel_track.JPG

The beauty of this approach is we were able to use off the shelf Harken hardware that is both robust and readily available.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "ullaroo" wrote:

Hi Dave,

That sounds interesting. Why did you keep the original track below the new one? Was Goiot track difficult to remove or was it something else that brought you to that solution?

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Dave_Benjamin" wrote:

Ullar,

We have an older Amel also, a 1979 Maramu. We fitted a Harken Big Boat track to our boat. The original Goiot track was substantial enough that we could drill and tap mounting holes for the Harken track.


Re: Euros mainsheet track

ullaroo
 

Hi Jose,

Nice to talk to fellow Euros owner. I guess there is no easy solution then. It would have been nice just to replace few parts and have it working. Still, a bit afraid of moving track to cabin top though. It wasn't designed with that in mind perhaps. I'll wait for snow to melt away and start to take some measurements then.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Jose_Luis" wrote:

Hi Ullar,

I have an Amel 41 at the Spanish Mediterranean coast.

I have not been able to find traveler or stoppers that match the track T profile (as it is not exactly a T). So I keep them dearly. That means that you would need to replace the track as well, unless you can get the traveler and stoppers specially made. The curve shape is not helping either.

In fact, If I would spend money on it. I would prefer to setup another track in front of the windscreens (afront), on top of the main cabin. This would also clear the cockpit and will allow you to put canvas for summer sailing.

But I have not made calculations as if the boom (or the cabin top) would stand the stress of this new position.
There is also the compromise of the opening windscreen windows, that will require also some solution.

Regards
JL

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "ullaroo" wrote:

Hello everybody,
My wife Ellen and I are fresh owners of an old Amel. We bought our Euros 41 no 250 last summer and sailed it for a couple of months on Baltic before wintering it on shore in Estonia. PO has kept the boat in good condition so we didn't have no problems what so ever with it during our time on water. However, being keen sailors and having plans to go further away we see some room for improvements. Even on such an old boat many things are relatively easy to modernise, specially with help of the knowledge gathered on inernet forums like this one. Then again, answers for some questions are more difficult to come by. And here it comes why I decided to trouble you with my request for information. After hauling mainsheet car from side to side by hand for a month it was clear to me that I have to do something to arrange that business in more agreeable way. So, what are my options? Should I get rid of all of it and replace with a new sytem with towed car? Or is there a possibility to keep the track and use new towable car and other hardware with it? What have others done?
Regards,
Ullar


Re: Euros mainsheet track

ullaroo
 

Hi Dave,

That sounds interesting. Why did you keep the original track below the new one? Was Goiot track difficult to remove or was it something else that brought you to that solution?

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Dave_Benjamin" wrote:

Ullar,

We have an older Amel also, a 1979 Maramu. We fitted a Harken Big Boat track to our boat. The original Goiot track was substantial enough that we could drill and tap mounting holes for the Harken track.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "ullaroo" wrote:

Hello everybody,
My wife Ellen and I are fresh owners of an old Amel. We bought our Euros 41 no 250 last summer and sailed it for a couple of months on Baltic before wintering it on shore in Estonia. PO has kept the boat in good condition so we didn't have no problems what so ever with it during our time on water. However, being keen sailors and having plans to go further away we see some room for improvements. Even on such an old boat many things are relatively easy to modernise, specially with help of the knowledge gathered on inernet forums like this one. Then again, answers for some questions are more difficult to come by. And here it comes why I decided to trouble you with my request for information. After hauling mainsheet car from side to side by hand for a month it was clear to me that I have to do something to arrange that business in more agreeable way. So, what are my options? Should I get rid of all of it and replace with a new sytem with towed car? Or is there a possibility to keep the track and use new towable car and other hardware with it? What have others done?
Regards,
Ullar


Re: Euros mainsheet track

Jose_Luis <lji0041@...>
 

Hi Ullar,

I have an Amel 41 at the Spanish Mediterranean coast.

I have not been able to find traveler or stoppers that match the track T profile (as it is not exactly a T). So I keep them dearly. That means that you would need to replace the track as well, unless you can get the traveler and stoppers specially made. The curve shape is not helping either.

In fact, If I would spend money on it. I would prefer to setup another track in front of the windscreens (afront), on top of the main cabin. This would also clear the cockpit and will allow you to put canvas for summer sailing.

