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Re: [Amel] Sharki for sale
Mark & Pauline Susman <mpsusman@...>
Hi Jorge
I am Mark and my Sharki Hull number 80 from 1983 is based in South Africa. I am just busy putting things together details, but have an inventory list and a couple of photos attached to send to you. Not sure of the price just yet, but let's take it from here. Where are you located? The trip from South Africa heading west in the Milk Run which is an easy sail. All the best Mark
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Re: SM Bow Thruster question.
jdernehl@ymail.com <jdernehl@...>
Thank you for the information. It seems that a hull number is definitely needed to facilitate this repair!
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Re: SM Bow Thruster question.
jdernehl@ymail.com <jdernehl@...>
I think I will be calling them first thing tomorrow. Thanks for the information!
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Re: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question.
jdernehl@ymail.com <jdernehl@...>
Pat,
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This weekend I am busy on Saturday. If you are available on Sunday I would love to help you out. If that is not good for you, then the following weekend I can clear my schedule to help. Just to make it clear, I am very willing to help you with the install. I am a Machinery Technician with the Coast Guard and have very good techinical knowledge...I really do appreciate this.
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Re: SM Bow Thruster question.
Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
Hi,
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The seals required for SM #387 Bow Thruster are: One 80 x 60 x 12 for the Tube to the hull One 42 x 30 x 7 for the propeller shaft on the thruster One foam seal for the inside Two foam seals for the outside The inside and outside foam seals are made of different material (it is difficult to tell the differences, but trust me, they are different. You should order all of the above from Amel...but, be sure to order a nylon prop hub and nylon prop bolts. The hub size varies from earlier and later model SM's...be sure to tell Amel your hull number and I would suggest you put your hull number in future postings. You will have to remove the prop and hub to change the prop-shaft seals. The nylon bolts stretch and should not be reused. The steel pin in the nylon hub will wear a larger hole in the hub after two years use, so replace it. Download BOW THRUSTER SERVICE by Gary Silver.pdf from "Files > Miscellaneous" on the Amel Owner Groups website for step-by-step procedures, or you can get to it by following this link. http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/oH02UaAO1rxlMWxPk9otIyRB_p7or1HHLZEwXI-h_24zSxQjpTaQtt2Vvad32cDU7vA6QinCwCQy2nGQjYRktiD4Zzw/Miscellaneous/BOW%20THRUSTER%20SERVICE%20by%20Gary%20Silver.pdf I hope this helps you. Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 Boat in Turkey, Crew in Houston
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jdernehl@..." <jdernehl@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question.
Patrick McAneny
Jason, My boat is at Duffy Creek Marina on the Sassafras about 20 minutes
from the C&D canal until it goes back in water mid April. I need to take my bow thruster out before it goes back in the water . I live on the Sassafras ten minutes from my boat and could take the thruster out anytime, this weekend or another at a later date. If you want to arrange to be there let me know when its convenient for you. If all goes well it should only take about a half hour. You can email me at sailw32@aol.com or call 1410 348 2388. SM Shenanigans Pat
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Re: SM Bow Thruster question.
Jderneh1,
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I will email you a detailed schematic of the bow thruster. I just recently purchased replacement parts for mine for a haul out. I ordered from Amel cusomter service. The complete set of seals was 47 euros. They arrived within 4 business days. Shipping was minimal since they are foam. Mark Cream Puff SM2K #275
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jdernehl@..." <jdernehl@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question.
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
H again. If there is water coming in there it is the lip seal under the foam seal that is leaking. The foam is a pad that the unit drop on. (it does help a bit by being compressed but the main seal is the lip seal) There a two other foam seals externally that compress when the thruster is fully lifted. They serve two purposes. 1) by being copmpressed they prevent twater surging up the tube when sailing in a seaway and putting excess pressure on the lip seal 2) they stop the unit rattling around when lifted. The lip seal is entered into a recess in the top of the fiberglass molding. If you have water coming in and want to deal with it before you lift out this is your target. When you lift out you can do the external foam seals and the seal on the propellor shaft. You can do the external foams in water too but it is a bit of messing around and I would try replacing the lip seal first. A tip. The lip seals have three mesurements, outside diameter, inside
diameter and depth. The depth can be 8mm, 10mm or 12mm. You will get the best result with the 12mm. If you want to go ahead with it let me know and I or somone else can give you details as to the process. It is not difficult.. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl From: "jdernehl@ymail..com" <jdernehl@ymail.com> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question. Thanks for the reply. I too am not sure if the seals are exactly the same. I did not specify however, the seal that is blown is the foam upper seal. I have heard people talking about using all sorts of foam products to put in there. But I do not want this to be a 6 month temp fix.. IS there a part number I can reference? I also wrote to Joel Potter asking for a price quote on repairs. This may be the only option...if I cannot get down there in time to effect repairs myself. --- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS wrote:
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Re: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question.
jdernehl@ymail.com <jdernehl@...>
Pat,
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I have a decent knowledge of the area, I was stationed In Baltimore for 5 years. Did plenty of work up and around there with fixed and floating aids. When I finaly get the boat up here I will keep it in the C and D. Anyways, I would love to visit and take a look at system. Could you send me a text at 817-584-6502 just so I have your contact info. This is better than what I was expecting. I checked out the files and photos section. While there is a lot of good information there, I find it tought to utilize it without being able to actually put my hands and eyes on the actual system. Jason
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Re: [Amel] Sharki for sale
Gomez, Jorge K <Jorge.K.Gomez@...>
Hi
Could you please send me more details? Txs Jorge From: fishtong1 [mailto:mpsusman@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:32 PM GMT Standard Time To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Amel] Sharki for sale Hi folks, if there is anyone out there looking to own a beautifully designed yacht, please mail me for further details. Cheers
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Re: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question.
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Welcome aboard to get photos and answers to your questions take some time and look at the history file on this web site. Their all there.
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Regards Richard Piller Cell 603 767 5330
On Mar 4, 2013, at 19:48, "jdernehl@ymail.com" <jdernehl@ymail.com> wrote:
So I am new owner of a '92 SM (PAO SAN). Anyways, the seal on the bow thruster is completely shot. Does anyone know of a state-side source for new material? Also, I am located in PA and the boat is in FL, so I cannot physically put my hands on this problem. Does anyone have detailed pictures of the bow thruster assembly? Or possibly the dimensions and specs of the seal needed? Or even better...are there any SM owners even remotely near the PA area who would be willing to let me see the bow thruster in person. I just need to see this thing to get a good idea of what I am working with. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question.
Patrick McAneny
My boat is out of the water and I will be replacing the seals sometime soon
.My boat is on the Sassafras River which is about one hour drive south from Wilmington Delaware. If that is not too far for you ,I would glad to show you the bow thruster and how you remove it from the boat to replace seals. The seals came be purchased at Philadelphia Ball and Roller Bearing Co., located in Wilm. ,Del. 1302 658-5121. I do not have the size of the seals here at home . SM Shenanigans Pat
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Re: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question.
jdernehl@ymail.com <jdernehl@...>
Thanks for the reply. I too am not sure if the seals are exactly the same. I did not specify however, the seal that is blown is the foam upper seal. I have heard people talking about using all sorts of foam products to put in there. But I do not want this to be a 6 month temp fix. IS there a part number I can reference?
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I also wrote to Joel Potter asking for a price quote on repairs. This may be the only option...if I cannot get down there in time to effect repairs myself.
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Re: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question.
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi there
There are a number of seals involved with the bow thruster. The good news is they are all standard available world wide from any seal and bearing supplier at very reasonable prices. My SM is 299. Not sure if you boat is identical or not. However if it is I can (as can any number of other owners) give you the seal sizes. I have found that when replaced and properly installed they are relatively trouble free. The seal at the top that seals around the main tube that goes up and down can be replaced with the boat in the water if nessesary. Some people have had difficulty separating this tube from the motor (which is needed to replace this top seal) I am fortunate in that I have not had that problem. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl From: "jdernehl@ymail.com" <jdernehl@ymail.com> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013 1:48 PM Subject: [Amel] SM Bow Thruster question. So I am new owner of a '92 SM (PAO SAN). Anyways, the seal on the bow thruster is completely shot. Does anyone know of a state-side source for new material? Also, I am located in PA and the boat is in FL, so I cannot physically put my hands on this problem. Does anyone have detailed pictures of the bow thruster assembly? Or possibly the dimensions and specs of the seal needed? Or even better....are there any SM owners even remotely near the PA area who would be willing to let me see the bow thruster in person. I just need to see this thing to get a good idea of what I am working with. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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SM Bow Thruster question.