But I have not made calculations as if the boom (or the cabin top) would stand the stress of this new position.
There is also the compromise of the opening windscreen windows, that will require also some solution.

Regards
JL

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "ullaroo" wrote:

Hello everybody,
My wife Ellen and I are fresh owners of an old Amel. We bought our Euros 41 no 250 last summer and sailed it for a couple of months on Baltic before wintering it on shore in Estonia. PO has kept the boat in good condition so we didn't have no problems what so ever with it during our time on water. However, being keen sailors and having plans to go further away we see some room for improvements. Even on such an old boat many things are relatively easy to modernise, specially with help of the knowledge gathered on inernet forums like this one. Then again, answers for some questions are more difficult to come by. And here it comes why I decided to trouble you with my request for information. After hauling mainsheet car from side to side by hand for a month it was clear to me that I have to do something to arrange that business in more agreeable way. So, what are my options? Should I get rid of all of it and replace with a new sytem with towed car? Or is there a possibility to keep the track and use new towable car and other hardware with it? What have others done?
Regards,
Ullar


Re: Yanmar 75hp plus ZF30M with shaft alternator on a Maramu

jjjk12s <jjjk12s@...>
 

Richard,

Thanks. As I understand it these smaller ZF mechanical boxes can be freewheeled or left in reverse to lock the shaft. They should not be left in forward or the clutch plates wear out. Maybe anyone can correct me if I am wrong.

John, Maramu #91 Popeye

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Richard03801 wrote:

Not Not sure about the bracket holes but you must be sure that that transmission will survive freewheeling to run the alternator off the transmission shaft.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Feb 6, 2013, at 23:47, "jjjk12s" wrote:

Is there anyone with a ZF30M gearbox who happens to know if there are bolt holes to mount a shaft alternator bracket like those present on the ZF25M (Hurth 250)? The Yanmar 75hp can be bought standard with the ZF30M rather than the ZF25M. I am replacing a Perkins M60/ZF25M.

John, Maramu #91 Popeye





Re: [Amel] Curtain Sizes for SM2000

ldesalvo@...
 

Hi Brian, hope all is well with you and Delos.
The measurements for the curtains are as follows:
Rear state room, Four pieces 27” x 15” tall
One rear hatch cover 21” x 22.5” tall
Cockpit windows 19” wide x 11.5” tall, and 14” wide x 21” tall
Main salon, four pieces 34” wide x 13.5”tall
V Birth, two pieces 33” wide x 10.5” tall
Hatch cover in V birth, 24” side to side and 27” front to back.
Hope this helps, if you have time drop us an email at
“ldesalvoatbigplanet.com”

Jim and Linda DeSalvo, s/v Liebling
Located in Zihuatanejo, Mexico
SM#207

---- Original Message ----
From: briantrautman@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Curtain Sizes for SM2000
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:06:18 -0000

I'm wondering if anyone has the dimensions of the interior curtains
for a Super Maramu (Forward Cabin, Salon, and Aft Cabin). I want to
make new ones but unfortunately neglected to take measurements before
I put her away last season.

Thanks!
Brian Trautman
S&#92;V Delos SM#303


Re: [Amel] Geonav for spare parts and Navionics charts.

gegcarter <gegcarter@...>
 

where in the world are you? sorry but I don't know where Cottonbay is. Basically the cost of postage and a little amount that I could give as donation to the RNLI would be great. Do you use Paypal?
Anne on Guma

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "jlm@..." wrote:

Thank'you very much !
YES I am interested in your chart,
What would be the cost ?
Merci

JL MERTZ
on CottonBay
SM 316
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Le 07/02/2013 12:54, gegcarter a écrit :

Our Geonav (on supermaramu 2000) does not work anymore. We hate
putting things in bins, does anyone need spares? The Geonav can be
collected in London. But if someone just needs navionics charts for
the Geonav we could send them (they all are dated 1987 to 1992)Aegean,
Medit. east, Med west, Med center,Med south, cote d'azur,
greece,atlantic north east,indian basin,tirreno north,Caribbean.And
one box marked Digilog.



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Re: [Amel] Geonav for spare parts and Navionics charts.

gegcarter <gegcarter@...>
 

thank you!!