jdernehl@ymail.com <jdernehl@...>
So I am new owner of a '92 SM (PAO SAN). Anyways, the seal on the bow thruster is completely shot. Does anyone know of a state-side source for new material? Also, I am located in PA and the boat is in FL, so I cannot physically put my hands on this problem. Does anyone have detailed pictures of the bow thruster assembly? Or possibly the dimensions and specs of the seal needed? Or even better...are there any SM owners even remotely near the PA area who would be willing to let me see the bow thruster in person. I just need to see this thing to get a good idea of what I am working with.
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Re: [Amel] Internet in the Caribbean
Duncan Hagemeyer
I just concluded a 7 week cruise from Antigua to Grenada. I ordered an
Iridium Sat Phone before the trip. It is the latest model, bell and whistles???, and it came with 300 minutes for 2 months. I could not be more disappointed. The connectivity even in fully exposed sky was terrible. The battery would be dead if left on all night.so don't wait up for a call from home. It sometimes took 10 minutes for the phone to sync up and register. If I can get my money back minus the minutes we used I will do so. I think your advice is good. I have a iPhone 4S and had it set up with Verizon to operate in the islands. It worked great with DigiCel. The cost was less than the $1.30 per minute on Satellite. If I were to be staying longer than a few months I would definitely go the local phone number Sim Card method. It would have been great to offer vendors and service people a local number. I like your idea for the Wi-Fi. I did find that at Marina du la Marin in Martinique they had a very fast and reliable Wi-Fi___33. 60 hours for EU40 if I recall correctly. In case of an extreme emergency, I have an ARC locator beacon that I would use in the passes when you lose local cell towers. (We got local cell service half way to Guadeloupe!) One thing I found; I could not get any response on 16 on several radio checks occasions. If I had been in an emergency I would be a Ship out of Luck. Maybe it was just the wrong time or wrong location, but I suspect that the VHF is going the way of the rotary dial phone. Hope this helps with your decision process. Duncan Hagemeyer Dreamtime II Currently in Grenada From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john martin Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:19 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel] Internet in the Caribbean If you want solid coverage all the time and all over, nothing beats a sat phone for calls and e-mail. Its expensive, but if you have to be in constant touch,it's the answer. Regardless, you shouldn't leave the dock without a quad, unlocked cell phone or blackberry. This unit can be used all over the world. They can be purchased on E-Bay or other places. Make sure it is a quad and its unlocked. By purchasing a sim card for the phone from the provider in the Country you are in, you will have a phone no. and can place local cheap calls and reasonable long distance ones. This is a real help if you are getting work done in the particular Country as the local workers always want to call you back, or you have to get in touch with them. We use digicel in a lot of islands. Sim cards are $20.00 including $10.00 in talk time. Top up cards are sold everywhere. You can buy a modem for your lap top for $30.00. Then you pay $40.00 a month for internet. Skype doesn't work that well all the time, but you get great internet even 3 or 5 miles off the island. Calls to the U.S. is .35 cents a minute and crystal clear. We stayed for a while in Los Roques off the coast of Venezuela, they had no wi-fi but they had cell phone coverage so we had internet and cell phone the whole time while at anchor. The carrier in Grenada didn't have a modem when we were there so we used the blackberry for internet and cell phone, using there service of course. Another big advantage of having a phone no. in the country you are in, is that if your family has an emergency they can just call you. I have found the WiRI wi -fi hot spot the best for getting wi-fi. Its simple to use. Just clamp it on your railing and plug it into your cigarette lighter. It makes the whole boat a hot spot, no need to plug anything into the computer. You will find most anchorages have someone that will sell you a signal as most other signals require a password now a days. All marinas have there own wi-fi, but again they charge if you are not staying there. The exception is Martinique. There phone service is two expensive and wi-fi is non existence I'm writing this from Bonaire while on a mooring, from my lap top via Digicel. Very reasonable. John "Moon Dog" SM 248