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Germain Jean-Pierre wrote:

I have a suggestion: place it in the for sale section here…

http://www.ybw.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?13-Practical-Boat-Owner-s-Reader-to-Reader

Large forum of UK based raggies and wave makers :-)

Jean-Pierre



On 7 Feb 2013, at 12:54, gegcarter wrote:

Our Geonav (on supermaramu 2000) does not work anymore. We hate putting things in bins, does anyone need spares? The Geonav can be collected in London. But if someone just needs navionics charts for the Geonav we could send them (they all are dated 1987 to 1992)Aegean, Medit. east, Med west, Med center,Med south, cote d'azur, greece,atlantic north east,indian basin,tirreno north,Caribbean.And one box marked Digilog.




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Re: [Amel] Yanmar 75hp plus ZF30M with shaft alternator on a Maramu

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Not Not sure about the bracket holes but you must be sure that that transmission will survive freewheeling to run the alternator off the transmission shaft.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Feb 6, 2013, at 23:47, "jjjk12s" <jjjk12s@...> wrote:

Is there anyone with a ZF30M gearbox who happens to know if there are bolt holes to mount a shaft alternator bracket like those present on the ZF25M (Hurth 250)? The Yanmar 75hp can be bought standard with the ZF30M rather than the ZF25M. I am replacing a Perkins M60/ZF25M.

John, Maramu #91 Popeye



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Re: [Amel] Geonav for spare parts and Navionics charts.

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Thank'you very much !
YES I am interested in your chart,
What would be the cost ?
Merci

JL MERTZ
on CottonBay
SM 316
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Le 07/02/2013 12:54, gegcarter a écrit :

Our Geonav (on supermaramu 2000) does not work anymore. We hate
putting things in bins, does anyone need spares? The Geonav can be
collected in London. But if someone just needs navionics charts for
the Geonav we could send them (they all are dated 1987 to 1992)Aegean,
Medit. east, Med west, Med center,Med south, cote d'azur,
greece,atlantic north east,indian basin,tirreno north,Caribbean.And
one box marked Digilog.


Amiot switch panel bulbs

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

Hello everyone - some of the blue lights on my Amel 54 24V switch panel have blown. These are just to illuminate the switches at night. Unlike  the red lights indicating a circuit is switched on which are individually mounted and can be changed one by one, the blue lights are soldered on to two circuit boards.


I've changed one of these circuit boards with a new one I ordered up directly from Amel, but they charged a ludicrous price of over 100 euros. Does anyone know where I can get the same board at a sensible price? The one I took out was manufactured by Amiot but when I Google them all I get is an address in St. Malo, France - no stockists, suppliers or replacement/alternative suggestions. I know Beneteau use the same brand on their switch panels, but no luck there either.

Can anyone suggest anything ?


Thanks, Tony Robinson - Catriona R, Amel 54 no 102


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Re: [Amel] Geonav for spare parts and Navionics charts.

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

I have a suggestion: place it in the for sale section here

http://www.ybw.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?13-Practical-Boat-Owner-s-Reader-to-Reader

Large forum of UK based raggies and wave makers :-)

Jean-Pierre

On 7 Feb 2013, at 12:54, gegcarter wrote:

Our Geonav (on supermaramu 2000) does not work anymore. We hate putting things in bins, does anyone need spares? The Geonav can be collected in London. But if someone just needs navionics charts for the Geonav we could send them (they all are dated 1987 to 1992)Aegean, Medit. east, Med west, Med center,Med south, cote d'azur, greece,atlantic north east,indian basin,tirreno north,Caribbean.And one box marked Digilog.


Geonav for spare parts and Navionics charts.

gegcarter <gegcarter@...>
 

Our Geonav (on supermaramu 2000) does not work anymore. We hate putting things in bins, does anyone need spares? The Geonav can be collected in London. But if someone just needs navionics charts for the Geonav we could send them (they all are dated 1987 to 1992)Aegean, Medit. east, Med west, Med center,Med south, cote d'azur, greece,atlantic north east,indian basin,tirreno north,Caribbean.And one box marked Digilog.


Yanmar 75hp plus ZF30M with shaft alternator on a Maramu

jjjk12s <jjjk12s@...>
 

Is there anyone with a ZF30M gearbox who happens to know if there are bolt holes to mount a shaft alternator bracket like those present on the ZF25M (Hurth 250)? The Yanmar 75hp can be bought standard with the ZF30M rather than the ZF25M. I am replacing a Perkins M60/ZF25M.

John, Maramu #91 Popeye