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Re: [Amel] Internet in the Caribbean
Hi John,
Let time I looked into Digicel was probably 3 yrs ago. That sounds pretty good now. Do they have service in the leewards too? Seems like I remember them only in the windwards. I should have guessed that you and Ruth would have a good solution. Hope you are both well. Steady as she goes. Kent SM 243 Kristy Currently Brunswick GA On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:18 PM, john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Internet in the Caribbean
john martin <symoondog@...>
If you want solid coverage all the time and all over, nothing beats a sat phone for calls and e-mail. Its expensive, but if you have to be in constant touch,it's the answer. Regardless, you shouldn't leave the dock without a quad, unlocked cell phone or blackberry. This unit can be used all over the world. They can be purchased on E-Bay or other places. Make sure it is a quad and its unlocked. By purchasing a sim card for the phone from the provider in the Country you are in, you will have a phone no. and can place local cheap calls and reasonable long distance ones. This is a real help if you are getting work done in the particular Country as the local workers always want to call you back, or you have to get in touch with them. We use digicel in a lot of islands. Sim cards are $20.00 including $10.00 in talk time. Top up cards are sold everywhere. You can buy a modem for your lap top for $30.00. Then you pay $40.00 a month for internet. Skype doesn't work that well all the time, but you get great internet even 3 or 5 miles off the island. Calls to the U.S. is .35 cents a minute and crystal clear. We stayed for a while in Los Roques off the coast of Venezuela, they had no wi-fi but they had cell phone coverage so we had internet and cell phone the whole time while at anchor. The carrier in Grenada didn't have a modem when we were there so we used the blackberry for internet and cell phone, using there service of course. Another big advantage of having a phone no. in the country you are in, is that if your family has an emergency they can just call you. I have found the WiRI wi -fi hot spot the best for getting wi-fi. Its simple to use. Just clamp it on your railing and plug it into your cigarette lighter. It makes the whole boat a hot spot, no need to plug anything into the computer. You will find most anchorages have someone that will sell you a signal as most other signals require a password now a days. All marinas have there own wi-fi, but again they charge if you are not staying there. The exception is Martinique. There phone service is two expensive and wi-fi is non existence I'm writing this from Bonaire while on a mooring, from my lap top via Digicel. Very reasonable. John "Moon Dog" SM 248
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Re: [Amel] Internet in the Caribbean
If you are going to be n one country for a while you may be able to get a reasonably priced SIM card. I've not been in one country lo g enough to make that work for me. Some folks have wifi boosters that allow them to pick up wifi from out in the harbour if you're anchored close to a town. If you're between islands you can get enough signal on many passages to get email and text messages, but the cost is outrageous unless you have a local provider. I haven't found a satisfactory solution in the five seasons I've been sailing the Caribbean.
I'm eagerly awaiting someone's simple solution. Kent SM243 Kristy On Mar 4, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@hotmail.com> wrote: Thanks Anne & John [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel] Internet in the Caribbean
Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
Thanks Anne & John
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I will,look at them but ifmthe cost still is as you say, they are expensive...... Regards /Annsofie Skickat från min iPad 4 mar 2013 kl. 12:58 skrev "Anne and John Hollamby" <annejohnholl@gmail.com>:
Hello Anne-Sophie, There is a company which claims to be the best for yacht crew, cruisers etc. Check out www.gymsim.com or Email salesatgymsim.com They do do sim cards which work almost anywhere in the world. One is a voice and data card and the other is data only. The voice and data card can be much more expensive but they recommended it to us to use on our iPad during a trip to Hong Kong,Australia and New Zealand saying that it was easier to activate than the data card. It costs € 1.49 per Mb for most of Europe but €12.99 per Mb for most Caribbean islands and Hong Kong and €16.99 for Australia and €20.99 per Mb for NZ. The data card for most of the Windies costs €14 per Mb.
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